It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America! (717)

Oct 17, 2010 8:03 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Oh so touchy... a republican is crying for a Yasir Affifi Get the hell out of here TT


We don't know the extent of the FBI tagging program. They make these tracker up by the 100s...even 1000s. Unless we investigate....like a Congressional hearing...we don't know.

We know that they did more than one.....indeed it sounds like DEA was doing a GPS tracker program as well. What were the White House orders concerning warrentless GPS tracker?

Remember now....unlike the GWB administration, President Obama runs a micro managed White House. We might end looking at teh very documents that he signed to originate the program.

Yasir Affifi...is a American Muslim....he has the same Constitutional rights as any American. And spider sense is saying that they were breached.
Oct 17, 2010 8:16 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
mjames: You are right; the tea party and all the mindless Right wingers said NOTHING when Bush was taking away our rights, passing 2 bills to lower vets benefits, and putting us in the worst financial crisis in history.

Whoever the next president was, was going to be doomed because the right wing were going to put the blame on them.

That's why right wingers are un American. They are traitors and should be kicked out of the country. They dont' care about the U.S., they care about the Republican party.

To be honest there are many in the far left that are just as bad.

Any idiot backing a political party blindly is a fool and you should never listen to them.

Politicians are all the same. They sell out to special interest groups, and there only worry is getting re elected.

Americans are so uneducated and uninformed that the rest of the world laughs at us and we are now the joke of the world.


Well said mjames! Welcome to this thread... keep participating please! It is only me and all these republican endorsers in this threat right now and I really hope people with different ideologies conversing in here! cheers
Oct 17, 2010 8:19 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Welcome to the Obama thread, MJames. It is good anger management and most definitely therapeutic.

If you cannot take a joke, don't stay around. Because next one of these you post.....I will personally take it apart.

Note I did not say, I will take it personally.....and then take it apart.
You really hate it when an american kicks your guy,s butts TT... don,t you?tongue dancing
Oct 17, 2010 9:00 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ladybee42: i bet you are not even american - you spell like a scammer

JMO


You won the bet lady and my spelling is all right as long as I can make my points and if i can,t... so what? tongue
Oct 17, 2010 9:01 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ladybee42: sorry - i'm tired - that post was meant for the OP!
OOPs! Sorry angel blushing
Oct 17, 2010 9:19 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: People don't die in Europe, Dude? Come on now. We both know they do. Houses burn down in Socialist countries as well. Beside a propper health care system is one this is easily understood. Obamacare in its glorious 2300 pages is just a wee bit short there.

Don't worry the new Congress will get a new health care passed. President obama then can sign it or reniege on his campaign promise regarding getting health care for the country.

Good and evil? LOL.....you are really trying to make this like Star War.......the Dark Side......the Force.....the Dark Side.....the Force.
Dude, it is politics, and this election is to form a government. Not Stephen Spielburg and the next Star War movie.

Both parties have good people and some bad ones as well. There are a few rotten apples in every group. Obama had a chance to take the good people of the REP party into his government. Take their ideas, respect their elections and the people that voted them in. Did he do that? No.

He decided to run a single party gov't. He was elected to be the President of the United States...of all the people. But he choose to represent the only a coliation group of the country. That opened the door ....a power vacumm for teh Tea Party to develop. He did to himself, Dude.


What good ideas TT? what did your people with their "good" ideas did to America not too many years a go? Are you really out of your mind or what? The good people of the REP party into his government? Even one Gates from republican party is a horrible mistake for gud sake! Reppublicans into Obama government? For what exactly? For destroying his attempts furter more or endangering him self and his familiy,s personal safty or some thing? America was fed up with your guys and got rid of them TT... Is this idea of urs because of the Beans you wrote you ate earlier TT... some sorts of beans can give hallicunation TT... watch out what you Eat! laugh
Oct 17, 2010 9:40 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Yemen has a constitution that restricts extradiction. alAwaliki cannot be extradited to the US by the Yemen gov't.

So you admit his Muslim outreach program is failing or has failed? That Muslim terrorist are still going to come at the country even though he reached out, apologized, sent Imans Rauf on funding trips for the NY Mosque... You mean that they are still going to try to kill Americans after he would let them build a New York Mosque near ground zero?

