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Jan 31, 2016 10:16 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
galrads: Maybe see things in three dimensions as enlightened people will, and go straight, straight for the heart.......
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Jan 31, 2016 10:18 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
4th dimension God?
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Jan 31, 2016 10:33 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
sophiasummer: 4th dimension God?


dunno maybe Valhalla, Nirvana, heaven, purgatory, hell, earth, wind, fire, water, love
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Jan 31, 2016 10:41 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09New Jersey Girl in, North Carolina USA198 Threads 4 Polls 7,230 Posts
kidatheart: I don't think it should ever be endorsed by law, that would set a very bad precedent. Perhaps giving the state a legal means to eradicate the elderly, indigent, and ill.

It should always be up to the individual, and it should be in writing, of some description, of the individual that wants to end their life, for whatever reason. Failing the ability to do this under their own means, then someone either appointed to the, or their legal counsel, with any and every supporting measure should be made, and held, responsible for their decision.

I would never want anyone to ask for their own life to be taken by anyone, without knowing full well that others will ultimately be resposnsible, in one way oe another. I'd like to see the courts ease their responsibility in a number of ways, and also grant they dying their wish, in a dignified manner, that doesn't affect the living in a negative fashion.

It really should be up to the one that wants to end their life, for whatever reason. Others should have no legal means to interfere, let alone the courts. It really is an individual choice.



I disagree that it should be up to the individual except when a person has a DNR prior to illness.

To suggest that someone should be allowed to end their own life "for whatever reason" isn't sound advice for that person. There are those who are depressed and say they want to die and will make an attempt to die but all they really want is to be out of the pain of their depression. Medication and therapy will help depression.

Euthanasia should be saved for those who are terminally ill not those who want to run away from life. The person who dies is freed of their emotional pain but family and friends will go on believing that their loved one didn't want them in their life anymore. Sometimes that is more painful then the loss of life for those left behind.
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Jan 31, 2016 11:57 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
secretagent09: I disagree that it should be up to the individual except when a person has a DNR prior to illness.

To suggest that someone should be allowed to end their own life "for whatever reason" isn't sound advice for that person. There are those who are depressed and say they want to die and will make an attempt to die but all they really want is to be out of the pain of their depression. Medication and therapy will help depression.

Euthanasia should be saved for those who are terminally ill not those who want to run away from life. The person who dies is freed of their emotional pain but family and friends will go on believing that their loved one didn't want them in their life anymore. Sometimes that is more painful then the loss of life for those left behind.




They who knows shall wager their sins of life.
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Feb 1, 2016 1:33 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
sophiasummer: So tell me,
Where shall I go?
To the left, where nothing's right? Or
to right, where nothings' left

:



You owe a choice to yourself, capable on deciding your fate,
as well to your friends and relatives,if you have the
the legal capacity to decide for any of them.-

handshake
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Feb 1, 2016 1:43 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
galrads: We got to be reading different bibles.



Bloody Greeks wrote 2 bibles.
One for the PRO and
One for CONS,

peace peace peace
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Feb 1, 2016 1:48 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
secretagent09: I disagree that it should be up to the individual except when a person has a DNR prior to illness.

To suggest that someone should be allowed to end their own life "for whatever reason" isn't sound advice for that person. There are those who are depressed and say they want to die and will make an attempt to die but all they really want is to be out of the pain of their depression. Medication and therapy will help depression.

Euthanasia should be saved for those who are terminally ill not those who want to run away from life. The person who dies is freed of their emotional pain but family and friends will go on believing that their loved one didn't want them in their life anymore. Sometimes that is more painful then the loss of life for those left behind.


Good post.
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Feb 1, 2016 1:56 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
chris27292729: You owe a choice to yourself, capable on deciding your fate,
as well to your friends and relatives,if you have the
the legal capacity to decide for any of them.-



Owe is not a choice , like to steal is to circumstances.
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Feb 2, 2016 12:16 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
stringman: king James.
King James??
The one who ordered the bible to be translate in such way,
to suit his believes.????
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Feb 2, 2016 12:53 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
sophiasummer: So tell me,
Where shall I go?
To the left, where nothing's right? Or
to right, where nothings' left

:
I'm going to put this on my fridge! In spite of the irony, it is one of the truest things I've heard in a long time.
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Feb 3, 2016 1:03 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
rohaan: I'm going to put this on my fridge! In spite of the irony, it is one of the truest things I've heard in a long time.

