I read "20 minutes with the President" by Charlie Sheen ,Do you think 9/11 was an inside job (66)
There is a lot of strange coincidences that happened that point right back to being something like an inside job, which of course how can you rule it out. For instance, In England when the bombings occured there, they were doing an excercise at the precise time for the exact same instance of which may occur when the bombs went off. Interesting. In the USA on 9-11 the Military was told to stand down during the time when Aircraft were entering a no fly zone near the Pentagon, yet watching the video there is no aircraft to be seen and no parts of an aircraft was found. hmmm. Yet, watching the twin towers, there was molten steel coming out of the building and explosions before the building fell which many people in those specialized fields of demolition also pointed out that it was a plan and executed demolition of the twin towers, in which both contained some 2 million pounds of Vermiculite and the Buildings would have to be torn down in the future anyway because of the hazard to humans.
So the owner of the buildings collected the insurance, but there is one other really wierd thing that occured which still comes to be questioned. Where did 100 million dollars go from the New York Bank which was in the Twin Towers on the exact floor the plane hit and such a bank robbery left no evidence behind where the money went after the buildings fell and the computers and servers destroyed. Soon after, the Partriot Act then allowed the Government to monitor all money over $10,000 in any account in the USA. hmmmm... Was it a just a huge bank robbery which the Owners of the buildings planned out with some foreign mafia and used some hapless fools in the Taliban to take the blame?
Misdirection is the best way to get away with anything and if it was true it was nothing more than a huge bank heist, it was the largest in history and they got away free as a bird.
So the owner of the buildings collected the insurance, but there is one other really wierd thing that occured which still comes to be questioned. Where did 100 million dollars go from the New York Bank which was in the Twin Towers on the exact floor the plane hit and such a bank robbery left no evidence behind where the money went after the buildings fell and the computers and servers destroyed. Soon after, the Partriot Act then allowed the Government to monitor all money over $10,000 in any account in the USA. hmmmm... Was it a just a huge bank robbery which the Owners of the buildings planned out with some foreign mafia and used some hapless fools in the Taliban to take the blame?
Misdirection is the best way to get away with anything and if it was true it was nothing more than a huge bank heist, it was the largest in history and they got away free as a bird.
My bet is the hijackers had no idea the towers would collapse after the impacts........it was just an unfortunate huge bonus for their cause.
Quite an impressive mission they pulled-off ........one can only hope the seven virgins they get in heaven turn out to be transvestites !
Quite an impressive mission they pulled-off ........one can only hope the seven virgins they get in heaven turn out to be transvestites !
jvaski: My bet is the hijackers had no idea the towers would collapse after the impacts........it was just an unfortunate huge bonus for their cause.
Quite an impressive mission they pulled-off ........one can only hope the seven virgins they get in heaven turn out to be transvestites !
Quite an impressive mission they pulled-off ........one can only hope the seven virgins they get in heaven turn out to be transvestites !
After his death, Osama bin Laden went to heaven.
There he was greeted by George Washington, who proceeded to slap him across the face and yell at him, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!"
Patrick Henry approached and punched Osama in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed."
James Madison entered, kicked Osama and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!"
Thomas Jefferson came in and proceeded to beat Osama many times with a long cane and said, "It was evil men like you that provided me the inspiration to pen the Declaration of Independence!"
These beatings and thrashings continued as John Rudolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the Muslim terrorist leader.
As Osama lay bleeding and writhing! in unbearable pain an Angel appeared.
Bin Laden wept in pain and said to the Angel, "This is not what you promised me."
The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you up here. What did you think I said?"
Oigres: Has anyone read Charlie Sheen's 20 minutes with the President, Questions about 9/11
You mean that "Interview That Never Happened"?
Conrad73: After his death, Osama bin Laden went to heaven.
There he was greeted by George Washington, who proceeded to slap him across the face and yell at him, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!"
Patrick Henry approached and punched Osama in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed."
James Madison entered, kicked Osama and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!"
Thomas Jefferson came in and proceeded to beat Osama many times with a long cane and said, "It was evil men like you that provided me the inspiration to pen the Declaration of Independence!"
These beatings and thrashings continued as John Rudolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the Muslim terrorist leader.
