jvaski: I appreciate your honesty Wish. I would warn you " Be careful what you wish for" and , you may think the odds are you won't be subject to McCain's pro-life laws . But sometimes we are the 1% who get caught . I realize no politician has our desires in 100% compliance .
That problem pales in comparison to the overall well being of the country. We have much bigger problems with the size and capability of our current government.
I don't want to fight either, but prefer a good debate. This thread is all yours.
WhatUwish4: That problem pales in comparison to the overall well being of the country. We have much bigger problems with the size and capability of our current government.
I don't want to fight either, but prefer a good debate. This thread is all yours.
But just look at where this government has gotten us !! Do you think honestly that McCain will be different than what we have now ???? Be Honest .........!
jvaski: But just look at where this government has gotten us !! Do you think honestly that McCain will be different than what we have now ???? Be Honest .........!
At the risk of seeing you fly off the handle, my answer is a resounding "yes." But what is even worse is the thought of Obama getting in there and growing the government even more. They cannot handle what they have, and it just gives rise to more confusion and corruption.
jvaski: Ok, let's see here .........Next ! Hi Kansan ! You're up ........... ask me some questions that I missed and I'll try to answer you honestly. If I seem offensive , it's because I have a passion to get people to think outside the box . But, no, I think you're probably a good guy and very worthy .................. go ahead
Weeeellll... I hate to make more work for you, but you might go back and take a look at the questions I asked of you earlier today.
Seems to me that so far - though you've made several responses to me - the only question you've actually answered is the one I asked about why you're always on the offensive.
Soooo, take your time and do it point by point - I seldom ask questions that I don't want straight, honest answers to - and I'll happily read your answers in the tomorrow a.m.. (In the mean time, my body is trying to tell me that I'm still recuperating from surgery and should probably rack out soon.)
Looking forward to some good, intelligent reading in the morning!
WhatUwish4: At the risk of seeing you fly off the handle, my answer is a resounding "yes." But what is even worse is the thought of Obama getting in there and growing the government even more. They cannot handle what they have, and it just gives rise to more confusion and corruption.
Ducking out now...
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !!! @#$%^&*()@#$%^!!!!!! , ( taking my pulse and blood pressure ) Ok, four deep breaths now ........... In.....Out ......In..........Out ....etc .... That's it, I'm outta here for now too................. my ulcer is flaring up again over this stress !! LOL ! Kanasn buddy , I haven't forgotten you .........................
The_Kansan: Weeeellll... I hate to make more work for you, but you might go back and take a look at the questions I asked of you earlier today.
Seems to me that so far - though you've made several responses to me - the only question you've actually answered is the one I asked about why you're always on the offensive.
Soooo, take your time and do it point by point - I seldom ask questions that I don't want straight, honest answers to - and I'll happily read your answers in the tomorrow a.m.. (In the mean time, my body is trying to tell me that I'm still recuperating from surgery and should probably rack out soon.)
Looking forward to some good, intelligent reading in the morning!
ttom500: You must be the last person on the planet that believes the polls at this point.
I saw a NBC small group survey that was being done during the Biden/Palin debate. Want to know how they were judging if the people were happy with an answer or reply?
Facial muscle movement. Yep. That is right. They were taking a video of thier faces....if some one smiled or frowned.....that was how they were judging if they like/dislikes the debate at that point.
LOL
Now the next part is little hard to grasp. They are not taking video of all the 26 survey group at the same time.....they letting the cameraman pan to the one that is most obvious happy or angry ........so it like taking a single response video of a statement.....and saying in this survey group of 26......hey found the answers to be ______(you fill in the blank).
The methodology and the technique of doing such a survey is garbage.
But NBC had it on prime time morning.....
So Dude at this point....when you site polls and surveys.....this boy is not listening.
As force of good and prosperity.....seems that Obama is the number two in the money taking lists from the failed Fannie Mea...yep your boy ranked in money from them the last couple of years while they were going deep 6. We know he hired the CEO of the Fannie for a campaign manager. We know he was in play with Resyko. Only time, Dude...only time...till the house of cards falls on Senator Obama.
I think that he up to his keister in bad note making deals from the failed firms. The FBI has most of the Fannie files sealed for the investigation. But they left some files open to the public......
If the polls don't count, why did McCain drop Michigan, on what basis if not the polls?
ttom500: You must be the last person on the planet that believes the polls at this point.
I saw a NBC small group survey that was being done during the Biden/Palin debate. Want to know how they were judging if the people were happy with an answer or reply?