So. what is it for you????
Ethical or Non???
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Feb 3, 2016 3:36 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
2intrigued: Well said and I totally agree with this.



Me too thumbs up
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Feb 3, 2016 4:42 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
Johnny5IA
Johnny5IAJohnny5IAFuengirola, Andalusia Spain39 Threads 1 Polls 721 Posts
serene56: Me too

Well well well, Serene, god I want you!kiss
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Feb 3, 2016 2:54 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,516 Posts
chris27292729: So. what is it for you????
Ethical or Non???
This is possibly one of the wisest questions I have ever been asked. There are so many variables, and having worked in the health care field for many, many years, I must say that I just don't know. In one critical case, one might argue to a reasonable sense of pathetic mercy. Another case might only seem that way, and the outcome possibly be different. Anyone having worked in Hospice knows that these patients sometimes beat the odds and actually go home and are productive members of society again. How disastrous would it be if they were euthanized only because it seemed appropriate? The chance for collusion is certainly in the mix, as well. What if anxious heirs just don't want to wait for Grandpa or Auntie to go, and enlist the help of professionals? (I believe there is every chance of this happening). Do we want to open up a legal reign of terror? The chances of misuse are rampant, and for that reason, I would have to say, overall, unethical. JMO
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Feb 3, 2016 3:23 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729: Bloody Greeks wrote 2 bibles.
One for the PRO and
One for CONS,

yep,them Greeks bearing Gifts again!rolling on the floor laughing beer
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Feb 3, 2016 3:30 PM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
Switzerland has legislatively permitted assisted suicide since 1942. For example, lethal drugs may be prescribed as long as the recipient takes an active role in the drug administration. Euthanasia (such as administering a lethal injection) is not legal and the law does require a physician to be involved.

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Feb 4, 2016 1:10 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
rohaan: This is possibly one of the wisest questions I have ever been asked. There are so many variables, and having worked in the health care field for many, many years, I must say that I just don't know. In one critical case, one might argue to a reasonable sense of pathetic mercy. Another case might only seem that way, and the outcome possibly be different. Anyone having worked in Hospice knows that these patients sometimes beat the odds and actually go home and are productive members of society again. How disastrous would it be if they were euthanized only because it seemed appropriate? The chance for collusion is certainly in the mix, as well. What if anxious heirs just don't want to wait for Grandpa or Auntie to go, and enlist the help of professionals? (I believe there is every chance of this happening). Do we want to open up a legal reign of terror? The chances of misuse are rampant, and for that reason, I would have to say, overall, unethical. JMO

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Thanks. Analytical and to the point.
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Feb 6, 2016 1:38 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
rohaan: This is possibly one of the wisest questions I have ever been asked. There are so many variables, and having worked in the health care field for many, many years, I must say that I just don't know. In one critical case, one might argue to a reasonable sense of pathetic mercy. Another case might only seem that way, and the outcome possibly be different. Anyone having worked in Hospice knows that these patients sometimes beat the odds and actually go home and are productive members of society again. How disastrous would it be if they were euthanized only because it seemed appropriate? The chance for collusion is certainly in the mix, as well. What if anxious heirs just don't want to wait for Grandpa or Auntie to go, and enlist the help of professionals? (I believe there is every chance of this happening). Do we want to open up a legal reign of terror? The chances of misuse are rampant, and for that reason, I would have to say, overall, unethical. JMO


This is the very reason that this should be discussed, to avoid something of that nature. It has to be up to the individual, not anyone else, to decide whether or not their life will be ended by someone else, or with the help of someone else. It should never be up to anyone else, let alone government or medical staff.

I've been through this with family and friends more than once, and if it would have been legal in the past, I get the feeling at least one or two would have chosen this path. Once cancer has spread, being told you're terminal, it's only a matter of time, and knowing this, and knowing what "treatment' you'll face, maybe it's a better option.

Life is precious, but when you know you're going to die, you should be able to choose to die with dignity, and in a manner that causes the least amount of suffering.

sad flower
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Feb 6, 2016 5:18 AM CST Is euthanasia an ethical act.???
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
kidatheart:

Life is precious, but when you know you're going to die, you should be able to choose to die with dignity, and in a manner that causes the least amount of suffering.


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I concur.

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