sofarsogood74: Relevant information matters. The route Trayvon took has no relevance at all. Why would it? You are trying to imply he was up to no good as he did not take the most direct route. There are a million reasons a teenager would take the long way home....Talkyng on the phone being just one.roll eyes
Facts are Trayvon was walking home from the store. He was yards from where he was staying when killed. Why confront Zimmerman there? He told his friend he was being followed minutes earlier so why not confront Zimmerman then? His friend said Trayvon said "Get off me". Would you say that to someone you attacked? His friend said Trayvon said Zimmerman was approaching him....totally contrary to what Zimmerman said. Zimmerman told the Police "These PUNKS always get away"...tells you his frame of mind. Zimmermans story doesn't add up but the Jury didn't care about that and now we have people like you trying to tarnish Trayvons name by implying he was up to no good that night
I did not imply that but thank you for your amusing answer
Yes you did! You said "In actuality if you look at the map he did not go the route for a simple trip to the store and home. It was raining and they said he was heading for a place of shelter. Was he? "
Crux of the case? You are always speaking hypothetically. Please continue, and explain why you didn't offer your astute services to the state of prejudice prosecution in Florida, USA.
You weren't there. So why are you so down on Mr. Zimmerman. Is it because he chose to defend himself. Is there anything you said (below) that can convict someone of killing anyone else, of any degree.
The crux of the case is in red. And we only have Zimmermans word that Trayvon attacked him. But Trayvons friends said he was screaming "get off me" and he also said Zimmerman was approaching him!
The fact Zimmerman was following him and told the police "these punks always get away" as well as Trayvons friends evidence makes it more likely Zimmerman was the attacker and Trayvon was defending himself.roll eyes
Crux of the case? You are always speaking hypothetically. Please continue, and explain why you didn't offer your astute services to the state of prejudice prosecution in Florida, USA.
You weren't there. So why are you so down on Mr. Zimmerman. Is it because he chose to defend himself. Is there anything you said (below) that can convict someone of killing anyone else, of any degree.
How many times do I have to repeat this.
We only have Zimmermans word he was defending himself and his word is totally contrary to the evidence Trayvons friend gave. So who was lying? The man who pulled the trigger has more reason to lie so why are you so quick to believe him?
Also his story has many holes...Trayvon was killed yards from where he was staying....why confront Zimmerman yards from his destination when Zimmerman was following him for a while.
His story doesn't add up but you want to believe it even though you only have his word. The word of a man who we all know has a history of violence, was sick of "these punks getting away" and was a wannabe cop.
what happened to the two individuals is a tragedy but when other people try to incite violence that is a crime in itself. i am referring to the report on the internet that the new black panther has just declared war on the police and on caucasions. where is the justice department on this matter and the naacp? eric holder as the attorney general is doing nothing about this crisis. he is nothing more than a activist than the cheif lawman of this nation. there are bad apples in all races but we dont even try to get along to prevent this from ever happen again. also where is the president on this matter?the violence has to stop sometime but i fear it won't. the new black panthers should be labeled as a terrorist organization and should be investigated
Dear mr. Sofarsogood... how many times does anyone have to repeat this, "you were not there". Anything and everything you say is hypothetical regarding accounts of this sad unfortunate event.
"How many times do I have to repeat this.doh
We only have Zimmermans word he was defending himself"
sofarsogood74: Dear Mr. Garland you were not there either so how do you know he was defending himself?
I am going by the evidence and the testimony of Trayvons friend. You are just going on Zimmermans word...Nothing else!
Sir, Trevars friend's testimony did not convict Zimmerman. All you do with your posts here is try and incite racial hatred, like the media and the far left hating loons here do. You speak from speculation, bigotry and hatred.
garland: Sir, Trevars friend's testimony did not convict Zimmerman. All you do with your posts here is try and incite racial hatred, like the media and the far left hating loons here do. You speak from speculation, bigotry and hatred
Just when I think you cant get any more stupid you surprise me.
I know her evidence didn't convict him....I am wondering why you and the Jury would take Zimmermans word over hers. Because you have made your mind up as did the jury all on the word of Zimmerman. Nothing else.
But he had most reason to lie. So why would you believe him over Trayvons friend?
And you say I speak from bigotry. I was not the one laughing at the death of a child and I am not so quick to belive the shooting of a black child was self defence.
sofarsogood74: Just when I think you cant get any more stupid you surprise me.
I know her evidence didn't convict him....I am wondering why you and the Jury would take Zimmermans word over hers. Because you have made your mind up as did the jury all on the word of Zimmerman. Nothing else.
But he had most reason to lie. So why would you believe him over Trayvons friend?
And you say I speak from bigotry. I was not the one laughing at the death of a child and I am not so quick to belive the shooting of a black child was self defence.
But you seem to think his word is good enough.
Again am I the Bigot?
Well, I'm surprised you can be surprised. Now, be nice to people and quit your prejudice ways. Enjoy life, for get your hatred.
Is it not you who thinks that Zimmermans word that he was attacked by a black youth is good enough and Trayvons black friend was lying in court. And I'm the prejudice one?
