Singlelisious: I tip depending on the service...I remember my accounting professor told us that if the service is bad leave a penny..the message is your service worth a penny for a tip,,that lousy. I have done it few times.
truheart1941: starbucks are the worst....they dont pay tax...in this country......they pay it into another company (which they owen)...then get it back...a right fiddle.
Amazon are the same and google and god only knows how many more. I'd spit feathers before I went into Starbucks .. They make me the lot of them.. .....
tomcatwarne: It is not usually the custom to tip in the UK, as the service charge is usually included. I don't usually tip in the UK, but in other countries, where it is the custom, albeit the way of life to tip, including the US, I would tip, but only 15%.
I wonder how long your cheap tipping would last in the USA? Twenty percent is pretty much the norm here. I've seen a lot of restaurants lately, actually provide a math-free bill to make it easier to calculate a tip. The bill includes a spreadsheet with your bill that discloses what 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 etc percent of your bill is.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: I wonder how long your cheap tipping would last in the USA? Twenty percent is pretty much the norm here. I've seen a lot of restaurants lately, actually provide a math-free bill to make it easier to calculate a tip. The bill includes a spreadsheet with your bill that discloses what 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 etc percent of your bill is.
I usually give a good tip like showgirl, in the 4;30 race.
2girlsnocup: A lot of restaurants pay below the minimum wage, then guilt trip the customers into mandatory tipping. How is that even acceptable?I refuse to tip if it's a mandatory one included on the bill, but will put a tip on the table as I leave that will cover what I thought they deserved. I won't be forced to pay a standard tip, if the food and service was terrible and I make that clear as I'm led to the table.
tipping is encourage by the owners, so they don't have to pay
a decent salary to employees, remember these persons are getting paid for their work, but with such a low salary
2girlsnocup: A lot of restaurants pay below the minimum wage, then guilt trip the customers into mandatory tipping. How is that even acceptable?I refuse to tip if it's a mandatory one included on the bill, but will put a tip on the table as I leave that will cover what I thought they deserved. I won't be forced to pay a standard tip, if the food and service was terrible and I make that clear as I'm led to the table.
I almost always tip, but I don't set a particular percentage. I did work in the industry in several capacities, and find some unequal idiosyncrasies there. For instance, a dishwasher and/or busboy, or side-prep cook often works far harder than a waiter or waitress, but only receive a tiny part of the tip, if at all. I also have a problem with the percentage going up all the time. First, it was ten percent, then fifteen, and now it is twenty to twenty-five. (I say that as the restaurant prices go up, so does the tip. If we were to embrace this trend of constantly raising the percentage, shall we then one day pay one hundred percent in tip? Kind of nonsense.) Also, I cannot believe the scam of adding a thirty percent gratuity to a banquet or conference lunch/dinner. The defense is that it is a large group. In my observation and experience, this would be EASIER for everyone working, not more difficult! Suppose there are 40 people at the banquet. It would be far more difficult to have them scattered all over the restaurant, and, often a banquet is easier because it is the same dinner for all. What a scam to say it is more difficult. Here are some tips for the tipper: Did your waiter do really well and you want to tip him? Leave a cash tip, not on the credit bill. Also, a group "gratuity" does not go to the servers, it goes to the restaurant. The only tip they get is what people leave at the table. Isn't this picking your pocket twice? The place, I mean, not the waiters. I suggest finding out ahead of time if a place charges a gratuity for group lunches, then decline that venue and tell them WHY. If enough people do this, they will get the picture.
rohaan: Also, I cannot believe the scam of adding a thirty percent gratuity to the servers, it goes to the restaurant. The only tip they get is what people leave at the table. Isn't this picking your pocket twice? The place, I mean, not the waiters. I suggest finding out ahead of time if a place charges a gratuity for group lunches, then decline that venue and tell them WHY. If enough people do this, they will get the picture.
Oh, I almost forgot. Some states do not allow the employer to pay less. In Oregon, waiters, bar help, et al, get our minimum wage, which is one of the highest (surpasses federal) ones around. It is about 10.00 an hour. So, a good waiter or waitress can reasonably make 250.00 to 300.00 a week as well as the wage. Not bad. And, I am not against people earning a great wage, but I just have to say this: There are many, many people who work far harder than a waiter or waitress for minimum or close to minimum wage who do not get a tip. Think about that. A tip should be just that. Not an expectation.
2girlsnocup: A lot of restaurants pay below the minimum wage, then guilt trip the customers into mandatory tipping. How is that even acceptable?I refuse to tip if it's a mandatory one included on the bill, but will put a tip on the table as I leave that will cover what I thought they deserved. I won't be forced to pay a standard tip, if the food and service was terrible and I make that clear as I'm led to the table.
what these workers deserve is better salaries, most of them are
students, single parents or just their way of living
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
2girlsnocup: A lot of restaurants pay below the minimum wage, then guilt trip the customers into mandatory tipping. How is that even acceptable?I refuse to tip if it's a mandatory one included on the bill, but will put a tip on the table as I leave that will cover what I thought they deserved. I won't be forced to pay a standard tip, if the food and service was terrible and I make that clear as I'm led to the table.
According to the service I will tip and only directly to the person waiting on , not a contribution to the jar of coins ye sometimes see on bar/restaurant counters which may or may not be divided between staff .
Can someone explain why sandwich makers at Subway Restaurants (fast food) expect to be tipped? There is a tip container at the cash register of a Subway in my city. It's not a full-service restaurant and the customer has to stand in line, and also stand waiting for the employees to make your sandwich and/or salads. As a customer, you don't even have a chance to sit while waiting. lol
This is in Oregon, so employees are paid a high minimum wage. As for how good the service is, how can an employee mess up on making a sub, when as a customer, you tell them exactly how to make it for you. If you order a beverage, you have to fix it yourself.
The prices aren't really cheap there either, if you order beverage, chips, etc. adds on the total bill.
A restaurant l will but something like a taxi l will not, my hairdresser l don't because we spoke one day about tips and l had a conversation many years ago with an 'odd' Irishman and we became good pals and enjoyed a drink together.
He told me that if you tip a taxi driver for example 2 dollars then he may say 'Thanks' but in a week or so he will go to a shop and buy a pair of socks for 4 dollars but he will never say " Ah that guy l picked up from the station bought me one of these socks". Likewise a hairdresser will not do the same when you drop a tip into the line of tins or whatever at reception.
So l have my haircut and then about a week later l go into the shop with a box of cakes for all people in the shop, sometimes flowers so that again, all staff get to share. l think that everyone remembers you better and maybe more fondly too the fact that you remember their service, l do this too in my local supermarket, buy something in the shop, at the till pay separately and sign the ticket as a gift to avoid problems with their bosses.
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