It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America! (717)

Oct 28, 2010 6:23 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Media is starting to connect the string of sniper attacks in the country over the last two weeks. FOX just ran down the number incidents. There was one at a police station, I had not heard of. So with today's sighting at Texas AM....that is five over the last 2 weeks.

All after the lone Pakistani slipped into the country. Me thinks that the FBI is working over time at this point.
Oct 28, 2010 6:32 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
LOL....the Texas AM gunman has been located. He was a student carrying a replica long gun.

I bet he was shivering in his Texas cowboy boots when the SWAT team breached his dorm door and tossed in a flash bang grenade. When that ex Iraq Stationed Army sergeant getting under his noose and said "were is it, son?"

I see one Texas Aggie with a studder and a heart palpitation. rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 28, 2010 6:41 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude...I may do some dumb things at times. But why do I renounce the REP when they are about to come to power? At heart, I am a Tea Partier. Both parties have failed the country and its people.

Both broke faith with the people along the road to power and position.
But kicking REP or DEM is not going to regain or rebuild the faith lost. It only angers them.

DEM are not the party of American business....they have never been. Unions, social welfare, regulation controls on banks and industry. Just because the push a green agenda today, does not mean they pro American business. Remember that $6b solar energy project was awarded to a German firm.


Tea partier oak.... then you mean it is best giving the power to some dumba** knowing not a thing persons who have no idea what they are talking a bout and then things will be all right?

Unions are bad TT? Lol... gosh you are so way off ... then employers should becomes gods on Earth and doing what ever they want against workers... You and ur guys surely want to brings America back to the time of "Founding fathers" and that is why your "Funding fathers" using this much money to destroy the american government laugh

Social wellfare programs in America have actually been one of THE most succesfull programs in America in the last 75 yeras and your guys just want their dirty hands on american,s hard earned savings ... 'then the danger against America is even bigger than I have thouhgt ... even GWB and other stoopidoes from republican party before him did not success doing this... Realy scarey your guys are probabely close to gain control in at least one of the houses. Monsters of the dark past in deed...uh oh

Regulation is bad? aham TT... then to hell with people just the industry feels good then no matter what the heck they do against natur does not matter and the government must make sure poluters and so on shall get rid of punishment ... and dirty mostly right winged money lenders must become able to milk americans and taking their homes and life savings even easier than they could because of George W Bush and his bunch of criminals on charge! doh

The feauter of successfull business for any coutries isGreen technology TT but since your end of days anto american prospericy fellows have succeded to stop an american environmental program so far... feauter of american making money of this is rather uncertain and you have stopped millions of new jobs in America !
Oct 28, 2010 7:18 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
djpierre
djpierredjpierrechicago, Illinois USA1 Threads 82 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Welcome to this thread DJ
thumbs up cheers cheers glad to be here bro
Oct 28, 2010 7:47 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Olbermann just points out the exact what these teapartiers are saying they are going to do if having the possibility... Your Dem friend is definately wrong then and is not that interestd in poitics or listening to what candidates are talking a bout now on days... like your self, you see?


He's so left wing that I call him Dud jr. tongue
Oct 29, 2010 6:08 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: Tea partier oak.... then you mean it is best giving the power to some dumba** knowing not a thing persons who have no idea what they are talking a bout and then things will be all right?

Unions are bad TT? Lol... gosh you are so way off ... then employers should becomes gods on Earth and doing what ever they want against workers... You and ur guys surely want to brings America back to the time of "Founding fathers" and that is why your "Funding fathers" using this much money to destroy the american government

Social wellfare programs in America have actually been one of THE most succesfull programs in America in the last 75 yeras and your guys just want their dirty hands on american,s hard earned savings ... 'then the danger against America is even bigger than I have thouhgt ... even GWB and other stoopidoes from republican party before him did not success doing this... Realy scarey your guys are probabely close to gain control in at least one of the houses. Monsters of the dark past in deed...

Regulation is bad? aham TT... then to hell with people just the industry feels good then no matter what the heck they do against natur does not matter and the government must make sure poluters and so on shall get rid of punishment ... and dirty mostly right winged money lenders must become able to milk americans and taking their homes and life savings even easier than they could because of George W Bush and his bunch of criminals on charge!

The feauter of successfull business for any coutries isGreen technology TT but since your end of days anto american prospericy fellows have succeded to stop an american environmental program so far... feauter of american making money of this is rather uncertain and you have stopped millions of new jobs in America !
Actually Oboomy is the OAK!laugh
Oct 29, 2010 6:24 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Let us talk Angle and Reid some.

The last time a a Senate Majority leader was booted from office by his voter.....was 58 years ago. That new comer Angle is even close, much less leading Ried by a small margin is stunning.