So why outreach in the first place? To be nice? To talk while they attack, so world says the US is a mature, humane and decent country? To be diplomatic?

Here is my take. By doing the Islamic outreach program....he placed Islamic pressure on Iran to come to the table. Pres. A says he would talk nuclear material and weapons but a term.....that Israel have its nuclear programs inspected.

Yep, Pres. A put a condition to talks that Israel will near surely refuse.And you can kiss the talks good bye.

He came to the table from a weak position, Dude. Some are trying hard to change that. Honest.


This Imam Rauf have been an american citizen in 31 years and was hired by Geroge W Bush of yours and still works in benefit of the american government, as the one promoting real american values to american muslims and creating anti radicalism amoung muslims and showing to other muslims in other countries that America is not against Islam but against Terrorism! the same Rauf guy,s plan is to run this cultural center by muslims, jews and christians and actually the exact same building have been used as a mosque in the basemnet for years and years and the community over there have been voting with great majority for this project and only ten procent of the building will actually being a Mosque! You Never see any other american programs as Fox News TT do you? Really Fox have made you staying totaly out of touch woth reality and it is rather silly for a guy like you keep staying with a comedy channel which is partly paid by foregin powers who want to stop american pro environmental efforts to sell you more oil!

Watch more gathered and balanced and serious american news programs TT... Watching 60 minutes? They have made a good one a bout this project near ground Zero.. watch it and learn more TT:



It is rather odd to experience americans like you never watching any thing else than Fox news to get their news a real defeat to
sanity and creating too biosed points of views which can lead to stupid actions even by some stupid minds over there with all respect for you of course TT !uh oh

Just imagine if a guy like John McCain tells "Get You News From FOX"... then there is some thing deifnately wrong a bout Fox news for gud sake!

And NO !!!!!!!!!! CBS is not a commmunist blah blha blah some thing TT even they know Glenn Beck is a stupid anti american buzo whose ADHD have never been treated and lives in a cheese box when ever not on TV!
Oct 17, 2010 9:45 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
25% of those that voted for Obama in 2008 are ready to vote for REP and Tea party canidates.



25% of Obama 57m voters is......14.25m voters. 1/2 are motivated enough to vote. That makes it around 7.0m that are voting against the DEMs.

This supports the primary results were the REP and Tea Party has vast numbers of new voters, than in 2008.

If this poll is accurate, then the Obama coliation of 2008 has been eroded to its base. The moderate and independant that voted for him have shifted to the REP/TEA Party.

Whether Pres. Obama can find new young voters for the incumbant DEMs has to be a question. To replace this 25% lose. He was the star of 2008. Getting the youth voter to vote for a old incumbant....with out star power....He has been hitting the major mid west college campuses.

Today at the University of Wisconsin/Ohio State game....the entire Wisconsin student body shook keys.....not sure it was a tradition or a was from President Obama plea to keep the keys to the car. He was at the WI campus last week for a rally. He did Ohio State today..... but they were not so happy....having been bounced from number 1 in the country by Wisconsin.

He is traveling to many midwest states and then to west coast in the great search of 2010. But the field has expanded. He cannot help all the DEM that are in trouble. With the DNC reducing thier funding to many canidiate.

One political analysist said there are 97 races in question. Of those 90 were DEMs and only 7 were REP. Even if the REP split the 90....they gain a majority in the house.
Oct 17, 2010 10:02 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Hypocracy of republicans specially is so disgusting:



doh
Oct 17, 2010 10:07 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: This Imam Rauf have been an american citizen in 31 years and was hired by Geroge W Bush of yours and still works in benefit of the american government, as the one promoting real american values to american muslims and creating anti radicalism amoung muslims and showing to other muslims in other countries that America is not against Islam but against Terrorism! the same Rauf guy,s plan is to run this cultural center by muslims, jews and christians and actually the exact same building have been used as a mosque in the basemnet for years and years and the community over there have been voting with great majority for this project and only ten procent of the building will actually being a Mosque! You Never see any other american programs as Fox News TT do you? Really Fox have made you staying totaly out of touch woth reality and it is rather silly for a guy like you keep staying with a comedy channel which is partly paid by foregin powers who want to stop american pro environmental efforts to sell you more oil!