Facial muscle movement. Yep. That is right. They were taking a video of thier faces....if some one smiled or frowned.....that was how they were judging if they like/dislikes the debate at that point.
LOL
Now the next part is little hard to grasp. They are not taking video of all the 26 survey group at the same time.....they letting the cameraman pan to the one that is most obvious happy or angry ........so it like taking a single response video of a statement.....and saying in this survey group of 26......hey found the answers to be ______(you fill in the blank).
The methodology and the technique of doing such a survey is garbage.
But NBC had it on prime time morning.....
So Dude at this point....when you site polls and surveys.....this boy is not listening.
As force of good and prosperity.....seems that Obama is the number two in the money taking lists from the failed Fannie Mea...yep your boy ranked in money from them the last couple of years while they were going deep 6. We know he hired the CEO of the Fannie for a campaign manager. We know he was in play with Resyko. Only time, Dude...only time...till the house of cards falls on Senator Obama.
I think that he up to his keister in bad note making deals from the failed firms. The FBI has most of the Fannie files sealed for the investigation. But they left some files open to the public......
Maybe we should just wait for the investigation.............. sounds reasonable to me ! But all the poles can't be wrong ......... I heard Obama has a 7% lead minimun
The_Kansan: Weeeellll... I hate to make more work for you, but you might go back and take a look at the questions I asked of you earlier today.
Seems to me that so far - though you've made several responses to me - the only question you've actually answered is the one I asked about why you're always on the offensive.
Soooo, take your time and do it point by point - I seldom ask questions that I don't want straight, honest answers to - and I'll happily read your answers in the tomorrow a.m.. (In the mean time, my body is trying to tell me that I'm still recuperating from surgery and should probably rack out soon.)
Looking forward to some good, intelligent reading in the morning!
Ok, I did scroll back and didn't find any un-answered questions per say, just alot of bantering back and forth by both of us. No problemo aqui , I will catch up with you in the morning - and we'll resume in a gentlemanly like manner................. rest well .
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FreeHappy: If the polls don't count, why did McCain drop Michigan, on what basis if not the polls?
FreeHappy...all the polls are 'unofficial' until Nov 4th. And the methodology of the one that being takens now is question.
I could site more than just the survery group. The pollster are doing a lot of polling....not just for the Presidency...but also all the Senate/ House and State elections as well.
So what I have seen is they cut down the sample sizes....they are doing nationwide polls of 2500-3000 and giving a = or- of 3-4%. The present voter pool in the US is about 175m.........you wish to tell me that a sample of 3000 gives you a accurate picture of 175m? of which over a 100m will vote?
That is why I am not placing much stock in them.
On Michigan...I think that is was also money and resources. Personally, I would not have made it public, if I was McCain. I would have just reduced the commercials and the time spent. Palin said the same even.
So I don't think that it was just bad polls there. They were a factor, yes. But not the only reason.
ttom500: FreeHappy...all the polls are 'unofficial' until Nov 4th. And the methodology of the one that being takens now is question.
I could site more than just the survery group. The pollster are doing a lot of polling....not just for the Presidency...but also all the Senate/ House and State elections as well.
So what I have seen is they cut down the sample sizes....they are doing nationwide polls of 2500-3000 and giving a = or- of 3-4%. The present voter pool in the US is about 175m.........you wish to tell me that a sample of 3000 gives you a accurate picture of 175m? of which over a 100m will vote?
That is why I am not placing much stock in them.
On Michigan...I think that is was also money and resources. Personally, I would not have made it public, if I was McCain. I would have just reduced the commercials and the time spent. Palin said the same even.
So I don't think that it was just bad polls there. They were a factor, yes. But not the only reason.
You're right not making leaving his Michigan public. I think McCain jumps to conclusions way too fast and acts without thinking or getting feedback. He is stubborn and headstrong. He makes quick decisions that make him look foolish. How could anyone want him to represent the United States?
I like watching the polls, I know they are samples but they are derived from too many numbers. I just like watching them.
mbcasey: SNL 's opening skit was kind of funny. Palin's talent portion with the flute was hillarious!
They really butchered Palin. That may backfire because people are finding her endearing and alot like them.
Every time she has a good outing, like the VP debate......the people watching the hack job of the SNL, Lettermans, and Lenos....get just a little more angry.
Palin is the home town girl and the girl that lives across the street. So how do you attack and make fun of that?
I have to admit. Biden escaped without falling into any hole or stepping on any land mine in the debate. There were a lot of both strung out in front of him.
