it is Obama's fault also Hillary's and Soros and Jeff Bezos and all those liberal :)
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it is Trump's fault
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I like Disneyland
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it is the Muslim's fault
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Should Children work?
Today I took several pairs of shoes to the shinning shop and there one of the young fellows that shine shoes had his young child (9 or 10 y.o) working there and he asked me if having his child working was wrong because a lady had lecture him about it.
The boy had not classes because his teacher had a meeting (and it looks like teachers have meeting rather frequently and not classes for the children ) and the boy could not go with his mother because no children are allowed into her job so either the boy stays alone at home or on the streets or the father takes him to work (shinning shoes) so the boy was shinning shoes and helping his father.
in my opinion If the child is doing it of his/her own inference {for want of a better word} and is doing so in an environment of love and best interest. Then to not allow the child to work is an injustice.
All children love to help their Mothers and Fathers. Intense labour is very different
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
nonsmoker: in my opinion If the child is doing it of his/her own inference {for want of a better word} and is doing so in an environment of love and best interest. Then to not allow the child to work is an injustice.
All children love to help their Mothers and Fathers. Intense labour is very different
the child working means he is not alone at home or on the streets and the child gets good tips while working also beyond that the father can have an eye on his child.
marlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada585 Posts
marlindapClearwater, British Columbia Canada585 posts
instead of a lecture maybe the lady could have told the boy what a wonderful job he was doing shinning those shoes. Then the father and the son would both be proud of what they were doing. When the father first had the idea, he probably never saw anything wrong with it, nor the son. He was probably happy to think he was helping his dad, how sad the father had to question his own judgement because of one persons opinion.
marlindap: instead of a lecture maybe the lady could have told the boy what a wonderful job he was doing shinning those shoes. Then the father and the son would both be proud of what they were doing. When the father first had the idea, he probably never saw anything wrong with it, nor the son. He was probably happy to think he was helping his dad, how sad the father had to question his own judgement because of one persons opinion.
Very well said, Yes The questioning of self judgement can be quite damaging, especially when it comes to relationships. I am sure there are loads of kids with no Fathers, Mothers and sadly Many without both, that would understand the true merit and value of the dream of working and helping a Parent .
lifeisadream: the child working means he is not alone at home or on the streets and the child gets good tips while working also beyond that the father can have an eye on his child.
ChesneyChrist: Ideally parents would have the time and money to put the kids first and not take them along to work.
Personally I liked the jobs I got myself as a boy, I was cleaning wheelie bins when I was 8. But I didn't enjoy all those summer weeks working in mum's sandwich shop or every weekend passing tools to my dad all year round.
If the child had no classes, then yes it is ok. The child is with his father and what better place could this child be? Family is so important in raising children.
My daughter had her own paper round business by the time she was 12.
I did it with her, so it was a safe learning experience.
She paid for her bedroom decoration and furniture, 2 school ski trips, a school trip to Disneyland Paris and more.
I had the child benefit (which all parents get in the UK) paid into her account and she budgeted that for swimming, martial arts, horse riding, skiing and ballet lessons/equipment.
It's educational for children to work, earn and budget. It's educational (and fun) for children to save up for extra-curricula lessons and experiences.
12 hour shifts in a sweatshop for two bowls of rice and a hard floor to sleep on, no.
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
chris27292729: There is nothing wrong with studying and working. Am one of them working 8 hours during the day and studying and going to evening school after work.-
Lots of people do it.
marlindap: instead of a lecture maybe the lady could have told the boy what a wonderful job he was doing shinning those shoes. Then the father and the son would both be proud of what they were doing. When the father first had the idea, he probably never saw anything wrong with it, nor the son. He was probably happy to think he was helping his dad, how sad the father had to question his own judgement because of one persons opinion.
nonsmoker: Indeed, It makes for a health of society.
Any job being legal should make people proud of proving for themselves.
Answering the OP question; Should children work? my answer would be no as an intensive exploiting labor but in the circumstances described it is not only ok but good for the family.
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Len05: yes making children productive will make adults have benefits from children and more children will be born.
I'm now talking about a modern society and not the stone age countries referred by OP
You brought a very importan point there, some parents do benefit from the work of their children they do exploit their own children, that is not the case in the scenario presented for this thread.
stemik62: If the child had no classes, then yes it is ok. The child is with his father and what better place could this child be? Family is so important in raising children.