Watch more gathered and balanced and serious american news programs TT... Watching 60 minutes? They have made a good one a bout this project near ground Zero.. watch it and learn more TT:



It is rather odd to experience americans like you never watching any thing else than Fox news to get their news a real defeat to
sanity and creating too biosed points of views which can lead to stupid actions even by some stupid minds over there with all respect for you of course TT !

Just imagine if a guy like John McCain tells "Get You News From FOX"... then there is some thing deifnately wrong a bout Fox news for gud sake!

And NO !!!!!!!!!! CBS is not a commmunist blah blha blah some thing TT even they know Glenn Beck is a stupid anti american buzo whose ADHD have never been treated and lives in a cheese box when ever not on TV!


Dude, Rauf wanted a Sharia Law complaint facility in the US. The Muslims have played this tactic for years.....it is the way they expanded into new lands for generations. It is a about global expanse of their faith.

You don't see anything wrong with this expanse. But I assure you...that they would not be tagging Muslim cars with GPS devices, would not be fighting in Afghanistan, unless Washington....including Barack Obama felt there was a problem with it.

Now fine....France just issued another major terrorist warning....received from that group of Suadi that you say are funding REP. Who do you think kept Saudi from going into the terrorist camp?
Just maybe it was the two Bush...Bush senior that defeat Sadam Hussien after Kuwait. And GWB that took Sadam down. This relationship has been developed over years of time. Barack Obama just brought Condi Rice in for talks.....he brings her in to understand the middle east dynamic better. Seems Barack Obama is liking those REP ideas more and more.
Oct 17, 2010 10:08 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Oct 17, 2010 10:20 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude, Rauf wanted a Sharia Law complaint facility in the US. The Muslims have played this tactic for years.....it is the way they expanded into new lands for generations. It is a about global expanse of their faith.

You don't see anything wrong with this expanse. But I assure you...that they would not be tagging Muslim cars with GPS devices, would not be fighting in Afghanistan, unless Washington....including Barack Obama felt there was a problem with it.

Now fine....France just issued another major terrorist warning....received from that group of Suadi that you say are funding REP. Who do you think kept Saudi from going into the terrorist camp?
Just maybe it was the two Bush...Bush senior that defeat Sadam Hussien after Kuwait. And GWB that took Sadam down. This relationship has been developed over years of time. Barack Obama just brought Condi Rice in for talks.....he brings her in to understand the middle east dynamic better. Seems Barack Obama is liking those REP ideas more and more.


They have not got the money yet for this project which costs around a hundred million dollers TT and if they get the money and the city is for the project then they will make it and America is a free society where the freedom of beleif is a human right and have been for years as a matter of fact.

Muslims do not need support of the republicans I am sure because if they beleive that they make sure their lives and well beings will be endangered... and no minorities must ever trust republicans after your guys and their out raged behaviour after Obama won the presidency and beofre that as well.

GPS devices will be placed on those who autorities suspect are involved in anti security activities and if the person got nothing to hide then he or she will not be procecuted of course. I know your main concern is a bout some body gets good recordings of what is going on in republican getherings all over America and giving it to the media form Wikileaks or some where, and that is why you all of sudden are worry a bout an american Muslim TT... surviolence is a tool which works and security of America matters not only for you guys but for the rest of the free world as well... Wikileaks is working to get some republican secret documents and recordings TT... watch out !

Palin must change her car as soon as possible and even being careful what her next car will be ... her car got a ten GPS devices at least and Beck,s car got a twenty some thing! laugh tongue
Oct 17, 2010 11:33 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
mjames: You are right; the tea party and all the mindless Right wingers said NOTHING when Bush was taking away our rights, passing 2 bills to lower vets benefits, and putting us in the worst financial crisis in history.

Whoever the next president was, was going to be doomed because the right wing were going to put the blame on them.

That's why right wingers are un American. They are traitors and should be kicked out of the country. They dont' care about the U.S., they care about the Republican party.
To be honest there are many in the far left that are just as bad.

