Middle East Peace Plan (490)
Albertaghost: How so? I started this thread and even Silverbirch said my ideas and thoughts on both sides were fair. Are you now going to go against Silverbirch and say he is a liar?
Never said you did so why you bring that up is beyond me. As for 'discharging' israel she is not but, as I explained, hse is saying that the bulk of the misery can be alleviated by the Palestinians themselves. If you go to her site you will find her quite critical of israel as well as she, like many of us and, unlike you and your 'pack' an see things from both sides.
In reaction to the horrors comitted by terrorism on the Palestinians side. Yes, I have examined much of this. Matter of fact, I have actually spent some time in that area Antjo.
You mean you have actually shown us a fact? When and where? I can't call anything first or second unless it exists to begin with so please Auntjo, show us these facts of yours please.
Should I repeat some of SB´s stuff about Zionist crimes? You and others have already said a lot against that. Never said you did so why you bring that up is beyond me. As for 'discharging' israel she is not but, as I explained, hse is saying that the bulk of the misery can be alleviated by the Palestinians themselves. If you go to her site you will find her quite critical of israel as well as she, like many of us and, unlike you and your 'pack' an see things from both sides.
In reaction to the horrors comitted by terrorism on the Palestinians side. Yes, I have examined much of this. Matter of fact, I have actually spent some time in that area Antjo.
You mean you have actually shown us a fact? When and where? I can't call anything first or second unless it exists to begin with so please Auntjo, show us these facts of yours please.
Palestinian terror does not suppress the other terror. Remember Shabra and Chatila? The it was the Christian falange, never the Israeli state.
Anyway, I do not have much time. I will reply more later..
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Antjo39: Wow! I will have to take your cowardly and hypocritical stance to understand something and recover from my idiotic condition.
No thanks, I prefer to stay this way.
Mr. Hypocritical.
No thanks, I prefer to stay this way.
Mr. Hypocritical.
My Hypocritical, I'd like you to meet our Peruvian friend - Mr Angry.
As for being hypocritical, Patmac has addressed both sides and merely responds to you and your other angry pals one sided attacks saying that that one sidedness is the entire reality of the situation. You of course, prefer to stay one sided so, adiu.
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Antjo39: Wow! I will have to take your cowardly and hypocritical stance to understand something and recover from my idiotic condition.
No thanks, I prefer to stay this way.
Mr. Hypocritical.
No thanks, I prefer to stay this way.
Mr. Hypocritical.
No I just do something you admit you have not done ...READ ALL the information. If you do. Then folk might start looking at your posts without laughing at your inane attempts to prove a one sided viewpoint....
So I reckon if you are happy reading only the information you deem appropriate you sadly will never learn.
By the way what is cowardly about reading ALL the information and seeing fault in ALL. As always ALL the information give a complete
picture....
Shame you will never learn really
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patmac: Basic debate 101
Always read or listen to the facts presented to you.
You have already stated you do not. So that means you are not taking all the relevant information in the debate seriously.
No matter what you may or may not read. You need to see all the facts and as you do not read them all then my friend you do not have ALL the relevant information.
So any point you may make is moot as you are not using all available information ....
Always read or listen to the facts presented to you.
You have already stated you do not. So that means you are not taking all the relevant information in the debate seriously.
No matter what you may or may not read. You need to see all the facts and as you do not read them all then my friend you do not have ALL the relevant information.
So any point you may make is moot as you are not using all available information ....
You really think ALL the FACTS and available information have been presented in this thread? There is nothing more?
I'll answer for you. "NO"
Putting together a proposal for Middle East Peace, searching all available sources and opinions here on Connecting Singles and in all the literature and media is an arduous task indeed.
Anyone who has attempted to keep up on this, in past threads, in the literature and the world press is much more enlightened than the average "Jose" and knows what the positions of the multiple sides are. Even if you live in Guatemala.
The world keeps changing so positions and possible solutions shift about. What we need to do is keep an open mind about what is coming forth, for as we know, what is old may no longer be relevant today or next Friday.
As you often remind us, everyone except the innocents on both sides (innocents beginning with those too young to speak) have committed sins upon the others. And even the innocents had the audacity of having been born, disturbing the racial balance. We could spend our time here dwelling upon the past sins of both sides and, although history is important, no progress is made by simply looking back.
With the possible exceptions of you and I and some others, many have "chosen sides" and debate from their position only. They don't particularly want to delve deeply into the other side and look at things from the other perspective. When religion or politics, culture or love of country is involved, it is practically impossible to do that. That's just human nature.