Ried is Washington personified. He been there so long, that Nevadian consider him a foreign state leader. Ried so inside the belt way that
his auto GPS mapping device fails to function when he leaves it.

With early voter saying Ried name had already been checked on the touch screen, that is because the touch screen had always had Rieds name on it. But Ried camp is playing some underhand tricks to pre mark the ballot. I hope someone has the sense to use their cell phone camera and record this.

It might make good reading in the Las Vegas Times.

What I think what has the Nevadian so ticked....is with their high unemployment of 14%, Harry has the President come to the state and he denounced gaming. Yikes denouncing gaming in Nevada is like killing the
golden goose that laid the golden eggs. It was a major nono.

Las Vegas lost near to 100 conventions, to which Orlando, Tampa, Atlanta, Los Angles and other US Convention cities said thank you. The problem for Harry then became, with Las Vegas the largest county and city in the state, he lost his voter base. When the 100 conventions pulled out, it showed Nevadians that the Ried/Obama relationship was not going to bring home the bacon. No bacon, no votee.

What President Obama failed to understand....is how competitive convention and tourism is. His inability to understand that the economic council and tourist board of Las Vegas had spent 100s of man hours and had logged 1000s of air miles to get those convention for the city. Work and contracts all down the drain after his blurt.

Then Harry runs in into a mini tigre in Angle. She is tough. She
taking no prisoners. McCain is going to campaign for her. She has Dennis Miller doing the talk shows for her. Palin is on board. She has advertising into the illegal alien issue. And had tied Ried to be soft on illegals.

How tough is Angle? Well she has Reid's son Rory ...who is running for office....taking his last name off campaign advertising....so he is not associated to Harry. I would say that it pretty tough.

4 days to find out how this one comes out......but my spiders senses are saying....look for a Angle upset here.
Oct 29, 2010 6:52 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
So the question is?

Is President Obama burying the US in the ditch with the deficit that he has run up?

It is his main rally theme now. That the REP drove the car into the ditch, a deep ditch. Some how were able to survive the crash and now are standing on the road drinking a slurpee, while he (and fellow DEM) strain to get the car back on the road.

That is was a GWB and REP caused economic crisis of 2008. But assume it was. Does President Obama and the DEM billions in spending pull, push or lift the car onto the road again? Or does it bury the car in the ditch?

President Obama has take a real economic gamble with his spending. With no project shovel ready, he went ahead to sign the checks. A question you, own home....it needs some work....a addition and paint job. Would you sign the check to the general contractor without a plan of the addition? Would you sign a check to the painter, with out seed the color of paint he is going to use?

Yes, that is the gamble President Obama decided to take. You say, Tom you are off. Am I?

The FED government just award 2.4b for high speed rail. Florida got 808m and CA got 916m.....some other 52 parties got awards down to 2m. Is this money that will actually build high speed rail? No. It is FED contribution to the design and planning of high speed rail. Meaning When President Obama came to Florida several month ago....and pushed the State into a multi billion dollar high speed rail program...to the tune of matching the FED $3b, the plans for the system was not complete designed yet. He did not know the design of the addition.

But it sure made foreign manufacturer of high speed rails system happy.
Suddenly the Chinese have the fastest high speed rail system in the world. Everytime they place it on the track it goes for a new high speed record......sipping right along for a possible contract here in the US.

Now I am not against high speed rail. I like the idea. But going into multi billion project without the necessary planning and design does not work here. This is not a 30 mph steam driven choo choo. Get the arc of a curve of a track wrong on a train doing 150 mph is a asking for a disaster.

So with the car in the ditch.....and the Obama administration burying it with deficit numbers for projects that going to be designed and redesigned and finally designed to cancellation (like the NJ/NY tunnel project was)...the President has assured this sluggish economy for a decade or more.
Oct 29, 2010 7:23 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Seems that Good Old N-Korea has gotten a Bellyache again!uh oh



South Korea: North Korea opens fire at border
AP



By KWANG-TAE KIM, Associated Press Kwang-tae Kim, Associated Press – 30 mins ago

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea fired two rounds toward South Korea at their tense border and South Korean troops immediately fired back, an official said Friday.

The exchange of fire at the heavily armed border highlights the security problems faced by Seoul as it prepares to host the Group of 20 economic summit next month.

North Korean troops fired at a South Korean guard post in the Demilitarized Zone, said an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul.

There were no South Korean injuries and it was unclear whether it was an accident or an intentional provocation, the official said. He asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

The guard post is 73 miles (118 kilometers) northeast of Seoul.

The firing of the 14.5-mm rounds came hours after North Korea criticized the South for rejecting a proposal to hold military talks and vowed to retaliate.

Despite the incident, previously arranged reunions of hundreds of families separated by the Korean War will go ahead Saturday in the North as scheduled, South Korean Unification Ministry spokesman Chun Hae-sung said.