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
ChesneyChrist: Personally I liked the jobs I got myself as a boy, I was cleaning wheelie bins when I was 8. But I didn't enjoy all those summer weeks working in mum's sandwich shop or every weekend passing tools to my dad all year round.
it should be more common than not that children enjoy their parents company even if the children have to help them.
As a child and even as a teenager I do remember helping my father doing some mechanical tasks when he was fixing/cleaning his cab (taxi) in fact I would have liked learning more from him while I was not very fond of cooking as a child which was done by my mother.
lifeisadream: Ivanka is not the only one and you are obsessed with Mr. Trump and his family to the point of boredom.
Mr. Trump is your president whether you like or not and if you really want to criticize his job get informed and well informed and believe me, you will find pretty good reasons for it.
always
always call Trump, president. the problem is exactly that he's the president
and his Ivanka abusing children around the world. is a fact
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
jac_the_gripper: My daughter had her own paper round business by the time she was 12.
I did it with her, so it was a safe learning experience.
She paid for her bedroom decoration and furniture, 2 school ski trips, a school trip to Disneyland Paris and more.
I had the child benefit (which all parents get in the UK) paid into her account and she budgeted that for swimming, martial arts, horse riding, skiing and ballet lessons/equipment.
It's educational for children to work, earn and budget. It's educational (and fun) for children to save up for extra-curricula lessons and experiences.
12 hour shifts in a sweatshop for two bowls of rice and a hard floor to sleep on, no. Exactly!
jac_the_gripper: My daughter had her own paper round business by the time she was 12.
I did it with her, so it was a safe learning experience.
She paid for her bedroom decoration and furniture, 2 school ski trips, a school trip to Disneyland Paris and more.
I had the child benefit (which all parents get in the UK) paid into her account and she budgeted that for swimming, martial arts, horse riding, skiing and ballet lessons/equipment.
It's educational for children to work, earn and budget. It's educational (and fun) for children to save up for extra-curricula lessons and experiences.
12 hour shifts in a sweatshop for two bowls of rice and a hard floor to sleep on, no.
Thanks for reminding me about my childhood. When I was 14 years in 1978, I had 3 paper routes, cut grass and shoveled snow. I had over $3000 in the bank by the time I was 16. And I had bought all my own record albums (over 300) and books and WW2 model airplanes.
lifeisadreamOPMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
mykingdomforanam: When I was 4 I'd go door to door with my "artwork" and sell it.
I don't remember a time when I didn't work as a child.
I used to work all day for some change, and pop bottles.
The money I earned would always get borrowed by my stepdad, and I'd never get it back.
When I asked for it, he'd say, "You ate didn't you?"
We always had Chivas Regal, Coors, Camels, and good wine in our house; and I was always hungry.
I only went to school, so that I could steal the other children's lunches.
I learned that if you work hard, and save all your money...
Somebody else will spend it, while you starve.
Unfortunately some parents should not be parents, the good thing is to learn from the past and not to do the same or worse.
My father never drank (except for a time or two as a teenager) and he knew at an early age that not drinking would made a difference in his life. Although, he would have some liquor at our home for visits and one of my brother would take some but my father had measured the line of the liquor in the bottle and he would lecture my brother because he knew it was my brother, later my brother would take some liquor and then pour some water so the level was the same
Yes, important values and responsabilities can be learned from part time early jobs. Make our kids do chores and do not let them think they're absolved of not only the work, but of learning that work has to be done and that each one of us must contribute for the betterment of the whole....family, society, world
I think it's good for children to learn responsibility early on whether it's chores or a little job as long as it isn't something that's forced on them.
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Should Children Work?(Vote Below)
Today I took several pairs of shoes to the shinning shop and there one of the young fellows that shine shoes had his young child (9 or 10 y.o) working there and he asked me if having his child working was wrong because a lady had lecture him about it.
The boy had not classes because his teacher had a meeting (and it looks like teachers have meeting rather frequently and not classes for the children ) and the boy could not go with his mother because no children are allowed into her job so either the boy stays alone at home or on the streets or the father takes him to work (shinning shoes) so the boy was shinning shoes and helping his father.
Thank you in advance for your comments.