Obama's success as president? ( Archived) (169)

Mar 21, 2015 1:46 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Would you consider Obama a good leader?

Why? If not, why?

Can you please provide practice or policies that support or not?

Being a world leader, is your country affected or not? How?

Thanks all for your participation.
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Mar 21, 2015 2:01 AM CST Obama's success as president?
lindsyjones: Would you consider Obama a good leader?

Why? If not, why?

Can you please provide practice or policies that support or not?

Being a world leader, is your country affected or not? How?

Thanks all for your participation.


His track report per Rasmussen is currently at 40 %. His performance as president for the last two years had been an all time low.

However according to the recent economic rrise it also reported it might go up.
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Mar 21, 2015 6:58 AM CST Obama's success as president?
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland72 Threads 9,779 Posts
Ah think Obama missing his old ancestral home in moneypenny Galway,


Think he missing the local guiness ,,,


cheers
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Mar 21, 2015 7:11 AM CST Obama's success as president?
The difficulty that people like Obama face is that their hands become tied by others, or political/business systems, around them which disable them from implementing all their ideas. He then has to solely bear any backlashes from various sections of society. This will always be the way unless the leader is a dictator and forces all his/her ideas regardless. Now would people prefer that?
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Mar 21, 2015 7:47 AM CST Obama's success as president?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Orien3: The difficulty that people like Obama face is that their hands become tied by others, or political/business systems, around them which disable them from implementing all their ideas. He then has to solely bear any backlashes from various sections of society. This will always be the way unless the leader is a dictator and forces all his/her ideas regardless. Now would people prefer that?


The USA president's job is not to implement all his ideas.

The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the execution of the office.

According to Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight of our Constitution... The president elect must make the oath or affirmation
— “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that (1) I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and (2) will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

In other words, he's sworn to see that the laws made by our representatives in Congress are upheld and executed, suggests budgets, and will protect THIS country (not police the world).

I was hoping to see president Obama withdraw our troops from most foreign countries, including Germany and Korea (those wars are long over). We can save a lot of money without the cost of those bases in forien countries! We can save a ton more money by reducing our active military members from over 1.2 million to lass than 400 million and use them to only secure our borders as well as be prepared for military action elsewhere.
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Mar 21, 2015 7:49 AM CST Obama's success as president?
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
The Best President
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Mar 21, 2015 8:01 AM CST Obama's success as president?
DertyHarry44: The Best President
rolling on the floor laughing

yep,even out-does Jimmy!laugh
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Mar 21, 2015 8:17 AM CST Obama's success as president?
galrads: The USA president's job is not to implement all his ideas.

The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the execution of the office.

According to Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight of our Constitution... The president elect must make the oath or affirmation
— “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that (1) I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and (2) will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”



In other words, he's sworn to see that the laws made by our representatives in Congress are upheld and executed, suggests budgets, and will protect THIS country (not police the world).

I was hoping to see president Obama withdraw our troops from most foreign countries, including Germany and Korea (those wars are long over). We can save a lot of money without the cost of those bases in forien countries! We can save a ton more money by reducing our active military members from over 1.2 million to lass than 400 million and use them to only secure our borders as well as be prepared for military action elsewhere.


We do know the mechanical as well as legal execution of the laws but ultimately he is the one to be judged. We know there are more member of the Republican in Congress and yes politically sabotaging his ideas specially thaose that protect more their interest but that is why there is a president to run and lead in order to achieve an effective leadership. As far as I am concerned just like the reflection of his performance on the poll. He sucks. He fails and he is not an effective leader.
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Mar 21, 2015 8:24 AM CST Obama's success as president?
We do know the mechanical as well as legal execution of the laws but ultimately he is the one to be judged. We know there are more member of the Republican in Congress and yes politically sabotaging his ideas specially thaose that protect more their interest but that is why there is a president to run and lead in order to achieve an effective leadership. As far as I am concerned just like the reflection of his performance on the poll. He sucks. He fails and he is not an effective leader.

But yes there are so many things that is needed for a law to get passed and still he is to me, a poor performing president.

On his immigration practice he is definitely not carrying out the fundamental law of the land about the border..
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Mar 21, 2015 8:25 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Orien3: The difficulty that people like Obama face is that their hands become tied by others, or political/business systems, around them which disable them from implementing all their ideas. He then has to solely bear any backlashes from various sections of society. This will always be the way unless the leader is a dictator and forces all his/her ideas regardless. Now would people prefer that?


Now that is not what I was suggesting, to be a dictator that is for sure..I will get back, I have a very important job to do.
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Mar 21, 2015 8:34 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
lindsyjones: Obs I just woke up and how beautiful indeed it is to be peaceful with the sun rising up in the east.

On his Mid East policy, it is causing his record to be all time low because he seems to be selling us to the Muslims? We have a little group that talk about his performance on war issues and terrorism and he is considered a wimp.

Anyways on the money matters, it is more of the LORDY MEMBERS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE that truly decide on the money beefing/printing/ and or based on where they would fancy to act on...

They own the world anyways and the IM and the WB is on their hands..


Good morning, Lindsy.