The ministry handles South Korea's relations with the North.

The spike in tensions Friday came two weeks ahead of a global economic summit in Seoul to be attended by President Barack Obama and other leaders.

Last week, the North's military proposed holding talks with South Korea over anti-North Korean leafletting by South Korean activists and other South Korean propaganda activities, the North's military said in a statement Friday carried by the country's official Korean Central News Agency.

It warned Friday of "merciless physical retaliation" for not accepting the talks, and said South Korea will realize "what catastrophic impact their rejection of dialogue will have on the North-South relations."

The proposed talks did not take place as the two Koreas remain at odds over the sinking of a South Korean warship in March, a South Korean Defense Ministry official said. He also spoke on condition of anonymity, citing internal policy.

In May, a multinational investigation led by Seoul concluded that a torpedo fired by a North Korean submarine sank the 1,200-ton Cheonan warship. North Korea has denied involvement in the sinking, which killed 46 South Korean sailors.

The sinking heightened tensions between the rival Koreas, which remain technically at war because their 1950-53 war ended with a cease-fire, not a peace treaty.

The North warned during military talks with South Korea in late September that it might fire artillery at sites in the South where civilian activists use balloons to launch leaflets condemning North Korean leader Kim Jong Il across the border.

North Korean defectors and South Korean activists regularly float leaflets in a campaign to urge North Koreans to rise up against Kim. The North views the leaflets as part of psychological warfare aimed at toppling its regime.
Oct 29, 2010 7:53 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
The DNC without the mid terms over, began to campaign for President Obama's 2012. Well not really to campaign, but to dig for dirt on the 9 leading REP contenders.

The DNC asked the various military services for any and all contact that the 9 leader REP had with them. Like if Sarah Palin sent a letter to the the Army on her son, that was serving in Afghanistan. Or if Romeny had requested info on Iraq war dead during the Obama administration.

The DNC collection of such document is legal by the freedom of information act, so the military services by law have to honor the request. But it is also repproachable, in that what a mother might say to the Commander of the Army after receiving a letter that caused fear of her son' death.

The DNC is already beginning to play Washington hard ball for the 2012
rerun of President Obama. If the President oldest daughter was in the military and Michele wrote a letter to the service branch commander, would he want it made public? I doubt that to be affirmative.

But this shows a deeper area of concern. How little trust the DNC has in reqard to both the military and REP leaders. The DNC is acting like a watch dog for President Obama here. If the REP leaders and/or military leaders had conspired behind his back...for some cause or reason?

That is not the DNC role. The DNC has no ability to make a charge of treason or disloyalty. No investigative powers. Yet that is exactly what the DNC is doing. The DNC has so far over stepped its role, that it is scarry.

The DNC has no evidence of such a conspriracy. So it is doing a withchunt into the DoD to see if the relationship between the DoD and REP is consprirtoral to the Obama administation. But like the foreign money donations, it is without evidence or foundation.

The DNC threw a broad net into the DoD to see if any communication with
REP leader would be pulled out. But they did not have the investigative right, nor a suspicious cause to warrant throwing the net.

If this is going the high ground that President Obama promised with his 2008 election win, then the DNC is still stuck in the swamp. And has decided not to walk into the high ground with the rest of us. Rather I suggest that this is Washington inside the belt way politics norm.
The DEM leaders have not condemn the DNC request here. Or said that they would not use any DoD supplied information on REP leaders in the 2012.

So?

Just maybe the Obama administration while talking a good game on political ethics. Is in the same swamp with the DNC in applying political ethics.
Oct 29, 2010 7:58 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Conrad73: Seems that Good Old N-Korea has gotten a Bellyache again!



South Korea: North Korea opens fire at border
AP



By KWANG-TAE KIM, Associated Press Kwang-tae Kim, Associated Press – 30 mins ago

SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea fired two rounds toward South Korea at their tense border and South Korean troops immediately fired back, an official said Friday.

The exchange of fire at the heavily armed border highlights the security problems faced by Seoul as it prepares to host the Group of 20 economic summit next month.

North Korean troops fired at a South Korean guard post in the Demilitarized Zone, said an official at the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul.

There were no South Korean injuries and it was unclear whether it was an accident or an intentional provocation, the official said. He asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

The guard post is 73 miles (118 kilometers) northeast of Seoul.

The firing of the 14.5-mm rounds came hours after North Korea criticized the South for rejecting a proposal to hold military talks and vowed to retaliate.

Despite the incident, previously arranged reunions of hundreds of families separated by the Korean War will go ahead Saturday in the North as scheduled, South Korean Unification Ministry spokesman Chun Hae-sung said.

The ministry handles South Korea's relations with the North.

The spike in tensions Friday came two weeks ahead of a global economic summit in Seoul to be attended by President Barack Obama and other leaders.

