Would You Do This? (20)
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The psychology of that for individuals would make an interesting discussion.
Personally, I would feel like I was trying to trap a lost loved one, and in not setting them free, inhibit my own grieving process.
There's also a juxtaposition for me in the loved ones time having ended and yet using their remains to keep time.
Others may have an entirely different perspective and I'm curious about that.
I suppose it could be a healing tool as well. Maybe it could be a reminder of good times. Maybe it could be used therapeutically - set aside a hour a week to contemplate feelings of grief in order to progress with them.
It's full of symbolism, I'll give it that.
Personally, I would feel like I was trying to trap a lost loved one, and in not setting them free, inhibit my own grieving process.
There's also a juxtaposition for me in the loved ones time having ended and yet using their remains to keep time.
Others may have an entirely different perspective and I'm curious about that.
I suppose it could be a healing tool as well. Maybe it could be a reminder of good times. Maybe it could be used therapeutically - set aside a hour a week to contemplate feelings of grief in order to progress with them.
It's full of symbolism, I'll give it that.
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Some years ago my ex's father died, they gave the ashes to my ex which sat on the old shelf.
I asked the 3x boys in their 30's "Well what now/"
After some quietness, I suggest lets go to piha, where he loved to fish off the rocks.
we will will go at sunset and climb Lion rock and spread his ashes.
Hard slogger and quite dangerous, but I knew.
So we did!
Awesome!
I asked the 3x boys in their 30's "Well what now/"
After some quietness, I suggest lets go to piha, where he loved to fish off the rocks.
we will will go at sunset and climb Lion rock and spread his ashes.
Hard slogger and quite dangerous, but I knew.
So we did!
Awesome!
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sophiasummer: Some years ago my ex's father died, they gave the ashes to my ex which sat on the old shelf.
I asked the 3x boys in their 30's "Well what now/"
After some quietness, I suggest lets go to piha, where he loved to fish off the rocks.
we will will go at sunset and climb Lion rock and spread his ashes.
Hard slogger and quite dangerous, but I knew.
So we did!
Awesome!
I asked the 3x boys in their 30's "Well what now/"
After some quietness, I suggest lets go to piha, where he loved to fish off the rocks.
we will will go at sunset and climb Lion rock and spread his ashes.
Hard slogger and quite dangerous, but I knew.
So we did!
Awesome!
Thats more like it. Something like that honors the person.
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To use someone's ashes in what manner, Track?
Presumably, this company gets some business, the implication of which is that there are a number of people who like this idea. Each of those people will have their own reasons for wanting to use this service.
Your reasons for finding it a disrespectful use of someone's remains will be unique to you and I'm curious about that.
I find the objects a bit tacky and factory produced and that strikes as being demeaning/disrespectful.
If I found that the frame was hand cut and turned, the glass hand blown and that each piece was a result of dedicated craft, I might change my mind about the aura of tackiness.
If someone deliberately wanted something outrageous and tacky for a not so loved one, maybe even that level of disrespect might facilitate a complex grieving process.
What's that book/film set in Newfoundland where July Dench plays the character who puts her brother's ashes down the latrine and pisses on them? There's that oh so subtle bit of acting where after going to great lengths and deceit to achieve this moment, she realises that it's an anti-climax and changes nothing.
Presumably, this company gets some business, the implication of which is that there are a number of people who like this idea. Each of those people will have their own reasons for wanting to use this service.
Your reasons for finding it a disrespectful use of someone's remains will be unique to you and I'm curious about that.
I find the objects a bit tacky and factory produced and that strikes as being demeaning/disrespectful.
If I found that the frame was hand cut and turned, the glass hand blown and that each piece was a result of dedicated craft, I might change my mind about the aura of tackiness.
If someone deliberately wanted something outrageous and tacky for a not so loved one, maybe even that level of disrespect might facilitate a complex grieving process.
What's that book/film set in Newfoundland where July Dench plays the character who puts her brother's ashes down the latrine and pisses on them? There's that oh so subtle bit of acting where after going to great lengths and deceit to achieve this moment, she realises that it's an anti-climax and changes nothing.
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To be honest , no I wouldn't ...I do however expect to,when my time comes,be cremated ...what they`re gonna do with my ashes after that is really not something I think about ...
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That's actually what he wanted, but the boy's could not sort it so I did.
Climbing up Lion Rock! at 6.00am in the the morning as I said to the boy's ,
it must be sunrise!.
We did it.
They Loved it it!
It was their Dad!.
Ashes blowing, oh blimey.
Cool.
Don't regret the push.
Climbing up Lion Rock! at 6.00am in the the morning as I said to the boy's ,
it must be sunrise!.
We did it.
They Loved it it!
It was their Dad!.
Ashes blowing, oh blimey.
Cool.
Don't regret the push.
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jac_the_gripper: To use someone's ashes in what manner, Track?
Presumably, this company gets some business, the implication of which is that there are a number of people who like this idea. Each of those people will have their own reasons for wanting to use this service.
Your reasons for finding it a disrespectful use of someone's remains will be unique to you and I'm curious about that.
I find the objects a bit tacky and factory produced and that strikes as being demeaning/disrespectful.
If I found that the frame was hand cut and turned, the glass hand blown and that each piece was a result of dedicated craft, I might change my mind about the aura of tackiness.
If someone deliberately wanted something outrageous and tacky for a not so loved one, maybe even that level of disrespect might facilitate a complex grieving process.
What's that book/film set in Newfoundland where July Dench plays the character who puts her brother's ashes down the latrine and pisses on them? There's that oh so subtle bit of acting where after going to great lengths and deceit to achieve this moment, she realises that it's an anti-climax and changes nothing.