As Osama lay bleeding and writhing! in unbearable pain an Angel appeared.
Bin Laden wept in pain and said to the Angel, "This is not what you promised me."
The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you up here. What did you think I said?"
and then...........another SURPRISE!There he was greeted by George Washington, who proceeded to slap him across the face and yell at him, "How dare you try to destroy the nation I helped conceive!"
Patrick Henry approached and punched Osama in the nose and shouted, "You wanted to end our liberties but you failed."
James Madison entered, kicked Osama and said, "This is why I allowed our government to provide for the common defense!"
Thomas Jefferson came in and proceeded to beat Osama many times with a long cane and said, "It was evil men like you that provided me the inspiration to pen the Declaration of Independence!"
These beatings and thrashings continued as John Rudolph, James Monroe and 66 other early Americans came in and unleashed their anger on the Muslim terrorist leader.
As Osama lay bleeding and writhing! in unbearable pain an Angel appeared.
Bin Laden wept in pain and said to the Angel, "This is not what you promised me."
The Angel replied, "I told you there would be 72 Virginians waiting for you up here. What did you think I said?"
In response to: ...one of the first things I learned in doing research was to consider the source...
Applies to acquiring and accepting any kind of knowledge.I would listen to Alex Jones or G. Edward Griffin
Oigres: I would listen to Alex Jones or G. Edward Griffin
When I'm in the mood for fantasy and sci fi I prefer J.R.R. Tolkien & Gene Rodenberry.
I was very interested in the Popular Mechanic's research project..and the many engineers who stepped forward for another documentary to actually demonstrate how buildings are routinely 'dropped'. I say it looked oddly very similar to the manner in which the towers fell. Or were felled.. There is a common misconception prevalent in the world but especially in the U.S. Those who stray from public opinion are heretics and must necessarily be mentally ill or something of that sort. The same is true in the Christian community regarding any doctrine that is denounced by an individual. They are branded for life as sinful and ungodly. Why? Because they had reason to believe that such a doctrine was possibly not as correct as everyone else thought.
The question is: How do you know that the media is still free? How do you know that the government still has your personal best interest at heart? How do we know the government is still to be 'worshipped' because it is a 'christian' government? How do we know that there is no possibility that our own president might have been willing to sacrifice thousands of human beings in order to justify a war? How do you know? Why does anyone who is of a different opinion than the majority usually end up mysteriously disappearing?
All I'm saying is that questions are healthy. If you are quashed for having questions, they usually have something to hide...Open mindedness is a must. Either you choose differently or you don't, but the most important thing is that you listened and learned...and weighed the facts YOURSELF. Just be sure they are facts.
The question is: How do you know that the media is still free? How do you know that the government still has your personal best interest at heart? How do we know the government is still to be 'worshipped' because it is a 'christian' government? How do we know that there is no possibility that our own president might have been willing to sacrifice thousands of human beings in order to justify a war? How do you know? Why does anyone who is of a different opinion than the majority usually end up mysteriously disappearing?
All I'm saying is that questions are healthy. If you are quashed for having questions, they usually have something to hide...Open mindedness is a must. Either you choose differently or you don't, but the most important thing is that you listened and learned...and weighed the facts YOURSELF. Just be sure they are facts.
junglegirl777: I was very interested in the Popular Mechanic's research project..and the many engineers who stepped forward for another documentary to actually demonstrate how buildings are routinely 'dropped'. I say it looked oddly very similar to the manner in which the towers fell. Or were felled.. There is a common misconception prevalent in the world but especially in the U.S. Those who stray from public opinion are heretics and must necessarily be mentally ill or something of that sort. The same is true in the Christian community regarding any doctrine that is denounced by an individual. They are branded for life as sinful and ungodly. Why? Because they had reason to believe that such a doctrine was possibly not as correct as everyone else thought.
The question is: How do you know that the media is still free? How do you know that the government still has your personal best interest at heart? How do we know the government is still to be 'worshipped' because it is a 'christian' government? How do we know that there is no possibility that our own president might have been willing to sacrifice thousands of human beings in order to justify a war? How do you know? Why does anyone who is of a different opinion than the majority usually end up mysteriously disappearing?
