Middle East Peace Plan (490)
SilverBirch: The administration of President Barack Obama has been stepping up pressure on the two sides to resume talks, with Clinton on Jan. 10 calling on Israelis and Palestinians to “act now.” U.S. envoys Dennis Ross and David Hale, who is the deputy to Middle East peace talks mediator George Mitchell, met with the sides last monthUnfortunately everyone knows Geo. Mitchell is in Israels pocket. So the prospects for a "Just and Honorable" solution are moot.
With all the attention on Egypt, I wouldn't be surprised if something slips under the radar over there. It would be an opportune time for someone to grab for another piece.
Something needs to happen to try to bring attention and focus back to the Israel/Palistine conflict.
Fred
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Paldi5: With all the attention on Egypt, I wouldn't be surprised if something slips under the radar over there. It would be an opportune time for someone to grab for another piece.
Something needs to happen to try to bring attention and focus back to the Israel/Palistine conflict.
Fred
I think the situation in Israel is at least "one" of the focus points in the Egyptian revolt. The rank and file Egyptian does not like the Peace accord between them and Israel. And they see the Palestinian suffering as partly their fault by the general perception that they are Israels "patsy". Speaking of Patsy,. Where is Pat? Stays up till 4 then sleeps till 2? Something needs to happen to try to bring attention and focus back to the Israel/Palistine conflict.
Fred
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SilverBirch: I think the situation in Israel is at least "one" of the focus points in the Egyptian revolt. The rank and file Egyptian does not like the Peace accord between them and Israel. And they see the Palestinian suffering as partly their fault by the general perception that they are Israels "patsy". Speaking of Patsy,.
Your guess or have you a shred of proof to back this up with?
SilverBirch: Where is Pat? Stays up till 4 then sleeps till 2?
We wonder about you too but don't feel the need to name call and post all point bulletins on where you are when not wasting our time here.
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SilverBirch: I think the situation in Israel is at least "one" of the focus points in the Egyptian revolt. The rank and file Egyptian does not like the Peace accord between them and Israel. And they see the Palestinian suffering as partly their fault by the general perception that they are Israels "patsy". Speaking of Patsy,. Where is Pat? Stays up till 4 then sleeps till 2?
Just watching you make a fool of yourself as normal.
When you have a valid point or actually answer a question put to you then I might pay a bit of attention to what you say.
But, until you do I will do as all the rest of the folk do. Enjoy laughing at your one sided and totally biased propaganda.
Enjoy yourself S B 'cos I like a lot of folk have never had so much fun with a bigot .....
Do have fun S B as always JMO
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SilverBirch: I think the situation in Israel is at least "one" of the focus points in the Egyptian revolt. The rank and file Egyptian does not like the Peace accord between them and Israel. And they see the Palestinian suffering as partly their fault by the general perception that they are Israels "patsy". Speaking of Patsy,. Where is Pat? Stays up till 4 then sleeps till 2?
You of course have irrefutable "Proof" of that as usual? 
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Conrad73: You of course have irrefutable "Proof" of that as usual?
Conrad. This is a thread about peace and so, jokes like the above have no place here.
If you weren't joking then possibly you might wish to keep your comments and questions in the realm of reality.
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Albertaghost: Conrad. This is a thread about peace...
How's the Peace website going? Google OK it?
Do you have an intro, synopsis, or invitation for folks to come have a look?
I'm off to work. See you all later!
Fred
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Albertaghost: Conrad. This is a thread about peace and so, jokes like the above have no place here.
If you weren't joking then possibly you might wish to keep your comments and questions in the realm of reality.
If you weren't joking then possibly you might wish to keep your comments and questions in the realm of reality.
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Albertaghost: Conrad. This is a thread about peace and so, jokes like the above have no place here.
If you weren't joking then possibly you might wish to keep your comments and questions in the realm of reality.
I'd still like to see the Proof that the Unrest in Egypt is about Israel!If you weren't joking then possibly you might wish to keep your comments and questions in the realm of reality.
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Conrad73: I'd still like to see the Proof that the Unrest in Egypt is about Israel!
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I know, "Good cop bad cop" thing. But if you want to talk Just and Honorable/Lasting Peace Lets start with the issues.
Settlements. I you think having IDF outposts littered in amongst the Palestine nation is "OK" then we're not going to get anywhere.
Jerusalem . I think we spoke to the "international city of worship" . I would like to see shared sovereignty. Or UN.
With capitals for each.