I guess nearly 30 years in the Senate will teach you something.....even if you cannot get the clause of the constitution right on the what the role of the VP is, whom you have been looking at for nearly 30 years.
Kind of reminds one of Obama's explanation of Rev. Wright. Maybe is some kind of disfunctional DEM gene. You forget the charateristics and role of anyone that leads an assembly. :-)
jvaski: Ok, I did scroll back and didn't find any un-answered questions per say, just alot of bantering back and forth by both of us. No problemo aqui , I will catch up with you in the morning - and we'll resume in a gentlemanly like manner................. rest well .
Ok... Here's a hint: Anytime a sentence has a little thingy at the end of it that looks like this ? . Well, that means it's a question. Sometimes you have to look for them because they might be stuck in with several other sentences in what is called a paragraph.
Then again, sometimes questions can be in the form of statements which are made in the hopes that another person will respond to them point by point with their own statements, called replies - these don't usually have the little ? thingy, but a response is generally expected nonetheless.
Sometimes, even when a ? or series of ?'s is asked and then answered by the person doing the talking (or typing, in this case), it is still hoped that the person being talked (or typed) to will go ahead and give his/her own answers to refute or confirm the other person's answers. Of course, this is not always the case, but it is in this particular case.
There are also things called rhetorical questions, i.,e., "What if there were no rhetorical questions? or, If your knees bent the other way, what would a chair look like?, etc..." which usually cannot be answered, but are instead designed simply to make someone think. But I don't ask many of those and simply mentioned them so that you would know that they do indeed exist.
But, to keep things simple for you, I'll only ask for answers to the sentences with the little ? thingy at the end. Okay?
Here's one now: Do you understand, now, what a question is? (That's not rhetorical - I really do want an honest, polite answer.)
And another one - this is a two parter: Exactly what box is it that you keep trying to think outside of - and has it ever occured to you that some of us might have made a habit of thinking so far "outside the box" that it never occured to us that there might actually be a box to think inside of? (I would also like an honest, polite and thoughtful answer to this - just trying to understand your mindset.)
The_Kansan: Ok... Here's a hint: Anytime a sentence has a little thingy at the end of it that looks like this ? . Well, that means it's a question. Sometimes you have to look for them because they might be stuck in with several other sentences in what is called a paragraph .
Then again, sometimes questions can be in the form of statements which are made in the hopes that another person will respond to them point by point with their own statements, called replies - these don't usually have the little ? thingy, but a response is generally expected nonetheless.
Sometimes, even when a ? or series of ?'s is asked and then answered by the person doing the talking (or typing, in this case), it is still hoped that the person being talked (or typed) to will go ahead and give his/her own answers to refute or confirm the other person's answers. Of course, this is not always the case, but it is in this particular case.
There are also things called rhetorical questions, i.,e., "What if there were no rhetorical questions? or, If your knees bent the other way, what would a chair look like?, etc..." which usually cannot be answered, but are instead designed simply to make someone think. But I don't ask many of those and simply mentioned them so that you would know that they do indeed exist.
But, to keep things simple for you, I'll only ask for answers to the sentences with the little ? thingy at the end. Okay?
Here's one now: Do you understand, now, what a question is? (That's not rhetorical - I really do want an honest, polite answer.)
And another one - this is a two parter: Exactly what box is it that you keep trying to think outside of - and has it ever occured to you that some of us might have made a habit of thinking so far "outside the box" that it never occured to us that there might actually be a box to think inside of? (I would also like an honest, polite and thoughtful answer to this - just trying to understand your mindset.)
Hey Kansan, in all fairness, that first question didn't have the little ? thingy. By default, that does not make it a valid question.
On a serious note, I hope you're feeling better soon.
Sparky55: Hey Kansan, in all fairness, that first question didn't have the little ? thingy. By default, that does not make it a valid question.
On a serious note, I hope you're feeling better soon.
Hey Sparks! How's it going?
The "slip" (that wasn't really a slip) was because it was a two part question and I didn't feel the need for superfluous ? thingies.
And thanks! I get a little better each day and I'm trying to be patient (no pun intended!) but it's a little frustrating when you're used to doing/going/lifting whatever needs done/gone/lifted and suddenly reduced to nearly invalid status. (I had to have Jackson help me put my shoes on the other day and it nearly broke my heart! )
The_Kansan: Ok... Here's a hint: Anytime a sentence has a little thingy at the end of it that looks like this ? . Well, that means it's a question. Sometimes you have to look for them because they might be stuck in with several other sentences in what is called a paragraph .