All I'm saying is that questions are healthy. If you are quashed for having questions, they usually have something to hide...Open mindedness is a must. Either you choose differently or you don't, but the most important thing is that you listened and learned...and weighed the facts YOURSELF. Just be sure they are facts.
When you Implode a Structure you remove most of it's Supports,then,with Explosive you cut the rest and let Gravity take care,that is why it looks somewhat familiar.The question is: How do you know that the media is still free? How do you know that the government still has your personal best interest at heart? How do we know the government is still to be 'worshipped' because it is a 'christian' government? How do we know that there is no possibility that our own president might have been willing to sacrifice thousands of human beings in order to justify a war? How do you know? Why does anyone who is of a different opinion than the majority usually end up mysteriously disappearing?
All I'm saying is that questions are healthy. If you are quashed for having questions, they usually have something to hide...Open mindedness is a must. Either you choose differently or you don't, but the most important thing is that you listened and learned...and weighed the facts YOURSELF. Just be sure they are facts.
However,when was there enough time to weaken the Structure of the Towers so they could be dropped with Explosives.
You need to attach Shaped Charges just at the right spots!
no but doesnt everything have to have a conspiracy behind it lol
Conrad73: and then...........another SURPRISE!
ubl,will make a u turn,lol.reb56: i,didnt think it could be,then i asked myself,where is bin laden?cia,etc.cant find one man,hm?then,congress,doesnt know why&where,all the money went,makes u think,something is going on!sheep&sheep herders.
Here he is!
or maybe creating a Mini-Bin!
Who knows?
Michael211_2000: No and No it wasn't an inside job any more than Pearl Harbor was in 1941. The enemy did a good job thinking outside-the-box in each case, and in both cases the enemy awakened a sleeping-giant. Not the best of strategies that!
Better to let sleeping-giant's sleep, but some people have to learn the hard way I guess.
- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
Better to let sleeping-giant's sleep, but some people have to learn the hard way I guess.
- Michael ("American by birth, Texan by the Grace of God!")
Actually both events were remarkably similar. In both cases the US had a goal of entering a war but needed a catalyst to overcome public opinion. FDR during his campaign peomised not to send us into a foreign war. In addition there was a warning called in to washington a day or two before that was forwarded to Hawaii. That message was ignored and they attempted to cover it up. This is a time honored tactic, it was also used during ww-1. I recently saw a special on history where they dove to the wreckage. Sure enough the lusitania's cargo hold was full of artillery shells and other weapon material. In addition the germans placed ads in english in the NY papers warning people not to sail into that zone as civilian ships were crying war material and subject to sinking.
In the case of 911, at the very least we allowed it to happen to capitalize on it for our geopolitical goals, and especially the collapse of building 7 suggests there may have been charges set to facilitate the collapse. I tend to believe the firefighters who were in the basement and witnessed these explosions over the bush administration.
Below is a link to an article about the foia request that finally uncovered the truth about pearl harbor.
for someone like me who dislikes the government notice the screen name. there is know way the government was behind 9/11. where do you people come up with crap like this.
Brewer: The consider the source thing has always been a problem in my mind. By default anyone who discovers cospiracies at high levels is not going to be a part of the establishment.
I trust alex jones far more than say cnn, anyone who goes to alot of efort to bring things to light probably has an axe to grind. I say ignore the messenger and focus on the information.
How do you think bldg seven fell?
As a military man, surely you know the difference betwen detonation and deflageration. Diesel does not detonate, so how do you acont for the clen shearing on the support beams in the towers?
I will give you credit, at least you watched loose change. I have a problem with people who dismiss out of hand the possibility of a conspiracy, such a person is highly ignorant of history which is basically the sum of the results of neverending conspiracies.
I trust alex jones far more than say cnn, anyone who goes to alot of efort to bring things to light probably has an axe to grind. I say ignore the messenger and focus on the information.
How do you think bldg seven fell?
As a military man, surely you know the difference betwen detonation and deflageration. Diesel does not detonate, so how do you acont for the clen shearing on the support beams in the towers?
I will give you credit, at least you watched loose change. I have a problem with people who dismiss out of hand the possibility of a conspiracy, such a person is highly ignorant of history which is basically the sum of the results of neverending conspiracies.
Right, B, and this subject is highly apropos of your "open-minded" thread.