Presumably, this company gets some business, the implication of which is that there are a number of people who like this idea. Each of those people will have their own reasons for wanting to use this service.
Your reasons for finding it a disrespectful use of someone's remains will be unique to you and I'm curious about that.
I find the objects a bit tacky and factory produced and that strikes as being demeaning/disrespectful.
If I found that the frame was hand cut and turned, the glass hand blown and that each piece was a result of dedicated craft, I might change my mind about the aura of tackiness.
If someone deliberately wanted something outrageous and tacky for a not so loved one, maybe even that level of disrespect might facilitate a complex grieving process.
What's that book/film set in Newfoundland where July Dench plays the character who puts her brother's ashes down the latrine and pisses on them? There's that oh so subtle bit of acting where after going to great lengths and deceit to achieve this moment, she realises that it's an anti-climax and changes nothing.
The way I look at it is do I want that done to me, and I have to say no I wouldn't, so I wouldn't do it to anyone else.
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sophiasummer: That's actually what he wanted, but the boy's could not sort it so I did.
Climbing up Lion Rock! at 6.00am in the the morning as I said to the boy's ,
it must be sunrise!.
We did it.
They Loved it it!
It was their Dad!.
Ashes blowing, oh blimey.
Cool.
Don't regret the push.
Climbing up Lion Rock! at 6.00am in the the morning as I said to the boy's ,
it must be sunrise!.
We did it.
They Loved it it!
It was their Dad!.
Ashes blowing, oh blimey.
Cool.
Don't regret the push.
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My first, spontaneous thought (when I saw this) was, how terrible! How terrible to put anything of a human in something that is so small. It is already enough that our mind is trapped in our body; one does not have to put ashes into something like a sand glass,
But then I thought, ah, I fell for my own need to proctect the deads and their "wishes." So, I think everybody has maybe to do what comforts him or her most.
Our mom died quite surprisingly three weeks ago. She was cremated, too. When I sat there with my daughter and the family of my sister in the little chapel, I felt it as so wrong that everybody was so sad. My mom faced with 86 years the amputation of her left leg. A few days before she was supposed to be operated she died in her sleep. I don´t want to sound heartless, but I am so glad for her that she does not have to experience an amputation and all little, terrible situations around that, let alone the pain. She did well to go.
For me someone is gone when the body died, but still continues living because he or she was a part of our life, and that had an effect. I am not religious and believe in the evolution.
What I saw in the chapel and on the graveyard made me think that everything of that is only for the ones who are left to comfort them, and it was great that the whole ceremony did comfort. I am glad that it is comforting for my sister.
But when my sister would have wanted to put the ashes of our mom in a sandglass I would have taken her by her hand and would have gone with her to a psychologist. No trap any more, neither for my sister, nor for my mom.
But I think, we are all different, and for some it might be a good comfort to have something like that sand glass at home and so close.
But then I thought, ah, I fell for my own need to proctect the deads and their "wishes." So, I think everybody has maybe to do what comforts him or her most.
Our mom died quite surprisingly three weeks ago. She was cremated, too. When I sat there with my daughter and the family of my sister in the little chapel, I felt it as so wrong that everybody was so sad. My mom faced with 86 years the amputation of her left leg. A few days before she was supposed to be operated she died in her sleep. I don´t want to sound heartless, but I am so glad for her that she does not have to experience an amputation and all little, terrible situations around that, let alone the pain. She did well to go.
For me someone is gone when the body died, but still continues living because he or she was a part of our life, and that had an effect. I am not religious and believe in the evolution.
What I saw in the chapel and on the graveyard made me think that everything of that is only for the ones who are left to comfort them, and it was great that the whole ceremony did comfort. I am glad that it is comforting for my sister.
But when my sister would have wanted to put the ashes of our mom in a sandglass I would have taken her by her hand and would have gone with her to a psychologist. No trap any more, neither for my sister, nor for my mom.
But I think, we are all different, and for some it might be a good comfort to have something like that sand glass at home and so close.
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I want to be turned into a tree rather than an egg-timer!
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Dedovix: To be honest , no I wouldn't ...I do however expect to,when my time comes,be cremated ...what they`re gonna do with my ashes after that is really not something I think about ...
hi Ded/.......your ashes....can you send them to me.....???????I could use them for my cats litter 
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mollybaby: I want to be turned into a tree rather than an egg-timer!
That would be cool. Placed right in the middle of the forest, be awesome.
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I wouldn't do that, it's a death clock. Maybe you could delve deeper and say it represents the cycle of life, turn it upside down and it starts all over again so in a way your loved ones never really leave you, but to me it says death clock.
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mollybaby: I'll stuff my mattress with them so
i like how you think
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Cachuchi: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA my first laugh of today ! thank you Vampire
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No, I won´t do something like that. Too creepy. Gone is gone, period. No point in having a reminder anouncing my own final countdown either, and I think is very disrespectul ....
By maybe something like this......http://www.lifegem.com/ (my ex was a huge guy -no anymore-, we used to laugh with this idea....lol!)
By maybe something like this......http://www.lifegem.com/ (my ex was a huge guy -no anymore-, we used to laugh with this idea....lol!)
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Actually I don't have an issue with that Track 
I guess I feel that once a loved one is gone, their earthly remains aren't the embodiment of who they were, they're simply a comfort for those who are left behind.
My doggie's ashes are in a simple container on my bedside table, alongside a framed photo of him and me and that's my comfort
I guess I feel that once a loved one is gone, their earthly remains aren't the embodiment of who they were, they're simply a comfort for those who are left behind.
My doggie's ashes are in a simple container on my bedside table, alongside a framed photo of him and me and that's my comfort
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