Then again, sometimes questions can be in the form of statements which are made in the hopes that another person will respond to them point by point with their own statements, called replies - these don't usually have the little ? thingy, but a response is generally expected nonetheless.
Sometimes, even when a ? or series of ?'s is asked and then answered by the person doing the talking (or typing, in this case), it is still hoped that the person being talked (or typed) to will go ahead and give his/her own answers to refute or confirm the other person's answers. Of course, this is not always the case, but it is in this particular case.
There are also things called rhetorical questions, i.,e., "What if there were no rhetorical questions? or, If your knees bent the other way, what would a chair look like?, etc..." which usually cannot be answered, but are instead designed simply to make someone think. But I don't ask many of those and simply mentioned them so that you would know that they do indeed exist.
But, to keep things simple for you, I'll only ask for answers to the sentences with the little ? thingy at the end. Okay?
Here's one now: Do you understand, now, what a question is? (That's not rhetorical - I really do want an honest, polite answer.)
And another one - this is a two parter: Exactly what box is it that you keep trying to think outside of - and has it ever occured to you that some of us might have made a habit of thinking so far "outside the box" that it never occured to us that there might actually be a box to think inside of? (I would also like an honest, polite and thoughtful answer to this - just trying to understand your mindset.)
Ha ! You get me laughing pretty hard here Kansan......... thanks , I needed that ! Yea, that gall bladder stuff is nice to have behind you, I had a HIDA scan a few months ago .....thought I was going to toss my cookies on the radiologist ..............
Hey, I think I know what "? " means , but could we go over it again ?? Did we have some interaction on another thread ? Or , did I miss your questions on this one ? I'll look again , but I'm packing and leaving for vacation today - so priorities are re-aligned for that. If it's any consolation, if I don't you answered today , I'll certainly be thinking about how to do that while I'm rolling off the side of a panga with a tank on ! Wink Wink !
jvaski: Ha ! You get me laughing pretty hard here Kansan......... thanks , I needed that ! Yea, that gall bladder stuff is nice to have behind you, I had a HIDA scan a few months ago .....thought I was going to toss my cookies on the radiologist ..............
Hey, I think I know what "? " means , but could we go over it again ?? Did we have some interaction on another thread ? Or , did I miss your questions on this one ? I'll look again , but I'm packing and leaving for vacation today - so priorities are re-aligned for that. If it's any consolation, if I don't you answered today , I'll certainly be thinking about how to do that while I'm rolling off the side of a panga with a tank on ! Wink Wink !
Wow! That was slick! No wonder you're voting for Obama - You handled that exactly the same way he would have; If you don't know the answers - or the answers you want to give aren't the truth, but you don't want to get caught in a lie, or you can't be bothered to do a little research - you simply pretend they were never asked.
Damn, you're good! You should be a politician! Especially with that part about "thinking about how to answer them while" <you're on an expensive vacation>. Very cool! (But hasn't anybody told you that you've got too much money to make a really good Democrat?)
Just kiddin' (almost!) Have fun and ignore the bubbles!
Oh, and please don't wink at me - It's for your own good! (Folks might take it wrong and think you're queer for my gear and it'd ruin your stud muffin standing. )
As if these Linertarians Ever wanting Any thing Else than another Bushney on power
Libertarianas are there just to confuse the voters and they always endorsing conservatives and this matter is so certain all over the western world ......
But ok I have told this before several times and most others knowing this Fact very well already.
jvaski: Ok, let's see here .........Next ! Hi Kansan ! You're up ........... ask me some questions that I missed and I'll try to answer you honestly. If I seem offensive , it's because I have a passion to get people to think outside the box . But, no, I think you're probably a good guy and very worthy .................. go ahead
jvaski: Ha ! You get me laughing pretty hard here Kansan......... thanks , I needed that ! Yea, that gall bladder stuff is nice to have behind you, I had a HIDA scan a few months ago .....thought I was going to toss my cookies on the radiologist ..............
Hey, I think I know what "? " means , but could we go over it again ?? Did we have some interaction on another thread ? Or , did I miss your questions on this one ? I'll look again , but I'm packing and leaving for vacation today - so priorities are re-aligned for that. If it's any consolation, if I don't you answered today , I'll certainly be thinking about how to do that while I'm rolling off the side of a panga with a tank on ! Wink Wink !
I take vacations too when I'm out of work and living off credit cards.
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That problem pales in comparison to the overall well being of the country. We have much bigger problems with the size and capability of our current government.
I don't want to fight either, but prefer a good debate. This thread is all yours.