Last week, the North's military proposed holding talks with South Korea over anti-North Korean leafletting by South Korean activists and other South Korean propaganda activities, the North's military said in a statement Friday carried by the country's official Korean Central News Agency.

It warned Friday of "merciless physical retaliation" for not accepting the talks, and said South Korea will realize "what catastrophic impact their rejection of dialogue will have on the North-South relations."

The proposed talks did not take place as the two Koreas remain at odds over the sinking of a South Korean warship in March, a South Korean Defense Ministry official said. He also spoke on condition of anonymity, citing internal policy.

In May, a multinational investigation led by Seoul concluded that a torpedo fired by a North Korean submarine sank the 1,200-ton Cheonan warship. North Korea has denied involvement in the sinking, which killed 46 South Korean sailors.

The sinking heightened tensions between the rival Koreas, which remain technically at war because their 1950-53 war ended with a cease-fire, not a peace treaty.

The North warned during military talks with South Korea in late September that it might fire artillery at sites in the South where civilian activists use balloons to launch leaflets condemning North Korean leader Kim Jong Il across the border.

North Korean defectors and South Korean activists regularly float leaflets in a campaign to urge North Koreans to rise up against Kim. The North views the leaflets as part of psychological warfare aimed at toppling its regime.


The report I read said only two rounds from Nkorea were fired. The caliber is the same as the Chinese heavy machine gun. Me bet they were trying out a new heavy caliber sniper rifle. Thanks for the info.
Oct 29, 2010 8:17 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
They had another sniper shooting in DC. This a second time at the Marine Corp National Museum. Fourth one in two weeks in DC. The rounds fired from the first two shooting came from the same weapon.

Seem the targets are all military....specially Marine Corp targets. I bet the windows at the Pentagon were in the Marine Corp section. Or had a Marine Corp uniform in office when the shot was taken.

Who ever doing this...has a thing out for the Marine Corp. Marine Corp is deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Heads up Jar heads.....you got a sniper out there. Do not be doing any foolish stuff, guys. But be alert and check your environment. You see something funny, get info and call it into the local police. Likely 1/2 the SWAT team is former Corp. They want him as bad as you do.

Don't be breaking Posse' Comtitatus, gentlemen. That is exactly what this guys wants.....let us be smarter than him.
Oct 29, 2010 8:22 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500: The report I read said only two rounds from Nkorea were fired. The caliber is the same as the Chinese heavy machine gun. Me bet they were trying out a new heavy caliber sniper rifle. Thanks for the info.
Probably similar to the .50 cal Bullpup.
Oct 29, 2010 5:11 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Well I posted on hoe Reid could meet his political demise. Time to post on how Nancy Pelosi can meet her political demise.

Only 1 in 3 American approve of the Nancy being the House speaker. See we do have good sense of taste. If has just been proven in a single politcla poll.

Assuming the house switches majority party, Nancy is good as gone as speaker of the house. Give the gavel to Boehner. But can she retain house minority whip?

The smart play for both Obama Administration and the House DEM is to o replace her. She is a fire maker to the House REP and Tea Party. Those Obama need to pass legislation. If he leaves her in power, it is like saying...look you won the mid term....but Nancy and me got a thing going. Yes, I do think that the decision is President Obama's.

The remaining DEMs in the House, will follow his lead on Nancy Pelosi.
They consider that she has done a good job as number three. But this is Washington beltway, were the big boy's and big girl's play. And the biggest on the block is the President.

So a REP/Tea Party win.....will means Nancy is out of the Speaker of house position. But it is President Obama decision to end her career as minority whip.

But it is a good step to place a hand across the aisle for DEMs and the President. Nancy does not bring much to the table in a REP controlled house. Then again, Obama might see it as a in your eye, you....the enemy of America, REP and Tea Party. Me and Nancy have our thing, and we intend to play it out.

It is a decision not to be made until after the midterm....but place it high on the President's agenda.
Oct 29, 2010 5:24 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
LOL......Clinton to Meeks, Meeks back to Clinton, Clinton to Crist, Crist to Meeks, Meeks to Crist.....Crist tipped away to the White House. Clinton picks up the loose ball. Tosses it to Crist. Meeks steps in
for a steal....opps sorry...these guys are on the same side.rolling on the floor laughing

Rubio was ask his feeling of the gaming on. Rubio said this is exactly what Washington has become and why we need a change there.

So here is the most recent rumors on the Meek pull out of the Florida Senate race.

Crist spoke to the White House...and said he would causcus with DEM if elected to the Senate.

Meeks denies saying he would pull out.

Clinton denies suggestioning a pull out.

Crist says Clinton suggested a pull out.

The White House said it would see what it could do.

Meeks says he is in it to the end.