Any idiot backing a political party blindly is a fool and you should never listen to them. Politicians are all the same. They sell out to special interest groups, and there only worry is getting re elected.

Americans are so uneducated and uninformed that the rest of the world laughs at us and we are now the joke of the world.
By god, we should have public hangings. No trials...by god you'll show'em.

Dude?


I thought when Obama got elected we were going to be respected throughout the world since he was intellectually superior. dunno
Oct 17, 2010 11:47 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Since you concider your self as the "Grand Master of Science and politics and psychology and environment and economy and americna matters" in here Conrad ... tell me a bout how many times Geroge W Bush Vetoed and why and regarding what, and by that shifted the country toward more republicanism and irresponsible policies of the party?


Come into the 2010 mid terms, Dude. The world and CS await your return to the present. Historical gagging on GWB is not going to change what is going to happen in 14 days.

So please come into the present. The last two year have been all DEM and the country did not like what it was fed. So time to man up. Because this could be a historic wave time.
Oct 18, 2010 11:38 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Operation Anaconda continues to roll on. Taliban supply line are being interdicted. This is also part of the General Scott's SW Indian campaign.
He began to interdict supplies being sent to Germinmo and Chocise. The US Army never forgets a good old trick.

The German General Boltz in Afghanistan said that evidence is showing the Taliban are receiving faulty ammo and weapons thru their supply lines. Also that the Taliban is imposing a broader village tax to support thier operation.

Taxes are not liked anyplace. So look for more villagers to start to tip on the Taliban.

Boltz went on to say...that in the last two weeks 6 Taliban leaders have been killed and a another arrested in his western district. That is near daily contact with the enemy....exactly Operation Anaconda what is suppose to do. 3 large cache of weapon have been found. And 3000 kilo of narcotics seized. They detected and destroyed a weapons factory making IEDs with a airstrike.

Seem the 72 hour wait rule has been changed.....))

While on the other side of this....in Pakistan.....the supply route was opened only to have 11 guards killed in a tanker assault.

So with winter quickly coming, the question is....does Operation Anaconda continue or end? My bet is if General Petreuas has his way....some GI and NATO force are going to cold feet soon and being wearing white winter BDUs. Command will want to continue this thru wintertime. There in steps the Commander in Chief to make one his bigger decision on the conflict.

While in Isreal, Netanhayu just said that Hamas has anti aircraft missiles. He does not give evidence. Hamas says he trying to create a situation for further Israeli military operation in Gaza.

Nor does he give the type or kind of anti aircraft missile. But with the only access to GAZA via the tunnels into Egypt....likely these are shoulder fired missiles.

Iran has shoulder fired anti aircraft missiles. So we can guess at the supplier here. And if Hamas has them....pretty good chance now that other Iranian proxies in the region has them. Including alQeada.



So?

Iran supplying Hamas with shoulder fired missile is likely in response to Israel and Saudi getting US weapons. Tit for a tat kind of thing.
The other question is will Hamas hit the reseller market with them?
Supplying them to terrorists group in region, Europe and America.
Remember the 2009 Jordian Bomber Smadi was going to go to Gaza to join Hamas. So Hamas has contact with radical Islamic in the world.
Oct 18, 2010 1:53 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude, Rauf wanted a Sharia Law complaint facility in the US. The Muslims have played this tactic for years.....it is the way they expanded into new lands for generations. It is a about global expanse of their faith.

You don't see anything wrong with this expanse. But I assure you...that they would not be tagging Muslim cars with GPS devices, would not be fighting in Afghanistan, unless Washington....including Barack Obama felt there was a problem with it.

Now fine....France just issued another major terrorist warning....received from that group of Suadi that you say are funding REP. Who do you think kept Saudi from going into the terrorist camp?
Just maybe it was the two Bush...Bush senior that defeat Sadam Hussien after Kuwait. And GWB that took Sadam down. This relationship has been developed over years of time. Barack Obama just brought Condi Rice in for talks.....he brings her in to understand the middle east dynamic better. Seems Barack Obama is liking those REP ideas more and more.


And still TT... Rauf have been Imam for many years and have been a moderate muslim and hired by the Bushney,s them selves to help the american government in understanding the situation and helping risen of communication and cooporation due to fight against terrorism and fenatism.

