Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin/Who ever (826)

I just posted a report of an example of that kind of call Hugz (see above).

This one was interesting;



McCain Robocalls: Obama Is a Baby-Killing, America-ignoring, Hollywood-loving, Terrorist-Loving ...

...anti-Obama robocalls being made by the McCain/Palin campaign with the RNC.

One of them (listen HERE) says:

"I'm calling on behalf of John McCain and the RNC because you need to know that Barack Obama and his Democrat allies in the Illinois Senate opposed a bill requiring doctors to care for babies born alive after surviving attempted abortions -- a position at odds even with John Kerry and Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama and his liberal Democrats are too extreme for America. Please vote -- vote for the candidates who share our values. This call was paid for by McCain-Palin 2008 and the Republican National Committee at 202 863 8500."

Another (listen HERE) says "Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats got caught putting Hollywood above America. On the very day our elected leaders gathered in Washington to deal with the financial crisis, Barack Obama spent just 20 minutes with economic advisers, but hours at a celebrity Hollywood fundraiser. Where are the Democrats' priorities?"

A third (listen HERE) says, "Barack Obama and his fellow Democrats aren't who you think they are. They say they want to keep us safe, but Barack Obama said the threat we face now from terrorism is nowhere near as dire as it was in the end of the Cold War. And Congressional Democrats now want to give civil rights to terrorists."

A fourth (listen HERE) says, "You need to know that Barack Obama has worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, whose organization bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, a judge's home, and killed Americans. And Democrats will enact an extreme leftist agenda if they take control of Washington. Barack Obama and his Democratic allies lack the judgment to lead our country."...

Those are the ones I posted about that day..the ones infiltrating politics and every other important institution to ensure theirs views get implemented...The Christian Right....

What is illegal about this is that they receive a tax exempt status as a religious/charitable organization.

By doing this they are stepping out from that umbrella and becoming s political organization so they should loose their tax exemption, but they don't.

From a Christian standpoint they are being pretty hateful I think.

I Know I posted a whole article about their history and stuff and the things they are trying to do now to ensure their views get implemented...obtaining political positions..positions in schools...small town governments...etc....and no I would never call them a Christian organization... would call them a hate organization...they are political and and at the very very least activists...and there is no way they should have any kind of exemptions at all....

Sky, thanks for your comments.

You did however point out again =what Sarah Palin said. She said palling around with a terrorist and the intent was clearly linking him and Ayres. What people choose to read into it is up to them.

Your other comments on Palin are your own thought out assessments of her and are valid. I may not agree but at least they are not inflamatory.

Now don't even go there Sky. 99% of these ads on tv are from left-wing organizations with their "best face" put on the ads.

I think ACORN should lose it's tax exempt status. It won't happen under Barak obiously, he's in their tank.

Why isn't the Christian left ever pointed out?

I just need to have this said, from me to you, not any one else’s opinion (as I know of)

Obama may very well win this election; it is still to be seen.

But your posts here are not one of the reasons, I am still trying to sort out what you have said Obama & co is offering compared to what you say McCain & co have done in the past and will do in the future.

For political lobbying, you have a distance to go - I envy your persistence, but I honestly feel it is like watching one of those Idol shows.

Stay clear of throwing all this crap on the other camp and go into detail why you think Obama is a good thing to have. It could be interesting to read, not this.

Have you ever spent a thought on what Obama needs to face if heading the government? No political programme can solve this in a short time, and the one to take the seat now will be the one blamed later for failed tries. Such will probably be the history of Obama’s first and maybe only period as president.

It could be better tactics to let the other side to the dirty works now and work to get Obama seated in the next period, until then he have had time to build up a more solid CV with experience of political work at the senate.

My thought, and I am not even in the hot zone…

"En Tuborg hver dag"

And, dude, you never did read my posts, did you?

Finally, the Religious Right even seeks to influence foreign policy. In American Theocracy, Kevin Phillips argues that Bush has been unduly influenced in his Middle East policy by fundamentalist end-times theology and that the president views himself as some sort of instrument of God’s wrath. Many Religious Right leaders believe that a certain scenario must play out in the Middle East in order for biblical prophecies to be fulfilled. They often try to fit current events to match what they see as biblical commands and insist that foreign policy be guided by this controversial interpretation of scripture.

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Americans United Executive Director Barry W. Lynn has monitored Religious Right organizations since Falwell’s rise. He has debated prominent Religious Right leaders in the media and public forums. Lynn urges Americans never to be complacent about the goals of this movement.

“The Religious Right is about control,” Lynn said. “From monitoring the Religious Right for so many years, I’ve come to the conclusion that many of its leaders and followers really believe that the American people are not to be trusted with religious freedom, that they might make the ‘wrong’ choice by failing to embrace fundamentalism.”

Continued Lynn, “The Religious Right seeks to reorder society by insisting that the country embrace a rigid set of rules based on a narrow definition of Chris­tianity. The movement’s leaders would use the power of government to force all of us to follow its dictates. This is the Religious Right’s greatest mistake – and its biggest threat.”


This is just an excerpt...cause it's too long...here's the link:

She may be warming up Dude but the fat lady has yet began to sing. As the old saying goes, don't count your eggs before they're hatched. You may inadvertantly give a false sense of security to those Obama supports and they may not even bother to vote thinking Obama has it sealed up. On second thought, keep on going... OBAMA has won, OBAMA has one, Yipeeeeee

Well that's just as scary and only highlights the need for the separation of church and state!!!!!!!!

Oh that’s ok I didn't think anyone was ignoring me and I am not giving up, it just pisses me off every election we all go threw the same thing, we listen to both sides and both sides tear each other apart. They never agree on one thing they can't otherwise it wouldn't make for a very good or interesting race for the American People.

Also if they are a true Republican it wouldn't matter to them what the Democratic Party said no matter if it would actually be a better thing for them, they would vote Republican no matter what it might cause them and vice versus with Democrat’s.

Also about all this hype on the Christian out look on this Champaign is just like all the rest of the hype. This one saying this and this one saying something else about it, it is just one playing against another to get people all stirred up, and it is working by reading this forum.


I VOTE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE LETS TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!