Most people who reject non-official 9/11 theories do so out-of-hand with nary a glance at the supportive evidence. I don't believe you're entitled to a strong opinion either way until you've read a book or two on the subject. I've read the Popular Mechanics various pieces and their book as well as David Griffen's and other anti-official conspiracy theory writers. To me, it's no contest: the official conspiracy theory, if written as a novel, would be sent back from your agent/editor with: "For god's sake, clean up the logic in your story! It doesn't make a lick of sense as written."
Virtually every official-conspiracy-believer I've spoken with (and I've spoken with plenty!!) just hand-waves all the counter-evidence - and there are masses of it - away as though it amounted to nothing. Can you imagine an investigator claiming fair-mindedness who simply dismissed every piece of opposing testimony and evidence in favor of a foregone conclusion? And yet that's pretty much exactly what the 9/11 Commission, NIST, and FEMA did; from the beginning there was only one theory being considered, and the task of all these agencies was to account for what happened according to that one theory. That is the polar opposite of how a fair, sound scientific investigation would be conducted.
Brewer: Actually both events were remarkably similar. In both cases the US had a goal of entering a war but needed a catalyst to overcome public opinion. FDR during his campaign peomised not to send us into a foreign war. In addition there was a warning called in to washington a day or two before that was forwarded to Hawaii. That message was ignored and they attempted to cover it up. This is a time honored tactic, it was also used during ww-1. I recently saw a special on history where they dove to the wreckage. Sure enough the lusitania's cargo hold was full of artillery shells and other weapon material. In addition the germans placed ads in english in the NY papers warning people not to sail into that zone as civilian ships were crying war material and subject to sinking.
In the case of 911, at the very least we allowed it to happen to capitalize on it for our geopolitical goals, and especially the collapse of building 7 suggests there may have been charges set to facilitate the collapse. I tend to believe the firefighters who were in the basement and witnessed these explosions over the bush administration.
Below is a link to an article about the foia request that finally uncovered the truth about pearl harbor.
In the case of 911, at the very least we allowed it to happen to capitalize on it for our geopolitical goals, and especially the collapse of building 7 suggests there may have been charges set to facilitate the collapse. I tend to believe the firefighters who were in the basement and witnessed these explosions over the bush administration.
Below is a link to an article about the foia request that finally uncovered the truth about pearl harbor.
There is some pretty compelling evidence, in my opinion, that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was known about in advance, and was allowed to happen by an administration that wanted desperately to declare war on Japan.
There are strong parallels indeed between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. The New American Century neocons even wrote in their famous paper that American needed a new Pearl Harbor to achieve popular support for their desired goals. 9/11 was made-to-order for that purpose.
you can come with every quote in the world. i,m still not going to buy it. i like must think you people are nuts.
amazing you people are crazy. now i know why i moved to Ukraine. go ahead and say it was an inside job. do you realize if you take a poll in the USA. 85 percent of the people agree with me. you people are nuts. i use to like charlie sheen. but way to much coke has fried his brain
Ambrose2007: There is some pretty compelling evidence, in my opinion, that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was known about in advance, and was allowed to happen by an administration that wanted desperately to declare war on Japan.
There are strong parallels indeed between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. The New American Century neocons even wrote in their famous paper that American needed a new Pearl Harbor to achieve popular support for their desired goals. 9/11 was made-to-order for that purpose.
There are strong parallels indeed between Pearl Harbor and 9/11. The New American Century neocons even wrote in their famous paper that American needed a new Pearl Harbor to achieve popular support for their desired goals. 9/11 was made-to-order for that purpose.
You touch on the main reason I do not summarily dismiss the 911 conspiracies. Unfortunately all the evidence is from the group accused of perpetrating the crime. Popular Mechanics did not get to investigate a secure crime scene personally. If I was trying a mobster and all the evidence came from a discovery I filed to the defense I would not likely have any smoking guns. For this reason I am sure well never really know, but given the lusitania lies, forewarning of pearl harbor, likely staging of the gulf of tinkinincident, its more likely the government was somehow involved than not.
It works both ways though. I gave king george the same benefit of the doubt on this one as well. We rattled sabers and built up for 14 months. If some guy was growing weed and the sheriff was in the paper every day for 14mo before he executed the warant, what are the odds youd find even a seed or lightbulb in the place? Especially if the place was a giant friggin desert.