If we insist on even handedness in the debate and/or require conduct according to someone's definition of fair play in order to have discourse, we will likely disqualify everyone from the debate or make things so long winded and politically correct (and boring). Is that what you want to do?
Maybe everyone should post a statement say "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect" and go on from there. Then you can go back to the Jokes and Music threads and enjoy yourself. You have nothing else to contribute here. Your job is done.
Well, off to dinner. Spaghetti and Chicken Parmesan.
PS: "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect"
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Paldi5: You really think ALL the FACTS and available information have been presented in this thread? There is nothing more?
I'll answer for you. "NO"
Putting together a proposal for Middle East Peace, searching all available sources and opinions here on Connecting Singles and in all the literature and media is an arduous task indeed.
Anyone who has attempted to keep up on this, in past threads, in the literature and the world press is much more enlightened than the average "Jose" and knows what the positions of the multiple sides are. Even if you live in Guatemala.
The world keeps changing so positions and possible solutions shift about. What we need to do is keep an open mind about what is coming forth, for as we know, what is old may no longer be relevant today or next Friday.
As you often remind us, everyone except the innocents on both sides (innocents beginning with those too young to speak) have committed sins upon the others. And even the innocents had the audacity of having been born, disturbing the racial balance. We could spend our time here dwelling upon the past sins of both sides and, although history is important, no progress is made by simply looking back.
With the possible exceptions of you and I and some others, many have "chosen sides" and debate from their position only. They don't particularly want to delve deeply into the other side and look at things from the other perspective. When religion or politics, culture or love of country is involved, it is practically impossible to do that. That's just human nature.
If we insist on even handedness in the debate and/or require conduct according to someone's definition of fair play in order to have discourse, we will likely disqualify everyone from the debate or make things so long winded and politically correct (and boring). Is that what you want to do?
Maybe everyone should post a statement say "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect" and go on from there. Then you can go back to the Jokes and Music threads and enjoy yourself. You have nothing else to contribute here. Your job is done.
Well, off to dinner. Spaghetti and Chicken Parmesan.
PS: "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect"
I'll answer for you. "NO"
Putting together a proposal for Middle East Peace, searching all available sources and opinions here on Connecting Singles and in all the literature and media is an arduous task indeed.
Anyone who has attempted to keep up on this, in past threads, in the literature and the world press is much more enlightened than the average "Jose" and knows what the positions of the multiple sides are. Even if you live in Guatemala.
The world keeps changing so positions and possible solutions shift about. What we need to do is keep an open mind about what is coming forth, for as we know, what is old may no longer be relevant today or next Friday.
As you often remind us, everyone except the innocents on both sides (innocents beginning with those too young to speak) have committed sins upon the others. And even the innocents had the audacity of having been born, disturbing the racial balance. We could spend our time here dwelling upon the past sins of both sides and, although history is important, no progress is made by simply looking back.
With the possible exceptions of you and I and some others, many have "chosen sides" and debate from their position only. They don't particularly want to delve deeply into the other side and look at things from the other perspective. When religion or politics, culture or love of country is involved, it is practically impossible to do that. That's just human nature.
If we insist on even handedness in the debate and/or require conduct according to someone's definition of fair play in order to have discourse, we will likely disqualify everyone from the debate or make things so long winded and politically correct (and boring). Is that what you want to do?
Maybe everyone should post a statement say "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect" and go on from there. Then you can go back to the Jokes and Music threads and enjoy yourself. You have nothing else to contribute here. Your job is done.
Well, off to dinner. Spaghetti and Chicken Parmesan.
PS: "patmac is right, there are two sides to everything and both sides deserve respect"
No way are all the facts on the forums but I like you read them Anjo admits he does not. So any argument he has is moot as he is not even respecting the folk he is supposed to be debating with.
That is my point to him.
Enjoy your dinner Fred
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Albertaghost: One blaming one side just like you, Silverbirch and Paldi.
Yes, what a load of crap.
Now, first off, it's not a guy but an Egyptian woman who is a world renowned human rights activist so, you have that wrong. Second, she is not anti Arab but is anti repression. Third, how about addressing the actual points within the article or is that beyond your abilities seeing as how you seem to show up on threads with guys who cannot or will not answer questions and yourself having a rep for sidetracking every point into obfuscation.
You can read about her here;
Keep in mind that they are only the messenger and she is the peaceful one who is the Egyptian human rights activist and world renowned author, peace and human rights activist and, says the same things be they published on this site or on her own sites.