Crist says if Meeks is in it to the end, Rubio wins and it is a end for the both.

The White House dunno did its best to iron it out. laugh
Oct 29, 2010 6:22 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
djpierre: glad to be here bro
Feel welcome DJ and wrtie what is in your mind if you like politics and if you are interested in the subject in here. America Rocks! cheers thumbs up
Oct 29, 2010 6:30 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: LOL....the Texas AM gunman has been located. He was a student carrying a replica long gun.

I bet he was shivering in his Texas cowboy boots when the SWAT team breached his dorm door and tossed in a flash bang grenade. When that ex Iraq Stationed Army sergeant getting under his noose and said "were is it, son?"

I see one Texas Aggie with a studder and a heart palpitation.


So Fox was wrong as usual Ey? tongue roll eyes
Oct 29, 2010 6:46 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Since Rubio beleives he is the one and only "Good latino" and wants to expell millions of human beings from America then let us say oak... what a bout going back some few generations and expelling you and him self as well out from America and then you both can retry to get back if winning a green card lottery or some thing TT?

And he is against the american constitution and want to change it some places so it fits the republican party of America... you use to swear on the same constitution your kind of president called a "Just a Damn piece of Paper" when it did not allow him to run a total dicatorship in America... but when that fact is told... what a bout you? Changing the constitution? You have sweared to this constitution and Rubio and all others want to change it can get the Hell out of America and taking their stolen money to Bahrain or Switzerland or Colombia or Saudi Arabia or some where and never get back!

The american constitution is not good enough for you all of sudden since you beleive in folks wanting to change it so it fits their private earnings?

Are you really ok TT?


You are just starting to see what threat Rubio is, Dude. They already talking a REP President run if he wins the Senate race. I told you so.
LOL......

Trying to mix Rubio with GWB already......but the game and gig is up.
Obama has made GWB look good the country, Dude. None here is down talking GWB any more. It is the foreign ideologues that are hung up on Iraq that are.

20% increase of the college student are going REP this mid term, Dude.
That means about 40% of them will vote REP this time. Obama has lost even the college students.

And Rubio will ...if he runs....in 2012 or 2016...will capture that college student vote with his age and appeal. He will get the hispanic vote that has gone into limbo on the Obama failure to get a comprehensive immigration bill. Rubio is a attractive canidate to minority and diversity groups. He comes from Miami...so knows the gays issues. The Florida old timers like him. And he is solid on family values and has a great family for the married/family appeal.

You all is in big hurt on Rubio. Clinton is trying to get a Crist win to shut/slow him down. But Meeks is not going to play and go along. So just screwed Obama out of a easy repeat. Rubio is going to be the next Senator from Florida. I told you all months ago.....Still working his health care. I had a pressing project to get out. But back to the Rubio health care stuff soon enough.

So baby (as was said in the Kelly's Heros by Telly Savalas), you just had your lunch stolen......
Oct 29, 2010 6:48 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: So the question is?

Is President Obama burying the US in the ditch with the deficit that he has run up?

It is his main rally theme now. That the REP drove the car into the ditch, a deep ditch. Some how were able to survive the crash and now are standing on the road drinking a slurpee, while he (and fellow DEM) strain to get the car back on the road.

That is was a GWB and REP caused economic crisis of 2008. But assume it was. Does President Obama and the DEM billions in spending pull, push or lift the car onto the road again? Or does it bury the car in the ditch?

President Obama has take a real economic gamble with his spending. With no project shovel ready, he went ahead to sign the checks. A question you, own home....it needs some work....a addition and paint job. Would you sign the check to the general contractor without a plan of the addition? Would you sign a check to the painter, with out seed the color of paint he is going to use?

Yes, that is the gamble President Obama decided to take. You say, Tom you are off. Am I?

The FED government just award 2.4b for high speed rail. Florida got 808m and CA got 916m.....some other 52 parties got awards down to 2m. Is this money that will actually build high speed rail? No. It is FED contribution to the design and planning of high speed rail. Meaning When President Obama came to Florida several month ago....and pushed the State into a multi billion dollar high speed rail program...to the tune of matching the FED $3b, the plans for the system was not complete designed yet. He did not know the design of the addition.

But it sure made foreign manufacturer of high speed rails system happy.
Suddenly the Chinese have the fastest high speed rail system in the world. Everytime they place it on the track it goes for a new high speed record......sipping right along for a possible contract here in the US.

Now I am not against high speed rail. I like the idea. But going into multi billion project without the necessary planning and design does not work here. This is not a 30 mph steam driven choo choo. Get the arc of a curve of a track wrong on a train doing 150 mph is a asking for a disaster.

So with the car in the ditch.....and the Obama administration burying it with deficit numbers for projects that going to be designed and redesigned and finally designed to cancellation (like the NJ/NY tunnel project was)...the President has assured this sluggish economy for a decade or more.