We're all nutz...to someone else! Those buildings(twin towers) reminded me of a well planned demolition implosion when they came down. Somethings not right here. Also, Bush had good reasons to start the wars at least in his own mind. BUT,correct me if I'm wrong, during times of war doesn't the Prez enjoy exclusive powers to take action without needing congressional approval? Seems like a diabolical way to convert USA to a dictatorship don'tcha think! Consider the flawed intel. I agree with those of you who caution about underestimating the enemy. Also...WHO all are the enemy? Our country seems to be getting disevted by the "powers that be". Ladies & Gentlemen it is time to wake up & decide what freedoms we want...while we still have them!
What do you think Obama has in mind? If you think he's going to invite you for a beer.THINK AGAIN!
In the meantime..May our harvest tomorrow be from the intended seeds we are planting today!
What do you think Obama has in mind? If you think he's going to invite you for a beer.THINK AGAIN!In the meantime..May our harvest tomorrow be from the intended seeds we are planting today!
Mulberry4000: ok instead of doing ad hominim attack why don't you disprove him wrong
best wishes
Sunshine,I been putting up facts from that time!best wishes
You think this Garbage has come up the first time?
You're a good one to talk Ad Hominem!
Conrad73: Sunshine,I been putting up facts from that time!
You think this Garbage has come up the first time?
You're a good one to talk Ad Hominem!
You think this Garbage has come up the first time?
You're a good one to talk Ad Hominem!
Quoting the governments investigation of itself proves nothing. If those who believe it was a surprise and bush knew nothing would answer the charges against the official theory in a methodical and thorough manner it would be helpful. The popular mechanics examination for example ignores a few of the major claims.
Brewer: Quoting the governments investigation of itself proves nothing. If those who believe it was a surprise and bush knew nothing would answer the charges against the official theory in a methodical and thorough manner it would be helpful. The popular mechanics examination for example ignores a few of the major claims.
There is one thing all these Conspiracy Buff seem to forget,that it takes Months to prepare Buildings like that for a Takedown with Explosives.A noisy dirty Job,which couldn't be hidden in the middle of Manhattan.
You don't just fill a Building up with C4 and blow it!
Conrad73: There is one thing all these Conspiracy Buff seem to forget,that it takes Months to prepare Buildings like that for a Takedown with Explosives.
A noisy dirty Job,which couldn't be hidden in the middle of Manhattan.
You don't just fill a Building up with C4 and blow it!
A noisy dirty Job,which couldn't be hidden in the middle of Manhattan.
You don't just fill a Building up with C4 and blow it!
The months of preparation are to reduce dust and debris and collateral damage. Placing a few cutting charges on some main beams to help an already weakened building come down could easily be done by a night janitor(s) or maintenence man/men in a few evenings.
Brewer: The months of preparation are to reduce dust and debris and collateral damage. Placing a few cutting charges on some main beams to help an already weakened building come down could easily be done by a night janitor(s) or maintenence man/men in a few evenings.
Yep,dream on!Ever looked at the site of those Girders?Steelbeams need to be torched,Concrete Columns need to be weakened with Jackhammers!Nope,No way,No How!
Truth will come out one day....it always does. I just hope that Mr. Bush & Mr. Chenny gang(along with CIA/FBI/MOSAD officials, Ariel Sharon, and Benjami Netaniyahu gang) are still alive and well to watch the "truth" unfold
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unanswered, many anomalies to ponder on.
I heard an interview last week with an office worker on the
upper floors of one of the towers. He claimed (and I do believe
it has been substantiated) that the upper floors had power
shutdown on the weekend before the 9th to allow work to be
carried out. All the computer systems had to be shut down,
a task that created much work for many of the busnesses on
those floors. Now in itself this doesnt suggest anything
untowards was happening, but what does seem strange is there
was no mention of this in any report but even stranger, The
Port Authority denied this had happened. Now why would they
say that?
But, all that aside, what puzzles me about this theory that
the towers were brought down by explosives is...why bother?
Surely just flying two airliners into the WTC is enough to
make people take notice. Why run the risk (considerable risk
at that) of taking such audacious measures just to ensure
the towers collapsed?