Now, is it possible for you to address the actual points she brought up or is hiding and blaming the messenger the only counterpoint you have?
Yes, what a load of crap.
Now, first off, it's not a guy but an Egyptian woman who is a world renowned human rights activist so, you have that wrong. Second, she is not anti Arab but is anti repression. Third, how about addressing the actual points within the article or is that beyond your abilities seeing as how you seem to show up on threads with guys who cannot or will not answer questions and yourself having a rep for sidetracking every point into obfuscation.
You can read about her here;
Keep in mind that they are only the messenger and she is the peaceful one who is the Egyptian human rights activist and world renowned author, peace and human rights activist and, says the same things be they published on this site or on her own sites.
Now, is it possible for you to address the actual points she brought up or is hiding and blaming the messenger the only counterpoint you have?
OK Al. I will respond to your question. While I'm composing a response for you, have another look at this youtube video. It seems to me there two women have had very similar experiences. You may want to address her points for me, while I'm doing my response.
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If I am reading this right I do believe the MB is going to be in this negotiation meeting. They are going to attempt to be unbiased and look at everything from all view points in order to help solve Egypts problems.
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Colleene1024: If I am reading this right I do believe the MB is going to be in this negotiation meeting. They are going to attempt to be unbiased and look at everything from all view points in order to help solve Egypts problems.
The peoblem is that some in their ranks are still carrying the old radical tune and some the new moderate tune. Who will win?
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Paldi5: OK Al. I will respond to your question. While I'm composing a response for you, have another look at this youtube video. It seems to me there two women have had very similar experiences. You may want to address her points for me, while I'm doing my response.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBkWmeebn2w
Sorry but I don't respond to people that I have to take notes on and then hope that they are the ones my fellow poster (you) wished to present. Perhaps if you could narrow the exact passage I was to answer to I will but to talk back to a youtube vid is pretty silly.
Wiki
Elhanan's daughter, Smadar Elhanan,: was the victim of a suicide bombing attack. She states that she does not blame the group of suicide bombers for the incident, but rather the Israeli oppression of Palestinians as an indirect cause of her daughter's death.
I agree however, it goes b ack a lot farther than that - to where the Palestinians declared war rather than make peace in 1848 forcing Israel to defend themselves against them and the other eight Arab entities determined to destroy them. Pity she only goes back a few months rather than years.
In response to: She had commented the following on the death of her daughter:
"My little girl was murdered because she was an Israeli by a young man who was humiliated, oppressed and desperate to the point of suicide and murder and inhumanity, just because he was a Palestinian."
]"My little girl was murdered because she was an Israeli by a young man who was humiliated, oppressed and desperate to the point of suicide and murder and inhumanity, just because he was a Palestinian."
I would tend to agree but wonder why she still is not going to tell us why the Palestinians did not accept peace as Israel did but rather sided with the Arabs rather than accept UN Resolution 181 and to this day, have done nothing but attempt to destroy and kill all Israelis.
And they wonder why they are not given full access to Israel.
"There is no basic moral difference between: the soldier at the checkpoint who prevents a woman who is having a baby from going through, causing her to lose the baby, and the man who killed my daughter. And just as my daughter was a victim [of the occupation], so was he."
So is she planning on having Hamas and a few other terrorists like Osama Bin Laden over for coffee or what? A soldier obeying orders and inadvertently causing a miscarriage is hardly anything like a guy deliberately killing the most vulnerable of society in inhuman ways.
Peled-Elhanan: is the daughter of the late general, Arab scholar and politician Mattityahu Peled
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Albertaghost: Nonie_Darwish
... is the Egyptian human rights activist and world renowned author, peace and human rights activist and, says the same things be they published on this site or on her own sites.
Now, is it possible for you to address the actual points she brought up or is hiding and blaming the messenger the only counterpoint you have?
... is the Egyptian human rights activist and world renowned author, peace and human rights activist and, says the same things be they published on this site or on her own sites.
Now, is it possible for you to address the actual points she brought up or is hiding and blaming the messenger the only counterpoint you have?
Regarding Nonie Darwash, I agree with most everything she says. Some things more than others of course.
Too bad she had to suffer the loss of her father at a young age, move to America after graduating from college and experience 911 before she found her voice. She obviously was exposed to modern thinking and the influence of her husband and the Christian church.
To me, she seems a little too pro-Israeli/anti Arab, losing a sense of the proper balance. If she desires to win others to her cause, she needs to move a little bit toward the center.