Gaza . Hamas must erase they "destruction" clause. And of course there's the logistical dilemma but if Hamas doesn't want to play by the rules, so be it.
Right of return.
Water Rights.
Settlements. I you think having IDF outposts littered in amongst the Palestine nation is "OK" then we're not going to get anywhere.
Jerusalem . I think we spoke to the "international city of worship" . I would like to see shared sovereignty. Or UN.
With capitals for each.
Gaza . Hamas must erase they "destruction" clause. And of course there's the logistical dilemma but if Hamas doesn't want to play by the rules, so be it.
Right of return.
Water Rights.
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Conrad73: I'd still like to see the Proof that the Unrest in Egypt is about Israel!
I said, keep your expectations in the realm of reality. You ain't gonna git no proof boy.
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Albertaghost: I said, keep your expectations in the realm of reality. You ain't gonna git no proof boy.
Just once!------ This thread is Locked ------
Paldi5: How's the Peace website going? Google OK it?
Nothing yet but I did register with McAfee after embedding the verification file in the root directory. They will look at it shortly.
"Privately owned and openly registered domain. If any concerns please contact the webmaster at Skinworld.ca, theglobalist.ca or leave a message here.
Thanks.
Drew"
Paldi5: Do you have an intro, synopsis, or invitation for folks to come have a look?
Yes. I posted it here on this very thread.
Paldi5: I'm off to work. See you all later!
Fred
Fred
Hurry back!
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The Sinai Gas Blast: Another Reason for Israeli Anxiety Over Egypt
Time.com
By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 2 hrs 8 mins ago
The explosion that ripped through a natural gas pipeline in the northern Sinai Desert on Saturday did more than cut off the flow of Egyptian fuel to Israel and Jordan. It also deepened Israeli fears about the changes underway in a powerful neighbor rendered at least neutral over the last 30 years by a peace treaty that might not survive the change in government.
The massive fireball at a monitoring station outside the Egyptian city Al-Arish could be seen from rooftops in the Gaza Strip, 45 miles to the east. Though initial reports blamed a leak, Israeli intelligence judged it sabotage. Local press reports mentioned a detonation device placed inside a terminal.
Likely suspects would have to include members of the peninsula's Bedouin tribes, traditional nomads who are unhappy with Egypt's central government and are alleged to have expressed their discontent by trying to sabotage the pipeline. But the dreaded working assumption places the blame on Islamist militants, rejectionists who control Gaza - and who Israel worries will take power in Cairo if President Hosni Mubarak leaves behind a vacuum.
Word that the Muslim Brotherhood on Sunday joined negotiations over the transition brought little comfort to the Jewish state. Though by most accounts it enjoys the support of perhaps a third of Egyptians, the Brotherhood, which preaches both political Islam and nonviolence, was by far the most organized political opposition party under Mubarak's regime. The young people who have led the massive demonstrations across Egypt appear to be organized only through their desire to see change.
"The worst case scenario is that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over," says former Israeli military chief Shaul Mofaz, now chair of the Knesset committee on foreign affairs and defense. "And they're against a peace process with Israel."
Not very encouraging prospects!
Definitely not a Climate for Negotiations!
Looks more like a Ramp-Up to another '67!
Time.com
By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 2 hrs 8 mins ago
The explosion that ripped through a natural gas pipeline in the northern Sinai Desert on Saturday did more than cut off the flow of Egyptian fuel to Israel and Jordan. It also deepened Israeli fears about the changes underway in a powerful neighbor rendered at least neutral over the last 30 years by a peace treaty that might not survive the change in government.
The massive fireball at a monitoring station outside the Egyptian city Al-Arish could be seen from rooftops in the Gaza Strip, 45 miles to the east. Though initial reports blamed a leak, Israeli intelligence judged it sabotage. Local press reports mentioned a detonation device placed inside a terminal.
Likely suspects would have to include members of the peninsula's Bedouin tribes, traditional nomads who are unhappy with Egypt's central government and are alleged to have expressed their discontent by trying to sabotage the pipeline. But the dreaded working assumption places the blame on Islamist militants, rejectionists who control Gaza - and who Israel worries will take power in Cairo if President Hosni Mubarak leaves behind a vacuum.
Word that the Muslim Brotherhood on Sunday joined negotiations over the transition brought little comfort to the Jewish state. Though by most accounts it enjoys the support of perhaps a third of Egyptians, the Brotherhood, which preaches both political Islam and nonviolence, was by far the most organized political opposition party under Mubarak's regime. The young people who have led the massive demonstrations across Egypt appear to be organized only through their desire to see change.