Bushney,s them selves hired this guy ... you know your "Hero",s, your kind of symbols of real americanism and stuff like that Hired this Rauf guy Mister TT ... Chew on this and relax a little and stop being hypocrat as the entire stablishment of the republican party of America! Have american muslims also Rauf of course helped stopping terror plans against US of A ? I am sure they have! Remeber that muslim guy called the police and told them a bout the suspicious car and then a terror attack against America was stopped lately TT? I know... that disturbed your guys and their "partying" after attack against America some how but still the terrorist is a muslim and the one who stopped his evil plan is a muslim as well! I know I am like talking to a Wall but still ...

If You really want to be a tea partier TT then oak... do it and reveal some of those horrible and criminal elements of the republican party and become a kind of tea party Hero instead?

You are really sure America will all going Teaparty soon then what the hell... leave these repube heads because they have been not good for any thing what so ever when all counts!

It is all BS TT! you and ur guys are republicans who blow up a bunch of mostly silly types with no knowledge a bout any thing what so ever and using millions of ur tax cheating money for sending folks to the treets of America shouting Kill Kill Kill ... because you are counting on their victory means republican victory ... pretty silly strategy I am sure.

too Wild dogs biting their owners as well , never allow ur dog run too wild wink
Oct 18, 2010 2:25 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Freddie.....MJames is American. LOL.....some time it hard to tell them apart......
Right TT... only repube heads are "real" americans in ur eyes... you are so so damn wrong a bout this assumption of urs and actually this assumption of urs shows the real face of the Republican party of America and how deep going ur party is dammageing America and it,s wonderful people! Your guys are dinasors of the dark past and belong to museums and should all move to Arizona for ever and having their own country and expelled from America !doh
Oct 18, 2010 3:08 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Come into the 2010 mid terms, Dude. The world and CS await your return to the present. Historical gagging on GWB is not going to change what is going to happen in 14 days.

So please come into the present. The last two year have been all DEM and the country did not like what it was fed. So time to man up. Because this could be a historic wave time.


What you write a bout my post does not help you TT! The point is your guys keep telling America a bout democrats have had the majority in the last four years and you are blaming them for the stiaution America got in to and that is not totaly right any way!

Your Geroge W Bush vetoed a lot legislations and did not allow democrats taking care of their jobs and America went bank rupcy and american died because of lack of health care coverage and alqueda got stronger and the list is long and bloody!

Only after Obama became president democrats majority got an opportunity to make positive changes possible and of course... Obama unfortunatily made the ultimate mistake and that is trying to get republicans cooporation and he should deifnately not and just kept ur guys absoloutely out of any kind of infleunces but by now he knows much better!

Not even two years have passed and less than two years is much less than the necessary time needed to recover America after darkness!

Go hail the stupid tea party Express of the Crazy witch hunter of urs and enjoy how many of ur own guys are loosing to these people and got to call to Koch and blaming him for this huge stupid plan of ur guys!
Oct 18, 2010 3:09 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: What you write a bout my post does not help you TT! The point is your guys keep telling America a bout democrats have had the majority in the last four years and you are blaming them for the stiaution America got in to and that is not totaly right any way!

Your Geroge W Bush vetoed a lot legislations and did not allow democrats taking care of their jobs and America went bank rupcy and american died because of lack of health care coverage and alqueda got stronger and the list is long and bloody!

Only after Obama became president democrats majority got an opportunity to make positive changes possible and of course... Obama unfortunatily made the ultimate mistake and that is trying to get republicans cooporation and he should deifnately not and just kept ur guys absoloutely out of any kind of infleunces but by now he knows much better!

Not even two years have passed and less than two years is much less than the necessary time needed to recover America after darkness!

Go hail the stupid tea party Express of the Crazy witch hunter of urs and enjoy how many of ur own guys are loosing to these people and got to call to Koch and blaming him for this huge stupid plan of ur guys!
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Oct 18, 2010 3:13 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: What you write a bout my post does not help you TT! The point is your guys keep telling America a bout democrats have had the majority in the last four years and you are blaming them for the stiaution America got in to and that is not totaly right any way!

