Middle East Peace Plan (490)
jvaski: Those Global and National security issues are in part caused by us ( USA ) meddling in other's affairs and occupying where we're not wanted.........
Are you suggesting that without the USA there would be no Muslims or oil in the middle east and, that if there were Muslims and oil, that no power on earth would wish to have access to it and, that the Arab world would prefer to starve rather than sell that oil?
If this is so I should like to hear how you rationalize this. So explain how this is all the fault of the US again please?
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Albertaghost: Are you suggesting that without the USA there would be no Muslims or oil in the middle east and, that if there were Muslims and oil, that no power on earth would wish to have access to it and, that the Arab world would prefer to starve rather than sell that oil?
If this is so I should like to hear how you rationalize this. So explain how this is all the fault of the US again please?
If this is so I should like to hear how you rationalize this. So explain how this is all the fault of the US again please?
Alberta...there is nothing rational about JVASKI's thinking, although I do hope he responds. He's at least entertaining.
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K
Over the last 9 years , I have become indoctrinated ....by liberal ideology. The entire Texas textbook fight was over a liberal proposal.....to have all future school textbooks...title the two Bush terms....as the.."Dark Years in American History"....with a photo of Darth Vader on page one.
Over the last 9 years , I have become indoctrinated ....by liberal ideology. The entire Texas textbook fight was over a liberal proposal.....to have all future school textbooks...title the two Bush terms....as the.."Dark Years in American History"....with a photo of Darth Vader on page one.
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BUMP
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Let's see if the Kohorts can kill this one too!
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Al,
And in this thread we actually shook hands and agreed on many points. Now we are at odds in every exchange. Might it be that we've reached an impasse? That the anger is first and the ideas ,..redundant? We both feel passion for our causes.
At this very moment Netanyahu heads to Washington to talk to Biden.
What is this? Why is he then going to address Jewish leaders in New Orleans? Does he feel this is his land? His property?
This is very perplexing.
And in this thread we actually shook hands and agreed on many points. Now we are at odds in every exchange. Might it be that we've reached an impasse? That the anger is first and the ideas ,..redundant? We both feel passion for our causes.
At this very moment Netanyahu heads to Washington to talk to Biden.
What is this? Why is he then going to address Jewish leaders in New Orleans? Does he feel this is his land? His property?
This is very perplexing.
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SilverBirch: Al,
And in this thread we actually shook hands and agreed on many points. Now we are at odds in every exchange. Might it be that we've reached an impasse? That the anger is first and the ideas ,..redundant? We both feel passion for our causes.
At this very moment Netanyahu heads to Washington to talk to Biden.
What is this? Why is he then going to address Jewish leaders in New Orleans? Does he feel this is his land? His property?
This is very perplexing.
And in this thread we actually shook hands and agreed on many points. Now we are at odds in every exchange. Might it be that we've reached an impasse? That the anger is first and the ideas ,..redundant? We both feel passion for our causes.
At this very moment Netanyahu heads to Washington to talk to Biden.
What is this? Why is he then going to address Jewish leaders in New Orleans? Does he feel this is his land? His property?
This is very perplexing.
Maybe he has a counter offer to place on the table for Abbas to see. So he goes to Biden....to deliver the offer. Or he needs to the US to give weight to a position on the developments.
Obama goes to Saudi, Denmark, Mexico, England . Biden goes to Iraq and Afghanistan...is that perplexing? Is that US proper? You trivialize, SB..
SB....Netanyhu is one of the most influencial men in the world.
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SB....Netanyhu is one of the most influencial men in the world
Sorry ttom, Netanyahu is only important in Israel. He is seen by many millions if not billions of people as an irrational man making unjust demands of a beaten foe.
I, and millions of Americans are wondering what are his ulterior motives for inviting himself to MY country and talking to the Vice President who represents ME and has no decision making authority, and then traveling on to address another forum of HIS People on MY Countries soil.??????????????
I see him and you as potential adversaries. As do many MILLIONS of others. Are you ttom?
Sorry ttom, Netanyahu is only important in Israel. He is seen by many millions if not billions of people as an irrational man making unjust demands of a beaten foe.
I, and millions of Americans are wondering what are his ulterior motives for inviting himself to MY country and talking to the Vice President who represents ME and has no decision making authority, and then traveling on to address another forum of HIS People on MY Countries soil.??????????????
I see him and you as potential adversaries. As do many MILLIONS of others. Are you ttom?
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SilverBirch: SB....Netanyhu is one of the most influencial men in the world
Sorry ttom, Netanyahu is only important in Israel. He is seen by many millions if not billions of people as an irrational man making unjust demands of a beaten foe.
I, and millions of Americans are wondering what are his ulterior motives for inviting himself to MY country and talking to the Vice President who represents ME and has no decision making authority, and then traveling on to address another forum of HIS People on MY Countries soil.??????????????
I see him and you as potential adversaries. As do many MILLIONS of others. Are you ttom?
Sorry ttom, Netanyahu is only important in Israel. He is seen by many millions if not billions of people as an irrational man making unjust demands of a beaten foe.
I, and millions of Americans are wondering what are his ulterior motives for inviting himself to MY country and talking to the Vice President who represents ME and has no decision making authority, and then traveling on to address another forum of HIS People on MY Countries soil.??????????????
I see him and you as potential adversaries. As do many MILLIONS of others. Are you ttom?
