mikygr: No, they had never the same chances. Israel was incredible financed and supported thereafter, not so the Palestinians. But as I mentioned in other Threads, we must learn out of our own political failures. The onside recognition of countries, either here or in Croatia ore in Bosnia etc. can only lead to horror and terror. We all know that the constitutions of the international organisations are ineffective because of the still existing veto-rights. And as long this exists, they will remain just straw organisations. And once again: I never was and I’m not “anti-Semitist”, “anti-Buddhist”, “anti-Islam”, “anti-Christian” or whatever. This matter does not interest me since I grew older, because I read a lot, a lot, a lot about religions. And finally I concentrate myself in philosophy, sciences and what is going on in this world today. Means I’m just a very careful watcher and responder in here. And most of all very fair. I was one of two protecting your image in here, did you notice that?
Except it wasn't Israel that attacked nine Arabstates in 1948!
Conrad73: Except it wasn't Israel that attacked nine Arabstates in 1948!
Arab-Palestinians could have a State along Israel in '48,but they became Greedy,and wanted it all. Just like Arafat when he tried to take over Jordan. Same Mindset!
War was Imminent then! Someone massing Armies all around you,you don't normally wait until they invade you,moreover since it was made clear by Egypt and the others what they were going to do!
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 posts
Conrad73: War was Imminent then! Someone massing Armies all around you,you don't normally wait until they invade you,moreover since it was made clear by Egypt and the others what they were going to do!
LOL It was a slight give away . But since then Egypt & Israel have had a truce & are now trading partners. So it does show others that differences can be put aside for the good of all
Wow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
Conrad73: War was Imminent then! Someone massing Armies all around you,you don't normally wait until they invade you,moreover since it was made clear by Egypt and the others what they were going to do!
Israel fought for six days - and on the seventh day they rested
steve6610: LOL It was a slight give away . But since then Egypt & Israel have had a truce & are now trading partners. So it does show others that differences can be put aside for the good of all
First what is needed is for HAMAS,and also for the PA to change their Charters!
jvaski: Those Global and National security issues are in part caused by us ( USA ) meddling in other's affairs and occupying where we're not wanted.........
The Isreali and Palesinte talks are being done here in the US. WE have host many Camp Davids in the past. Maybe this will be one of the last ones?
Besides when they intrude on your country with a terrorist attack....you tend to lose sight of borders.
And in this thread we actually shook hands and agreed on many points. Now we are at odds in every exchange. Might it be that we've reached an impasse? That the anger is first and the ideas ,..redundant? We both feel passion for our causes.
At this very moment Netanyahu heads to Washington to talk to Biden.
What is this? Why is he then going to address Jewish leaders in New Orleans? Does he feel this is his land? His property?
Wow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK3,698 posts
Conrad73: You easily perplexed?
That's the trouble with his lot. When faced with facts they become perplexed and it is a case of Vicky Pollard with the yeah but no but yeah but no but!
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 posts
Wow_Factor: That's the trouble with his lot. When faced with facts they become perplexed and it is a case of Vicky Pollard with the yeah but no but yeah but no but!
I think we need a jack Nicholson A few Good men moment... The truth you cant handle the truth
SilverBirch: Problem is Israel has 200 nukes and has essentially told the world to pound sand yet Pres. A has none? Interesting.
That Pres. A might just use his nucs elsewhere than Isreal..does not concern you? They just had a rally in Iran...they burned the UK flag and did the Down with the US rant.....
It does have nice rythem.....On the up beat....you shout "DOWN"...on the down beat... with say "with the"....then back on the upbeat you shout "US". Kind of remind me of the old 1960's favorite...shimmy to the left and shimmy to the right. Shake it all about, that what we are all about."
Israel has enough for nation state deterrence. Does Iran have a direct threat from Isreal? For a invasion? 1000 mile between them....no common border....Isreal does not have a Navy that can support such a mission. So Isreal is not going to invade Iran.
Iraq or Afghanistan going to invade Iran? No I don't see that happened in either. Maybe Russia will invade Iran. No, I don't think so, they are trade partners.
Iran does not need nucs. Or Nuclear materials processing. Everyone in the west including Russia....has offered to supply Iran with nuclear fuel rods tor its reactors. But each time has been rejected by Iran.
So the Iranian need for nuc or nuclear material is what? Not for Nation State warfare deterrence. But Iran's close association with Islamic terrorism. I know it bites to be on the wrong side of history at times, SB. But as long as you mouth piece for Isreal's punishment or against its various security programs.....you speak positive to a Iranian position.
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