I do know the meaning of the word. Well it can have a few meanings. One being an unfavorable opinion of something which is the one I was referring to with you!
But if you're talking about having an opinion without all the facts you would be wrong to...because all the facts are in the public domain. And I have formed my opinion on them. You have formed yours on Zimmermans word....that's it!
sofarsogood74: Yes you did! You said "In actuality if you look at the map he did not go the route for a simple trip to the store and home. It was raining and they said he was heading for a place of shelter. Was he? "
You know what you were implying and so do
See that is like the news. Pick what they want to show and leave the rest out. If you read the whole post and comprehended what you were reading then you would know I was implying that no one knows what really happened that night. I take it you are amongst the mind reader category. You seem to have what is known as tunnel vision. You only see what you want to see. Have no time in my life for that have a good life. You can have the last word means nothing to me
sofarsogood74: I do know the meaning of the word. Well it can have a few meanings. One being an unfavorable opinion of something which is the one I was referring to with you!
But if you're talking about having an opinion without all the facts you would be wrong to too...because all the facts are in the public domain. And I have formed my opinion on them. You have formed yours on Zimmermans word....that's it!
.. you are always, "making a decision before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case." You seem to be be a very hateful person. Look inside. Ask yourself, "Why do you hate so much?"
theusername: See that is like the news. Pick what they want to show and leave the rest out. If you read the whole post and comprehended what you were reading then you would know I was implying that no one knows what really happened that night. roll eyes I take it you are amongst the mind reader category. You seem to have what is known as tunnel vision. You only see what you want to see. Have no time in my life for that have a good life. You can have the last word means nothing to me.
You are 100% right in saying nobody knows what happened that night. So then we must make our conclusions from the evidence should we not?
So we have Zimmermans word, the man who was following the kid and shot him.....Or we have the word of the victims friends and circumstantial evidence. For some reason Zimmermans word outweighed the latter.
Wonder if the kid was white and from a high income family and his friend was the same would the jury have came to the same decision? Would you be asking why the VICTIM did't take a direct route to the store and home?
sofarsogood74: You are 100% right in saying nobody knows what happened that night. So then we must make our conclusions from the evidence should we not?
So we have Zimmermans word, the man who was following the kid and shot him.....Or we have the word of the victims friends and circumstantial evidence. For some reason Zimmermans word outweighed the latter.
Wonder if the kid was white and from a high income family and his friend was the same would the jury have came to the same decision? Would you be asking why the VICTIM did't take a direct route to the store and home?
I very much doubt it.
we need a new CS emoticon for you to speak hate stirring. That's how most of the world see's your hate comments on CS anyways.
theusername: . you are always, "making a decision before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case." You seem to be be a very hateful person. Look inside. Ask yourself, "Why do you hate so much?
But all the facts are in the public domain....so how would I not be aware of them all.
And who do I hate so much? Killers of kids?
Why are you so quick to believe the word of a man who shot a unarmed black kid.....that's what you should ask yourself....It's not me full of hatred.
But you American/Italians are never prejudice towards another race...are you.
But i'll check in tomorrow. If anyone wants to answer my question why Zimmermans word outweighs Trayvons friends evidence and the circumstantial evidence I would be grateful.
But I am sure the same people will ignore that question as they know their answer would show them for what they are!
Deluxe_in_heels: If TM was on top of GZ bashing his skull into the concrete, why wasn't GZ's dna under TM's nails?
To the fonts calling TM a "thug" and "trash"; Don't forget about Zimmerman's prior offenses (domestic violence, resisting arrest, fighting with a cop)....but that's ok, right?
The fact is GZ was a definite contributor to the circumstances that lead to the loss of TM; and so he should not be allowed to simply walk away free and get his gun back...
He created a hostile confrontational atmosphere in the dark with a complete (innocent) stranger, and ended up taking the life of a scared kid who was fighting to protect himself.
Zimmerman was found not guilty in a court of law... but I'm sure his guilty conscience is eating him alive.
It's true. Zimmerman was a hot head, with a less than stellar past himself. And old enough to know better.
sofarsogood74: The crux of the case is in red. And we only have Zimmermans word that Trayvon attacked him. But Trayvons friends said he was screaming "get off me" and he also said Zimmerman was approaching him!
The fact Zimmerman was following him and told the police "these punks always get away" as well as Trayvons friends evidence makes it more likely Zimmerman was the attacker and Trayvon was defending himself.
I think this might really be what happened. There was nobody to witness who jumped who first, and Zimmerman may have started it, with Trayvon ending up on top of his attacker.
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Facts are Trayvon was walking home from the store.
He was yards from where he was staying when killed. Why confront Zimmerman there?
He told his friend he was being followed minutes earlier so why not confront Zimmerman then?
His friend said Trayvon said "Get off me". Would you say that to someone you attacked?
His friend said Trayvon said Zimmerman was approaching him....totally contrary to what Zimmerman said.
Zimmerman told the Police "These PUNKS always get away"...tells you his frame of mind.
Zimmermans story doesn't add up but the Jury didn't care about that and now we have people like you trying to tarnish Trayvons name by implying he was up to no good that night