Democracy and Islam coexistence is becoming a topic of heated debate. Some argue democracy is a purely Western concept imposed on Muslim countries. Others feel Islam necessitates a democratic system and that democracy has a basis in the Quran since "mutual consultation" among the people is commended. (42:38 Quran) (For more on this, see the link below.)
I don't know enough about her views, ie. is she advocating total repudiation of Islam or moderation of it? Maybe you have some answers, Al?
This link is interesting for those of you who want to learn more about Sharia law and secularism, democracy and modernity.
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Fred
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Albertaghost: Sorry but I don't respond to people that I have to take notes on and then hope that they are the ones my fellow poster (you) wished to present. Perhaps if you could narrow the exact passage I was to answer to I will but to talk back to a youtube vid is pretty silly.
WikiI agree however, it goes b ack a lot farther than that - to where the Palestinians declared war rather than make peace in 1848 forcing Israel to defend themselves against them and the other eight Arab entities determined to destroy them. Pity she only goes back a few months rather than years.
]
I would tend to agree but wonder why she still is not going to tell us why the Palestinians did not accept peace as Israel did but rather sided with the Arabs rather than accept UN Resolution 181 and to this day, have done nothing but attempt to destroy and kill all Israelis.
And they wonder why they are not given full access to Israel.
So is she planning on having Hamas and a few other terrorists like Osama Bin Laden over for coffee or what? A soldier obeying orders and inadvertently causing a miscarriage is hardly anything like a guy deliberately killing the most vulnerable of society in inhuman ways.
WikiI agree however, it goes b ack a lot farther than that - to where the Palestinians declared war rather than make peace in 1848 forcing Israel to defend themselves against them and the other eight Arab entities determined to destroy them. Pity she only goes back a few months rather than years.
]
I would tend to agree but wonder why she still is not going to tell us why the Palestinians did not accept peace as Israel did but rather sided with the Arabs rather than accept UN Resolution 181 and to this day, have done nothing but attempt to destroy and kill all Israelis.
And they wonder why they are not given full access to Israel.
So is she planning on having Hamas and a few other terrorists like Osama Bin Laden over for coffee or what? A soldier obeying orders and inadvertently causing a miscarriage is hardly anything like a guy deliberately killing the most vulnerable of society in inhuman ways.
Thanks, nice job Al.
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Sorry about the double post folks.
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Paldi5: Regarding Nonie Darwash, I agree with most everything she says. Some things more than others of course.
Too bad she had to suffer the loss of her father at a young age, move to America after graduating from college and experience 911 before she found her voice. She obviously was exposed to modern thinking and the influence of her husband and the Christian church.
To me, she seems a little too pro-Israeli/anti Arab, losing a sense of the proper balance. If she desires to win others to her cause, she needs to move a little bit toward the center.
Too bad she had to suffer the loss of her father at a young age, move to America after graduating from college and experience 911 before she found her voice. She obviously was exposed to modern thinking and the influence of her husband and the Christian church.
To me, she seems a little too pro-Israeli/anti Arab, losing a sense of the proper balance. If she desires to win others to her cause, she needs to move a little bit toward the center.
I don't know about pro Israel unless you figure that by not hating Israel that is somehow being in love with that nation. As for being anti Arab, nowhere is she in fact, she is only against the oppressive fundamentalist Muslims that wish to run everybody's lives by their interpretation of Islam.
Here, this might clarify her position;
"The Arab mind was trained to never venture outside of the box of Islamic superiority, and that prevented us from treating the rest of humanity as equals. It is alien to Muslim preachers today to preach love to all of humanity and wishing non-Muslims the same human rights as Muslims.
I often get mail from secular Muslims who ask me: I can understand that you chose to leave Islam, but how can you support the Jews? I get mail like this because, in the Muslim mindset, loving, accepting and feeling good about Jews or Christians and thinking of them as equals, is unthinkable and an act of treason to Islam itself and even worse. It is as though the whole religion of Islam is dedicated to hating and killing Jews.
After centuries of this kind of education, the Muslim world produced a dysfunctional society, unable to relate to the rest of the world. While wanting to convince the world they are a religion of peace, do not be afraid of Islam, they are still hell-bent on conquering the world for Islam. That is Islam’s dilemma today.
What I, and a few others, are trying to do is to bring the truth to both Muslims and non-Muslims to finally face this sick game. We want to encourage Arabs to look at Jews and others as human beings and not as enemies to conquer. What kind of God will tell his followers to kill more than half of humanity if they don’t submit to Islam? The Muslim world today is a disaster waiting to happen. Ahmadinejad, who is not an Arab, wants to continue the Islamic jihad against Jews by destroying Israel. I have news to especially the Left in Europe and America: Islamic jihad will not end with Israel; you will be next."