"The worst case scenario is that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over," says former Israeli military chief Shaul Mofaz, now chair of the Knesset committee on foreign affairs and defense. "And they're against a peace process with Israel."
Not very encouraging prospects!
Definitely not a Climate for Negotiations!
Looks more like a Ramp-Up to another '67!
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Egypt's Brotherhood warns it could quit talks with government
Reuters
By Yasmine Saleh and Andrew Hammond Yasmine Saleh And Andrew Hammond – 57 mins ago
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday it could pull out of talks with the government if opposition demands were not met, including the immediate exit of President Hosni Mubarak who on Monday chaired a cabinet meeting.
Mubarak, 82, who refuses calls to end his 30-year-old rule before September polls, saying his resignation would cause chaos in the Arab world's most populous nation, has tried to focus on restoring order and his government seems to be buying time.........
They,the MB calls the Shots,and if they are in,Peace in the Region is definitely out,and further Negotiations will be stillborn!
Reuters
By Yasmine Saleh and Andrew Hammond Yasmine Saleh And Andrew Hammond – 57 mins ago
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday it could pull out of talks with the government if opposition demands were not met, including the immediate exit of President Hosni Mubarak who on Monday chaired a cabinet meeting.
Mubarak, 82, who refuses calls to end his 30-year-old rule before September polls, saying his resignation would cause chaos in the Arab world's most populous nation, has tried to focus on restoring order and his government seems to be buying time.........
They,the MB calls the Shots,and if they are in,Peace in the Region is definitely out,and further Negotiations will be stillborn!
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Conrad73: Egypt's Brotherhood warns it could quit talks with government
Reuters
By Yasmine Saleh and Andrew Hammond Yasmine Saleh And Andrew Hammond – 57 mins ago
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday it could pull out of talks with the government if opposition demands were not met, including the immediate exit of President Hosni Mubarak who on Monday chaired a cabinet meeting.
Mubarak, 82, who refuses calls to end his 30-year-old rule before September polls, saying his resignation would cause chaos in the Arab world's most populous nation, has tried to focus on restoring order and his government seems to be buying time.........http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110207/wl_nm/us_egypt
They,the MB calls the Shots,and if they are in,Peace in the Region is definitely out,and further Negotiations will be stillborn!
Reuters
By Yasmine Saleh and Andrew Hammond Yasmine Saleh And Andrew Hammond – 57 mins ago
CAIRO (Reuters) – Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said on Monday it could pull out of talks with the government if opposition demands were not met, including the immediate exit of President Hosni Mubarak who on Monday chaired a cabinet meeting.
Mubarak, 82, who refuses calls to end his 30-year-old rule before September polls, saying his resignation would cause chaos in the Arab world's most populous nation, has tried to focus on restoring order and his government seems to be buying time.........http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110207/wl_nm/us_egypt
They,the MB calls the Shots,and if they are in,Peace in the Region is definitely out,and further Negotiations will be stillborn!
I really enjoyed this article Conrad.....Don't ya just love Barack and Hillary.....so determined to do...
NOTHING!!!!!!!
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leigh2154: I really enjoyed this article Conrad.....Don't ya just love Barack and Hillary.....so determined to do...
NOTHING!!!!!!!
Except throwing Friends under the Bus in the Spirit of Expediency!NOTHING!!!!!!!
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Conrad73: The Sinai Gas Blast: Another Reason for Israeli Anxiety Over Egypt
Time.com
By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 2 hrs 8 mins ago
... the Brotherhood, which preaches both political Islam and nonviolence, was by far the most organized political opposition party under Mubarak's regime. The young people who have led the massive demonstrations across Egypt appear to be organized only through their desire to see change."
"The worst case scenario is that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over," says former Israeli military chief Shaul Mofaz, now chair of the Knesset committee on foreign affairs and defense. "And they're against a peace process with Israel."
Well Conrad, at least your in step with the ZOG doctrines from within the Netanyahu posse. Time.com
By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 2 hrs 8 mins ago
... the Brotherhood, which preaches both political Islam and nonviolence, was by far the most organized political opposition party under Mubarak's regime. The young people who have led the massive demonstrations across Egypt appear to be organized only through their desire to see change."
"The worst case scenario is that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over," says former Israeli military chief Shaul Mofaz, now chair of the Knesset committee on foreign affairs and defense. "And they're against a peace process with Israel."
The article clearly says the MB is non-violent yet you and Netahyahu are already writing them off. I see where this is going.
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