SilverBirch: Well Conrad, at least your in step with the ZOG doctrines from within the Netanyahu posse.
The article clearly says the MB is non-violent yet you and Netahyahu are already writing them off. I see where this is going.
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Israeli Westerns? I have heard of Spegatti Westerns....from Italy....but Israeli Western?
MB is the grand father of all Islamic terrorist groups in ideology and rhetoric. If they were not violent why did Egypt ban the MB after Sadat's assignation? A case of mistaken identity?
The Muslim Brotherhood began as a social and religious organization in Egypt whose members regarded Islam as a way of life. Many Syrian supporters founded their own branches in Syria, one of which was the Aleppo branch, founded in 1935. The Aleppo branch eventually became the Syrian headquarters of the Brotherhood. The Brotherhood expanded its political involvement as the Party of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hizb al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun.
Amazing how the Leopard bleached it's spots!
Or perhaps used a cheap dye which always fades over time?
Conrad73: The Sinai Gas Blast: Another Reason for Israeli Anxiety Over Egypt Time.com
By KARL VICK / JERUSALEM Karl Vick / Jerusalem – 2 hrs 8 mins ago
The explosion that ripped through a natural gas pipeline in the northern Sinai Desert on Saturday did more than cut off the flow of Egyptian fuel to Israel and Jordan. It also deepened Israeli fears about the changes underway in a powerful neighbor rendered at least neutral over the last 30 years by a peace treaty that might not survive the change in government.
The massive fireball at a monitoring station outside the Egyptian city Al-Arish could be seen from rooftops in the Gaza Strip, 45 miles to the east. Though initial reports blamed a leak, Israeli intelligence judged it sabotage. Local press reports mentioned a detonation device placed inside a terminal.
Likely suspects would have to include members of the peninsula's Bedouin tribes, traditional nomads who are unhappy with Egypt's central government and are alleged to have expressed their discontent by trying to sabotage the pipeline. But the dreaded working assumption places the blame on Islamist militants, rejectionists who control Gaza - and who Israel worries will take power in Cairo if President Hosni Mubarak leaves behind a vacuum.
Word that the Muslim Brotherhood on Sunday joined negotiations over the transition brought little comfort to the Jewish state. Though by most accounts it enjoys the support of perhaps a third of Egyptians, the Brotherhood, which preaches both political Islam and nonviolence, was by far the most organized political opposition party under Mubarak's regime. The young people who have led the massive demonstrations across Egypt appear to be organized only through their desire to see change.
"The worst case scenario is that the Muslim Brotherhood will take over," says former Israeli military chief Shaul Mofaz, now chair of the Knesset committee on foreign affairs and defense. "And they're against a peace process with Israel."
very encouraging prospects! Definitely not a Climate for Negotiations!
Looks more like a Ramp-Up to another '67!
I read someplace :) that Israel recently (2 days ago?) refused to allow any more Egyptian troops into the demilitarized Sinai. According to the peace treaty it was agreed by both parties that the Sinai was to be free of Egyptian troops. Israel agreed to allow some 80 or so soldiers in last week, but that's it. Damned if you do, darned if you don't?
SilverBirch: I know, "Good cop bad cop" thing. But if you want to talk Just and Honorable/Lasting Peace Lets start with the issues.
Settlements. I you think having IDF outposts littered in amongst the Palestine nation is "OK" then we're not going to get anywhere.
Jerusalem . I think we spoke to the "international city of worship" . I would like to see shared sovereignty. Or UN. With capitals for each. Gaza . Hamas must erase they "destruction" clause. And of course there's the logistical dilemma but if Hamas doesn't want to play by the rules, so be it.
Right of return.
Water Rights.
It would be nice if one of you ZOG ers would please keep this thread on topic. That IS what your getting paid for isn't it?
SilverBirch: I know, "Good cop bad cop" thing. But if you want to talk Just and Honorable/Lasting Peace Lets start with the issues.
Settlements. I you think having IDF outposts littered in amongst the Palestine nation is "OK" then we're not going to get anywhere.
Jerusalem . I think we spoke to the "international city of worship" . I would like to see shared sovereignty. Or UN. With capitals for each. Gaza . Hamas must erase they "destruction" clause. And of course there's the logistical dilemma but if Hamas doesn't want to play by the rules, so be it.
Right of return.
Water Rights.
Water Rights?
How much water do the Middle East Muslim Countries want?
They have coastal contact with the MED, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Caspian Sea, Indian Ocean, Sea of Arabia, Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Suez, Gulf of Aden, Atlantic Ocean, and yes the Jordan River.
Make or buy a distillation plant make fresh water from salt water.
Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA1,225 posts
All these woulda, coulda, shouldas are not going to make a bit of difference. They are what they are. The mid east women want equal rights and Egypt wants some form of freedom. Peace will not come untill someone gives in. Battles fought are battles won no matter how long or short they are.
Colleene1024: All these woulda, coulda, shouldas are not going to make a bit of difference. They are what they are. The mid east women want equal rights and Egypt wants some form of freedom. Peace will not come untill someone gives in. Battles fought are battles won no matter how long or short they are.
.and stop banging that Forehead! BTW,that Language was German,and roughly translated means,Drink Tea while you wait,usually indicating a longer than average wait for something to happen,like Peace in the ME!
Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA1,225 posts
Conrad73: .and stop banging that Forehead! BTW,that Language was German,and roughly translated means,Drink Tea while you wait,usually indicating a longer than average wait for something to happen,like Peace in the ME!
Yea, ok, NOW I'm lost Conrad! When did you speak German? I am not awake yet! I'm talking polotics on my first cup of coffee. I must have some serious issues!
How much water do the Middle East Muslim Countries want?
They have coastal contact with the MED, Red Sea, Persian Gulf, Caspian Sea, Indian Ocean, Sea of Arabia, Gulf of Oman, Gulf of Aden, Gulf of Suez, Gulf of Aden, Atlantic Ocean, and yes the Jordan River.
Make or buy a distillation plant make fresh water from salt water.
They could buy U.S. made Brita water filters from us.
Colleene1024: Yea, ok, NOW I'm lost Conrad! When did you speak German? I am not awake yet! I'm talking polotics on my first cup of coffee. I must have some serious issues!
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The article clearly says the MB is non-violent yet you and Netahyahu are already writing them off. I see where this is going.