It is disappointing that Obama has not been able to assuage or contain the powderkeg that is the middle east. I would still say that I prefer Obama to Bush, Clinton(dirt bag), the other Bush, Reagan, Carter and maybe Ford. You'd have to go back to Richard Nixon to find an American president that I think anything of - gutting news for the others I'm sure - and even he was still a crook.
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Mar 21, 2015 9:52 AM CST Obama's success as president?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Mar 21, 2015 11:44 AM CST Obama's success as president?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
lindsyjones: We do know the mechanical as well as legal execution of the laws but ultimately he is the one to be judged. We know there are more member of the Republican in Congress and yes politically sabotaging his ideas specially thaose that protect more their interest but that is why there is a president to run and lead in order to achieve an effective leadership. As far as I am concerned just like the reflection of his performance on the poll. He sucks. He fails and he is not an effective leader.


Not unlike other presidents, History may judge President Obama differently. Although I agree president Obama is not an effective leader, I am glad he has kept us out of foreign affairs as much as he has.

I'm conservative and believe we should stay out of foreign affairs. Let others sacrifice their own youth for their own causes. Too often, our leaders, old men, have sent young men to their EARLY deaths for dumb and wrong reasons, like Vietnam. Instead of fighting their own battles, other countries, especially, Europeans, have come to depend on us sacrificing our youth for their cause w/o paying for jack imo.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:35 PM CST Obama's success as president?
LilBeaver
LilBeaverLilBeaverBayern, Bavaria Germany7 Threads 3 Polls 96 Posts
His sole reason to be were he is now, is to give black people some sense of pride...
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Mar 21, 2015 12:57 PM CST Obama's success as president?
DertyHarry44: The Best President


How so? Have you any specific program.? His Obama care what a joke.

His immigration practice?
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Mar 21, 2015 11:47 PM CST Obama's success as president?
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
Love him or hate him, he has accomplished a lot. The hardest was probably to lower the national unemployment rate which went from 10 to 6%. Bush changed the way the statistics were established, meaning it was higher than 10% under his leadership (scoff).

He's continuing to be a good serf to industry and he's not alienating the big multis. He did push the health care system through which benefits a lot of poor people (although it hurts people like myself).

The biggest problem that the US faces (China) will be an ongoing concern.

If I were in his shoes, I might be less accomodating to the republicans who have turned into a bunch of raving lunatics, judging by what I read coming from some of their corners. Since he's got nothing left to lose at this point, I would use the executive power and shut down (prosecute) some of their willfully obstructionist and idiotic proposals (ex: the signature collection by the senators re syria).

Considering the mess that was left for him to clean up, I don't think anybody could have done better, to be honest.


In response to: Would you consider Obama a good leader?

Why? If not, why?

Can you please provide practice or policies that support or not?

Being a world leader, is your country affected or not? How?

Thanks all for your participation.
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Mar 22, 2015 7:33 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Orien3: The difficulty that people like Obama face is that their hands become tied by others, or political/business systems, around them which disable them from implementing all their ideas. He then has to solely bear any backlashes from various sections of society. This will always be the way unless the leader is a dictator and forces all his/her ideas regardless. Now would people prefer that?


Yes indeed. One of the the downside on the reign governed through democratic system is the ability of the outside force to play by supporting the candidate that will most likely to endorse their policies,

While it is under deep scrutiny not to cripple the real agendas, it can definitely influence whatever programs those endorsers have.

Clinton during her campaign for the primary was almost an instant sensation over the donation she got from a big company.
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Mar 22, 2015 8:55 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Happygolucky4u
Happygolucky4uHappygolucky4uTreasure Coast, Florida USA25 Threads 4 Polls 6,241 Posts
lindsyjones: Would you consider Obama a good leader?

Why? If not, why?

Can you please provide practice or policies that support or not?

Being a world leader, is your country affected or not? How?

Thanks all for your participation.
wave Goodmorning! In my opinion there has not been a successful president or a good leader in that office in quite sometime if ever. They all have had their faults and their positives. Yet if we were to be completely honest the United States is run by big Corporate and the dollar makers. At least from where I stand that is what I see. Our presidents have turned into mere puppets blues
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Mar 22, 2015 9:11 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Happygolucky4u: Goodmorning! In my opinion there has not been a successful president or a good leader in that office in quite sometime if ever. They all have had their faults and their positives. Yet if we were to be completely honest the United States is run by big Corporate and the dollar makers. At least from where I stand that is what I see. Our presidents have turned into mere puppets


Happy dear friend, how nice of you to join. How are you?

WEll I wouldn't discredit the fact that OUR COUNTRY WOULD HAVE NEVER ATTAINED WHERE IT IS AND WHAT IT IS NOW had not been for so many good presidents I can enumerate: George Washington, Jefferson, (drafted the declaration of independence) Lincoln, Ted Roosevelt, Kennedy and Reagan come to mind.

Each of these great leaders contributed to the legacy of supporting our unique ideals in terms of freedom and rights. Not to mention our economic power by Kennedy and Reagan and our strength of military and technology.

These libertarian principles but connected to conservatism (CONSTITUTIONAL foundation) are most strength of those leaders that is seemingly taken for granted by the new system.

And yes, THE FEDERAL RESERVE do play in the majority of decisions made to protect their monetary interest. A conflict that will always foreshadow our true practice of effective leadership. (rich versus the interest of the poor)
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Mar 22, 2015 9:15 AM CST Obama's success as president?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
During Obama's campaign he promised he was going to bring all the troops home but obviously didn't.

To me he is just another corporate owned political figure as always.


I also don't believe that no matter who becomes our leader whether it be man or woman that things will continue as they are now.
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