Of course you are Way Off... TT! Good you know it ur self !cheers

Republicans for high speed natur friendly trains??? NO WAY TT! A damn lie and nothing than a damn lie! In a real republican kind of America people driving in their own cars and as bigger engines as possible and as cheap fuel as possible no matter how only... or taking a plane and some times travelling in old time kinds of trains Europe and Japan have ditched in the 60,s and China and India and Austrailia even are getting along and even old fashioned russians are working on now on days...while America holding breath to see if better environmental policies EVER becoming reality in America since monsters of the dark past are probabely getting influence once a gain !

Your whole party is a certain back to the Past movment and do not give a damn a bout modern technology TT and taking a look at Reagan years and both Bush years and other repube heads on power tells it all! You do not want it and your guys will NEVER want to enable America becoming better to make the technology better and exporting it to other countries and creating millions of american jobs that way!
Oct 29, 2010 7:05 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course you are Way Off... TT! Good you know it ur self !

Republicans for high speed natur friendly trains??? NO WAY TT! A damn lie and nothing than a damn lie! In a real republican kind of America people driving in their own cars and as bigger engines as possible and as cheap fuel as possible no matter how only... or taking a plane and some times travelling in old time kinds of trains Europe and Japan have ditched in the 60,s and China and India and Austrailia even are getting along and even old fashioned russians are working on now on days...while America holding breath to see if better environmental policies EVER becoming reality in America since monsters of the dark past are probabely getting influence once a gain !

Your whole party is a certain back to the Past movment and do not give a damn a bout modern technology TT and taking a look at Reagan years and both Bush years and other repube heads on power tells it all! You do not want it and your guys will NEVER want to enable America becoming better to make the technology better and exporting it to other countries and creating millions of american jobs that way!


Sorry Dude, this boy supported light rail 15 years ago here in Central Florida. So I know how much pre planning that goes into a rail project.

It is simple. Obama did not do his homework on the high speed rail. If he had....he would found out that they were not shovel ready. Few of the project will break ground until before that 2012.

He is holding a wet bag with a hole in it. Just dripping money. Most all the high speed rail projects had gotten held up in long and difficult acquistion negotiation/litigations. People don't like giving up their homes/businesses for a high speed rail project. So they sued to stay the developments. Stays were given around the country on many of them. Only way to break them.....to do the political suciede thing....declare the properties.....public properties and confiscate them. Very socialistic yes?

Obama did not do his homework. Had he....he would have known that they were not shovel ready.

By the way....Rubio has a 20 point lead. Angle has a 4 point lead on Reid. Ron Paul is 12 point up.
Oct 29, 2010 7:11 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
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ttom500: They had another sniper shooting in DC. This a second time at the Marine Corp National Museum. Fourth one in two weeks in DC. The rounds fired from the first two shooting came from the same weapon.

Seem the targets are all military....specially Marine Corp targets. I bet the windows at the Pentagon were in the Marine Corp section. Or had a Marine Corp uniform in office when the shot was taken.

Who ever doing this...has a thing out for the Marine Corp. Marine Corp is deployed in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Heads up Jar heads.....you got a sniper out there. Do not be doing any foolish stuff, guys. But be alert and check your environment. You see something funny, get info and call it into the local police. Likely 1/2 the SWAT team is former Corp. They want him as bad as you do.

Don't be breaking Posse' Comtitatus, gentlemen. That is exactly what this guys wants.....let us be smarter than him.


I still bet these guys are Repube heads TT and some of ur guys, endorsers and Timothy McWeigh stoopidoes of to day! Wait and see conversing

Your political agenda beleives that Armed fighting against the elected government of America is their right and they listen to Glenn Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity and Hagee and other anti americnas as those every single day or participating in Palin,s gatherings and beleive they got to do this traitorous act against American military and security personal!

They see the american government as the Enemy and by that they are the american Taliban and much more dangerous and important to defeat because they fight against America from with in!

If I am right a bout these assumptions TT... would you leave the Republican party of tea party or what ever and become an "Anti republican american Hero" or some thing then?
Oct 29, 2010 7:31 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: You are just starting to see what threat Rubio is, Dude. They already talking a REP President run if he wins the Senate race. I told you so.
LOL......

Trying to mix Rubio with GWB already......but the game and gig is up.
Obama has made GWB look good the country, Dude. None here is down talking GWB any more. It is the foreign ideologues that are hung up on Iraq that are.

20% increase of the college student are going REP this mid term, Dude.
That means about 40% of them will vote REP this time. Obama has lost even the college students.