Your Geroge W Bush vetoed a lot legislations and did not allow democrats taking care of their jobs and America went bank rupcy and american died because of lack of health care coverage and alqueda got stronger and the list is long and bloody!

Only after Obama became president democrats majority got an opportunity to make positive changes possible and of course... Obama unfortunatily made the ultimate mistake and that is trying to get republicans cooporation and he should deifnately not and just kept ur guys absoloutely out of any kind of infleunces but by now he knows much better!

Not even two years have passed and less than two years is much less than the necessary time needed to recover America after darkness!

Go hail the stupid tea party Express of the Crazy witch hunter of urs and enjoy how many of ur own guys are loosing to these people and got to call to Koch and blaming him for this huge stupid plan of ur guys!



Still waiting for that positive change dude. We're still at 10% unemployment. Starvation everywhere. People homeless and helpless. I'd say America is in the darkness. rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 18, 2010 3:18 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: What you write a bout my post does not help you TT! The point is your guys keep telling America a bout democrats have had the majority in the last four years and you are blaming them for the stiaution America got in to and that is not totaly right any way!

Your Geroge W Bush vetoed a lot legislations and did not allow democrats taking care of their jobs and America went bank rupcy and american died because of lack of health care coverage and alqueda got stronger and the list is long and bloody!

Only after Obama became president democrats majority got an opportunity to make positive changes possible and of course... Obama unfortunatily made the ultimate mistake and that is trying to get republicans cooporation and he should deifnately not and just kept ur guys absoloutely out of any kind of infleunces but by now he knows much better!

Not even two years have passed and less than two years is much less than the necessary time needed to recover America after darkness!

Go hail the stupid tea party Express of the Crazy witch hunter of urs and enjoy how many of ur own guys are loosing to these people and got to call to Koch and blaming him for this huge stupid plan of ur guys!


Bill Clinton 36 1 37 2 5% 6%
George W. Bush 11 1 12 4 33% 36%

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Most presidential vetoes: Franklin D. Roosevelt (635)rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 18, 2010 3:19 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Conrad73: Bill Clinton 36
George W. Bush 11


Most presidential vetoes: Franklin D. Roosevelt (635)
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Oct 18, 2010 3:21 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Conrad73: Bill Clinton 36 1 37 2 5% 6%
George W. Bush 11 1 12 4 33% 36%



Most presidential vetoes: Franklin D. Roosevelt (635)



Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
delray316
delray316delray316poplar grove, Illinois USA1 Threads 21 Posts
Foreign interests and foreign companys have figured out the only way to make money "Capitalize" on the worker. It is a means of making money off the sweat of someone else's back. It does'nt matter if you are Republicant or a Dematard your fate has already been sealed. Dont think for one millisecond that your vote or the vote of the masses will make one bit of difference, what people dont realize is that political parties and the ruling class , absolutly count on Dems saying that Repubs are greedy and Repubs sayin Dems redistribute wealth. The fact is the ruling class have no experience in the real world. They have never had to worry about how to feed their family or provide shelter for them. Everything has been gifted to them ie. oppertunity,schooling,money,respect,and so on and so forth.The only thing that people in America have to rely on is their ability to forrige or hunt and provide for themselves and their families,the ability to shelter ,the ability to fight. Things are bad now economiclly but they absolutly are gonna get worse. As long as people are concerned about what is happening on dancing with the stars or what snooky or kim cardashian is doin this country is for sure doomed to repeat the fate of past great civilizations. People may or may not know this but when one forgets history they are likely to repeat it so get ready for the fall of a great SUPERPOWER aka America !!!
Oct 18, 2010 3:53 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes


You are still doing as u always do and all right winged always do and that is to name a part of some thing and then laughing and trying to make people laugh with you forgetting the whole thing. now Conrad... Tell me what legislations Geroge W Bush vetoed and what was the result? when did he Veto and for what? what group of americsnd enjoyed George W Bush and his vetoes and what gropu of people were damamged in America because of his vetoes? the whole regim of Geroge W Bush was all a bout supporting the rights of the rich and not giving a damn a bout the right of americans generally and to make sure no legislations suggested by democrats for example would thread privilages of the rich... GWB vetoed very politically and very one sided and just due the profit of his personal strong supprters and his mafia styled regim dammaged America as never before in american history. Want to talk vetoes then talk a bout them ... each and every Veto of George W Bush and name detailes and explain more ... I know a bout the whole thing, but I dont want to share it with you because I stand firm with Geore W Bush regim and also his Vetoes is the main reason of this bad economical situation of America but you claim the opposite ... then Explain? Use what ever brain capacity you got and tell more and proof your claims.