The man leads a nuclear weapon country, SB. That alone make him influencial. But hey....several media and magazine have made him number 28th and another have him as 11th. in the world's influence. So with only 3.5b men behind him on the list, I would say he is one of the world's most influencial men. But that is just me....a number kind of guy.
The British Statesmen, a left wing magazine.....has him as 11th most influencial men in the world of 50 in 2010.
I would be more worried about the ulterior motives of President Ahmenjada of Iran, than Netanyahu.
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ttom500: The man leads a nuclear weapon country, SB. That alone make him influencial. But hey....several media and magazine have made him number 28th and another have him as 11th. in the world's influence. So with only 3.5b men behind him on the list, I would say he is one of the world's most influencial men. But that is just me....a number kind of guy.
The British Statesmen, a left wing magazine.....has him as 11th most influencial men in the world of 50 in 2010.
I would be more worried about the ulterior motives of President Ahmenjada of Iran, than Netanyahu.
Geeze ttom,. didn't find him here on Time magazines top 100.?The British Statesmen, a left wing magazine.....has him as 11th most influencial men in the world of 50 in 2010.
I would be more worried about the ulterior motives of President Ahmenjada of Iran, than Netanyahu.
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ttom500: The man leads a nuclear weapon country, SB. That alone make him influencial. But hey....several media and magazine have made him number 28th and another have him as 11th. in the world's influence. So with only 3.5b men behind him on the list, I would say he is one of the world's most influencial men. But that is just me....a number kind of guy.
The British Statesmen, a left wing magazine.....has him as 11th most influencial men in the world of 50 in 2010.
I would be more worried about the ulterior motives of President Ahmenjada of Iran, than Netanyahu.
Problem is Israel has 200 nukes and has essentially told the world to pound sand yet Pres. A has none? Interesting.The British Statesmen, a left wing magazine.....has him as 11th most influencial men in the world of 50 in 2010.
I would be more worried about the ulterior motives of President Ahmenjada of Iran, than Netanyahu.
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SilverBirch: Problem is Israel has 200 nukes and has essentially told the world to pound sand yet Pres. A has none? Interesting.
You trust Madman A. of Iran,who is trying to usher in the 12th Imam? ------ This thread is Locked ------
SilverBirch: Problem is Israel has 200 nukes and has essentially told the world to pound sand yet Pres. A has none? Interesting.
You've personally inspected Irans nuclear facilities?
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RayfromUSA: 1. Disarm Israel and arm Palestine until there is military parity.
2. Bomb Israel and rebuild Palestine until there is infrastructural parity.
3. Rob Israel and give to Palestine until there is economic parity.
4. Starve Israel and feed Palestine until there is health parity.
Let that parity continue for 50 years and then let them take care of their own problems.
2. Bomb Israel and rebuild Palestine until there is infrastructural parity.
3. Rob Israel and give to Palestine until there is economic parity.
4. Starve Israel and feed Palestine until there is health parity.
Let that parity continue for 50 years and then let them take care of their own problems.
Something like that would be due, but without bombing.
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mikygr: Something like that would be due, but without bombing.
In spite that the Palestinians had the same Chance as the Jews in 1947,but chose war instead,and have ever since?
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Conrad73: In spite that the Palestinians had the same Chance as the Jews in 1947,but chose war instead,and have ever since?
And I am sure that there will be the usual people on here who will dispute actual history because it goes against the grain of their prejudices about the region.
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Wow_Factor: And I am sure that there will be the usual people on here who will dispute actual history because it goes against the grain of their prejudices about the region.
Sadly I think you will be proven correct
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Conrad73: In spite that the Palestinians had the same Chance as the Jews in 1947,but chose war instead,and have ever since?
No, they had never the same chances. Israel was incredible financed and supported thereafter, not so the Palestinians. But as I mentioned in other Threads, we must learn out of our own political failures. The onside recognition of countries, either here or in Croatia ore in Bosnia etc. can only lead to horror and terror. We all know that the constitutions of the international organisations are ineffective because of the still existing veto-rights. And as long this exists, they will remain just straw organisations. And once again: I never was and I’m not “anti-Semitist”, “anti-Buddhist”, “anti-Islam”, “anti-Christian” or whatever. This matter does not interest me since I grew older, because I read a lot, a lot, a lot about religions. And finally I concentrate myself in philosophy, sciences and what is going on in this world today. Means I’m just a very careful watcher and responder in here. And most of all very fair. I was one of two protecting your image in here, did you notice that?
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mikygr: No, they had never the same chances. Israel was incredible financed and supported thereafter, not so the Palestinians. But as I mentioned in other Threads, we must learn out of our own political failures. The onside recognition of countries, either here or in Croatia ore in Bosnia etc. can only lead to horror and terror. We all know that the constitutions of the international organisations are ineffective because of the still existing veto-rights. And as long this exists, they will remain just straw organisations. And once again: I never was and I’m not “anti-Semitist”, “anti-Buddhist”, “anti-Islam”, “anti-Christian” or whatever. This matter does not interest me since I grew older, because I read a lot, a lot, a lot about religions. And finally I concentrate myself in philosophy, sciences and what is going on in this world today. Means I’m just a very careful watcher and responder in here. And most of all very fair. I was one of two protecting your image in here, did you notice that?
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I believe that is what I said in the rough plan. first identify the factions and individuals then figure out how to placate them, change them or just get rid of them one way or another.
First step is identifying them and what they are doing and why. Got a list?