And Rubio will ...if he runs....in 2012 or 2016...will capture that college student vote with his age and appeal. He will get the hispanic vote that has gone into limbo on the Obama failure to get a comprehensive immigration bill. Rubio is a attractive canidate to minority and diversity groups. He comes from Miami...so knows the gays issues. The Florida old timers like him. And he is solid on family values and has a great family for the married/family appeal.

You all is in big hurt on Rubio. Clinton is trying to get a Crist win to shut/slow him down. But Meeks is not going to play and go along. So just screwed Obama out of a easy repeat. Rubio is going to be the next Senator from Florida. I told you all months ago.....Still working his health care. I had a pressing project to get out. But back to the Rubio health care stuff soon enough.

So baby (as was said in the Kelly's Heros by Telly Savalas), you just had your lunch stolen......


Your Rubio is at least as stupid as Sarah Palin and as all other tea party candidates all over America TT and even if he takes Florida then Florida have chosed a Stupid person as governer! ... not the first time Florida acts this way any way and Florida shoved Geroge W Bush upon us all as well and some things never change dunno
Oct 29, 2010 7:40 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Sarah is harmless as a Momma bear that just has cubs. She has 3-5 of her Cubs are going to win in mid term....one bouncing Harry Reid. So give the momma bear some respect. She picked winners, Dude.

Don't kid yourself, Sarah has been working her support and her grass roots game. While President Obama has been flying in Air Force One. You cannot do both. When gave up the AK governor job, DEMs claimed she was Dead in the water.

Surprise surprise.....she put together the Tea Party....she found winning Conservative canidates.....and she even found time to catch Alaskan salmon.

Had fun doing it as well, Dude.....how much fun has President Obama had recently? The car is in the ditch speech is old....he has been using it for 2 month now. When he cannot change his main speech lead line with new material....means something is messed up in the White House writing rooms. He is loosing touch....with the American people.

We have changed, but President Obama has not.
Nah TT... the stupid Koch borthers running an eight billion fight agaisnt environmental friendly efforts in California alone have out ot gether tea party and Sarah Palin is just their guy and money can do a lot in America and making some people selling their souls and acting agaisnt the cartain benefit of their own country.

A Harmless Momma Bear? She is a disaster and a real danger against America and a certain reason of rising racial and anti governer violence all over the country... some body must wiretapping this crazy person and send her to jail where she belongs... even McCain,s daughter hates this person for gud Sake!
Oct 29, 2010 7:46 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: Republicans live and breath as long as their Alqueda and Talibanne "brothers" trying to attack us all and are strong... your guys and those terrorist monserts are from the same closet TT

Pretty fabulous work of brave american security forces stopping that package from Yemen... Credit your presidnency which is working day and night to protect America from foreign and domestic threats...

Talking a bout democrats using time and efforts on the elections and then terrorists trying to attack America because of that? TT... are you totaly out of mind or what? What should they do then? Doing not a thing and giving the country back to the bloody hands of your guys with out a hard fight?

It is the Republican party of America who invented this Taliban and Alqueda BS any way! Wakey Wakey TT! Alqueda and Taliban wanted McCain to win... NEVER EVER forget this bloody fact


Sure Dude....this is like Micheal Moore saying that Bill Orielly wants him dead. And like Randy And Evi Quiad fleeing to Canada because they are being hunted in Hollywood. Straight out of the tabloid stuff.

It was the Saudi....that tipped on the Yemen UPS packages. Yes those same Saudi that GWB used for the 911 attack....that 911 truther claim.

McCain winning would have been the worst thing for alQeada and Taliban to have happen. We would not have waited for the 14 month on the Afghan surge. We would not be facing a June 2011 deadline to a win or lose. We would just be there to win.

So it becoming obvious that the Obama appeasement of Islamic world is not stopping attacks. Yes, you have to agree to that. When UPS has live explosive onboard their aircraft. So what is his B Plan? I don't think that he has one.

His close Muslim advisors assured him that if he appeased the Islamic world....with the New York Mosque....with the NASA out reach....with the delay on the Afghan surge....they could get the radical in line.
Stop the attacks. It just crashed thru again.

They just had a Islamic train attack in Washington un covered.....not getting much press....but would have been as big Madrid. You got the Pakistani....I think is a sniper....the alQeada attack on Europe....and now the Yemen UPS attacks.

They are trying to over whelm him, Dude. Him and homeland security. They want to set back both the middle east peace and afghan peace talks.
He did not see it coming. He was listening to his Muslim friends.....like Iman Rauf....