Looking at Wikipedia and pasting some numbers does not solve this situation what so ever conrad... you beleive Bush vetoes was not bad for american economy for example and is not one of the reasons of the status quo in America for example... oak... explain then?
Oct 18, 2010 3:59 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
delray316: Foreign interests and foreign companys have figured out the only way to make money "Capitalize" on the worker. It is a means of making money off the sweat of someone else's back. It does'nt matter if you are Republicant or a Dematard your fate has already been sealed. Dont think for one millisecond that your vote or the vote of the masses will make one bit of difference, what people dont realize is that political parties and the ruling class , absolutly count on Dems saying that Repubs are greedy and Repubs sayin Dems redistribute wealth. The fact is the ruling class have no experience in the real world. They have never had to worry about how to feed their family or provide shelter for them. Everything has been gifted to them ie. oppertunity,schooling,money,respect,and so on and so forth.The only thing that people in America have to rely on is their ability to forrige or hunt and provide for themselves and their families,the ability to shelter ,the ability to fight. Things are bad now economiclly but they absolutly are gonna get worse. As long as people are concerned about what is happening on dancing with the stars or what snooky or kim cardashian is doin this country is for sure doomed to repeat the fate of past great civilizations. People may or may not know this but when one forgets history they are likely to repeat it so get ready for the fall of a great SUPERPOWER aka America !!!


Welcome to this thread delray cheers
Oct 18, 2010 4:39 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Oct 18, 2010 5:06 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Dude does it concern you that the only sites you list here are huffington?
FOX is most watched cable news network in the world. Giving it some respectability on both side of the aisle. Huffingtonpost is seldom read outside of the liberal community.

They had Huffington on FOX's Huckabee the other night, Dude. She did not melt. But she did not get much of her blogs posted either. They were talking the coming REP/Tea Party wave....she had little to say on the matter.

Huckabee brought her on for cannon fodder. They did not fire salvo after salvo into the poor woman.....they did show some mercy here......but her knowledge of American politics is framed from a European opinion. It pays the bills to put this stuff online, but respectable journalism?
Oct 18, 2010 5:12 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: What you write a bout my post does not help you TT! The point is your guys keep telling America a bout democrats have had the majority in the last four years and you are blaming them for the stiaution America got in to and that is not totaly right any way!

Your Geroge W Bush vetoed a lot legislations and did not allow democrats taking care of their jobs and America went bank rupcy and american died because of lack of health care coverage and alqueda got stronger and the list is long and bloody!

Only after Obama became president democrats majority got an opportunity to make positive changes possible and of course... Obama unfortunatily made the ultimate mistake and that is trying to get republicans cooporation and he should deifnately not and just kept ur guys absoloutely out of any kind of infleunces but by now he knows much better!

Not even two years have passed and less than two years is much less than the necessary time needed to recover America after darkness!

Go hail the stupid tea party Express of the Crazy witch hunter of urs and enjoy how many of ur own guys are loosing to these people and got to call to Koch and blaming him for this huge stupid plan of ur guys!


You have not seen vetos till the next two year come. President Obma is going to run out of ink in signing them. He will know the difference between the pocket veto, the full bill veto, the partial bill veto, the half breast stroke veto, the jump over the hoops veto, the shovel ready veto,....they are still making vetos in the Federal Government printing office that President Obama will use. The printer has been running full speed since they passed Obamacare. grin
Oct 18, 2010 5:15 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Conrad73: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes


It was those 11 vetos that did the DEM in Conrad. Just drove their agenda into the ground....and ruined the country. GWB had it planned from teh beginning. Win the election of 2004 by a chad. Then drive the DEM out of Washington with 11 vetos.laugh
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