Paldi5: Democracy and Islam coexistence is becoming a topic of heated debate. Some argue democracy is a purely Western concept imposed on Muslim countries.
I can assure you that those people are wrong as democracy is never imposed but rather requires the participation of the people otherwise it is not democracy.
Paldi5: Others feel Islam necessitates a democratic system and that democracy has a basis in the Quran since "mutual consultation" among the people is commended.
Just as long as the decisions are the same as what the clerics approve of. Hardly democratic.
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Albertaghost: I don't know about pro Israel unless you figure that by not hating Israel that is somehow being in love with that nation. As for being anti Arab, nowhere is she in fact, she is only against the oppressive fundamentalist Muslims that wish to run everybody's lives by their interpretation of Islam.
I can assure you that those people are wrong as democracy is never imposed but rather requires the participation of the people otherwise it is not democracy.
Just as long as the decisions are the same as what the clerics approve of. Hardly democratic.
I can assure you that those people are wrong as democracy is never imposed but rather requires the participation of the people otherwise it is not democracy.
Just as long as the decisions are the same as what the clerics approve of. Hardly democratic.
Of course democracy won't work without the support of the population, who would vote if they don't? Bush and others were trying to "impose" democracy upon the leaders of these countries, by blackmailing them with threats to with hold aid and other ways. Obama tried an "outreach" approach but recently he too threatened Mubarak with a loss of aid unless he moved to meet many of the demands of the protesters who WANT democracy.
OK are you still with me?
If she is only speaking out against oppressive fundamentalist Muslims, as you say, then fine. But, as I tried to point out in my postings above recently, there are several schools of Islamic thought, and the religion appears to allow for modernization in its laws as changing times dictate. Egypt appears to be in the moderate camp and she is from Egypt so I believe she my be over generalizing a bit painting the whole culture as defective, from Morocco to Indonesia. If sher grew up in Afghanistan she most likely never would have enjoyed the privileges of a college education or a secular upbringing.
To be fair, there is a segment of the population in democratic Israel who are pursuing a radical and bigoted path as well. I read about communal review/rejection of people wanting to move into communities, prohibitions against renting to Arab college students and other things that seem OK or logical for security on the surface but are used to discriminate on a broad scale (not just to filter out criminals or crazy people, but Arabs and Christians because of their religion) and are in violation of the constitution.
These activities are often supported by high level rabbis. If one was painting with a broad brush it could be said democracy in Israel is practiced "just as long as the decisions are the same as what the rabbis approve of."
I'll keep my thoughts within the Green Line. No sense trying to discuss settler behavior or Hamas.
Fred
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Albertaghost: Feel free to join in. Providing you can stop the cycle of blame.
Proposed Solution.
Proposed Solution.
I'm late putting in my .02 but this isn't a bad plan. Certainly not complete but it's a good start and hey, it's not an Israel or Palestine bashing thread.
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Paldi5: The peoblem is that some in their ranks are still carrying the old radical tune and some the new moderate tune. Who will win?
Who will win between a Pickpocket and an Armed Robber?Not much of a Contest,is there!
Besides,the aims of MB have never changed!
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Boy and the RattleSnake Story
Scout Story
A little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.
They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.
He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."
Scout Story
A little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, "Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die." The little boy answered "No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you'll bite me and I'll die." The rattlesnake said, "No, I promise. I won't bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain." The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.
They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, "Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old." The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, "Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now." The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.
He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. "Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!" The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, "You knew what I was when you picked me up."
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Albertaghost: Feel free to join in. Providing you can stop the cycle of blame.
Proposed Solution.
Proposed Solution.
I clicked on your link and got the "proposed solution" as follows:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@peace-now.skinworld.ca and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request
I'm curious now. What did the link say when it was working?
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Paldi5: I clicked on your link and got the "proposed solution" as follows:
Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@peace-now.skinworld.ca and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request
I'm curious now. What did the link say when it was working?
Seems you have a pretty powerful Computer,you blew that thing to smitherenes!Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@peace-now.skinworld.ca and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request
I'm curious now. What did the link say when it was working?
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level
and beat you with his experience.THAT IS WHY I NEVER FEEL THE NEED TO ARGUE WITH YOU.
I just point out your lack of complete understanding of the subject
Wow! I will have to take your cowardly and hypocritical stance to understand something and recover from my idiotic condition.
No thanks, I prefer to stay this way.
Mr. Hypocritical.