So....don't give us the President Obama counter terrorist post. He is not Charlie Sheen with a belt of 60 cal ammo and M-60 firing away at bin Laden/alWaliki/al-Zwarkiri/Omar Mohammaad/Ghadan/ and a long list of others.
Oct 29, 2010 7:48 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: Your Rubio is at least as stupid as Sarah Palin and as all other tea party candidates all over America TT and even if he takes Florida then Florida have chosed a Stupid person as governer! ... not the first time Florida acts this way any way and Florida shoved Geroge W Bush upon us all as well and some things never change


That is why he has a 20 point lead over a sitting governor and a sitting Senator....rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 29, 2010 7:53 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
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The bloody Fear machine of the republican party of America has long claws:



How STUPID McDonalds really is! Oh my!!!!!! During the Bloody years of the Bushney,s empire McDonald lost as much money as Never before and still they are endorsing these repube heads!doh

It is freaking understandable many american and european youngsters boy cutting McDonald and I certainly hope that McDonald keeps loosing money no matter who wins on Tuesday!

Go Burger King or Jack in the Box or Wendy,s or ... McDonald is nasty and bad for your health any way and not only they destroy rain forrests... but also they support these repube heads as they have always done and trying to force their employees voting as they are told barf
Oct 29, 2010 8:00 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
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Hot_Single_Dude: Nah TT... the stupid Koch borthers running an eight billion fight agaisnt environmental friendly efforts in California alone have out ot gether tea party and Sarah Palin is just their guy and money can do a lot in America and making some people selling their souls and acting agaisnt the cartain benefit of their own country.

A Harmless Momma Bear? She is a disaster and a real danger against America and a certain reason of rising racial and anti governer violence all over the country... some body must wiretapping this crazy person and send her to jail where she belongs... even McCain,s daughter hates this person for gud Sake!


If Sarah win the Presidency in 2012....she will be able to wire tap all those Lefties and liberal that have attack her over the years. Legally.
Joy Behar will have a hernia...and Whoppie Goldberg will try to find a can and string to make calls with. NOW will find all of it office tap
George Soros.....will have his phone taped find the business deals and donations that he has been doing....going public.

So becareful what you ask for.....
Oct 29, 2010 8:07 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Sure Dude....this is like Micheal Moore saying that Bill Orielly wants him dead. And like Randy And Evi Quiad fleeing to Canada because they are being hunted in Hollywood. Straight out of the tabloid stuff.

It was the Saudi....that tipped on the Yemen UPS packages. Yes those same Saudi that GWB used for the 911 attack....that 911 truther claim.

McCain winning would have been the worst thing for alQeada and Taliban to have happen. We would not have waited for the 14 month on the Afghan surge. We would not be facing a June 2011 deadline to a win or lose. We would just be there to win.

So it becoming obvious that the Obama appeasement of Islamic world is not stopping attacks. Yes, you have to agree to that. When UPS has live explosive onboard their aircraft. So what is his B Plan? I don't think that he has one.

His close Muslim advisors assured him that if he appeased the Islamic world....with the New York Mosque....with the NASA out reach....with the delay on the Afghan surge....they could get the radical in line.
Stop the attacks. It just crashed thru again.

They just had a Islamic train attack in Washington un covered.....not getting much press....but would have been as big Madrid. You got the Pakistani....I think is a sniper....the alQeada attack on Europe....and now the Yemen UPS attacks.

They are trying to over whelm him, Dude. Him and homeland security. They want to set back both the middle east peace and afghan peace talks.
He did not see it coming. He was listening to his Muslim friends.....like Iman Rauf....

So....don't give us the President Obama counter terrorist post. He is not Charlie Sheen with a belt of 60 cal ammo and M-60 firing away at bin Laden/alWaliki/al-Zwarkiri/Omar Mohammaad/Ghadan/ and a long list of others.


Aham? Then it is the republican Party of America protecting America by keep Nagging and talking ill a bout the preisndet of the country and calling for armed fight against the government through it,s tea party BS, which is Charlie Sheen wearing the belt Yeah?

All these guys you are talking a bout TT have been there when your kind of president had the power to take them out and what did he Exactly? barf

Your guys dreaming of and indirectly helping the enemy to attack America and you are still talking? I will not be wonder what so ever if some repube head endorsers looking the other way some day and making a real terror attack against America becoming a horrible reality some day...

Yes TT! Republican minded folks on sensitive positions are a serious threat against american security I am sure and their existens on sensitive positions will cost America major time I am afraid... Move to Arizona ASAP For ever repube heads and let America and the rest of the world Be ! uh oh
Oct 29, 2010 8:08 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
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So perhaps share some of your Obama wisdom with us Dude....what is Obama going to do about the growing Yemen threat?

He went to Afghanistan....said that is the 'war that has to be won'....yet we have attacks coming from Pakistan and Yemen. Seems to me, that he underestimated alQeada.

What do you think?

If you remember....I once said....this is not a group that you don't want to underestimate. But few were listening.
Oct 29, 2010 8:08 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: That is why he has a 20 point lead over a sitting governor and a sitting Senator....
It is probabely because there are a lot of Stupid in Florida then grin
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