It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America! (717)

Nov 1, 2010 5:56 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
DonAllRighty: Dude, the American people will decide tomorrow if you are right or wrong about any of your ravings on this site. Since you are not an American Citizen and not entitled to vote in our elections
you will have to accept and live with the results just as we Americans will.

I disagree with more than 95% of your wild misinformed postings on here and write it off as just another meddling foreigner who does not understand America, its people, its values or its realistic functioning of our imperfect political system.

I make a challenge to you to stop posting any of this anti Republican, pro President Obama, pro Democratic, liberal, socialist garbage. Your postings show a vast amount of ignorance of the true values of the American People.

If the Republicans regain control of the the House or Senate or both I ask you to man up, admit you are wrong and stop posting your uninformed, unreliable and totally biased self serving opinion's.

I will offer in return to never reply to any of your postings on the subject of American politics, politicians or our two party system which you do not fully comprehend.

Do you accept my challege?

Yes or No with no conditions.

Respectfully,

DonAllRighty


No and Hell No with all respect scold

You are more than welcome to reply my posts or not... the choice is urs and I have the right to wrtie as well and of course... what ever America decides I can not do any thing what so ever a bout but I do have the right to mean what I want a bout it and I will keep posting my threads as long as I want to.

You call my posts garbedge and blah blah blah like that and so what? You think you are the first one trying to make me shut up over here Don? Or you beleive I am kind of "scared" reading your meanings a bout my posts or replying your messages or some thing?

I am writing these posts becasue I care a bout America and I want america to success and I am disgusted by seeing republicans with holding a whole countryas hositge with their stupid agenda a bout making the presidency fail no matter the price and no matter how the country needs recovery ASAP!

Get in and write and bash on my posts or what ever you wish Don... This is a free froum and people have the right to cotribute or staying off!

Go support your anti m**turbation stoopidoes of the Republican party, who cares? laugh

It is way off beleiving only a real american can be allowed to have a meaning a bout America and as I am concerned I am supporting the elected president of the United States and wish a certain recovery of America ASAP, and want America to success , so if you want to calling me bad words or beleive I have no right to these ideas, then Your problem and not mine professor

Welcome to this thread by the way... be my guest and Bash on miser! cheers
Nov 1, 2010 6:01 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: No and Hell No with all respect

You are more than welcome to reply my posts or not... the choice is urs and I have the right to wrtie as well and of course... what ever America decides I can not do any thing what so ever a bout but I do have the right to mean what I want a bout it and I will keep posting my threads as long as I want to.

You call my posts garbedge and blah blah blah like that and so what? You think you are the first one trying to make me shut up over here Don? Or you beleive I am kind of "scared" reading your meanings a bout my posts or replying your messages or some thing?

I am writing these posts becasue I care a bout America and I want america to success and I am disgusted by seeing republicans with holding a whole countryas hositge with their stupid agenda a bout making the presidency fail no matter the price and no matter how the country needs recovery ASAP!

Get in and write and bash on my posts or what ever you wish Don... This is a free froum and people have the right to cotribute or staying off!

Go support your anti m**turbation stoopidoes of the Republican party, who cares?

It is way off beleiving only a real american can be allowed to have a meaning a bout America and as I am concerned I am supporting the elected president of the United States and wish a certain recovery of America ASAP, and want America to success , so if you want to calling me bad words or beleive I have no right to these ideas, then Your problem and not mine

Welcome to this thread by the way... be my guest and Bash on miser!
Hope you got you Imodium,and Wooden Plug,Dude!rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 1, 2010 6:20 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
By the way TT... have you heard a bout Russia is finally entering the war in Afghanistan for real and have participated in the first joint military mission to crush drug cartels over there?



This is THE way forward defeating these bad guys in Afghanistan and Karsai knows this and that is why he is angry laugh

You did not beleive me a bout this one either TT when I told Russia is going to cooporate for real with America and others defeating Taliban and Alqueda in Afghanistan and now you can see I was right Again! If your guys going to get majoriteis of boith houses tommorow...

Are your guys going to begin a new war of words against Russia or what? what a bout your Netty? Are your guys making a call and briniging him in ur fight a gaisnt this cooporation with Russia? Russia and America together can certainly bringing an end to this stupid war in Afghanistan and Pakistan and then you "firends" in Taliban will be defeated for sure and then who is going to support the Republican Fear machine in America?

I think this news a bout a real militray cooporation sounds fabulous! Russians knowing these guys and their methods very well and the battle will be eased major time I promise you.

Ant plans from republicans against this cooporation you wish to share? I really like it when former "enemies" begining to work to gether and toward the same goal and in the benefit of whole humanity and beleive this is because America under president Obama is very good making former enemies understanding what the common good means! Saw on iranian english news tv they were really really mad at Russia because of this and Karsai easily seen high almost cried because of this great event!yay
Nov 1, 2010 6:22 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Kattsrose: What the HELL do you know about what her, or for that matter my knowledge or experiences are?

You are the one blindly following a party line, not the Katt, not her family and not me.


Told you so.....grin
Nov 1, 2010 6:25 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Kattsrose
KattsroseKattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA52 Threads 4 Polls 911 Posts
ttom500: Told you so.....


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dunno
Nov 1, 2010 6:29 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: By the way TT... have you heard a bout Russia is finally entering the war in Afghanistan for real and have participated in the first joint military mission to crush drug cartels over there?



This is THE way forward defeating these bad guys in Afghanistan and Karsai knows this and that is why he is angry

You did not beleive me a bout this one either TT when I told Russia is going to cooporate for real with America and others defeating Taliban and Alqueda in Afghanistan and now you can see I was right Again! If your guys going to get majoriteis of boith houses tommorow...

Are your guys going to begin a new war of words against Russia or what? what a bout your Netty? Are your guys making a call and briniging him in ur fight a gaisnt this cooporation with Russia? Russia and America together can certainly bringing an end to this stupid war in Afghanistan and Pakistan and then you "firends" in Taliban will be defeated for sure and then who is going to support the Republican Fear machine in America?

I think this news a bout a real militray cooporation sounds fabulous! Russians knowing these guys and their methods very well and the battle will be eased major time I promise you.

Ant plans from republicans against this cooporation you wish to share? I really like it when former "enemies" begining to work to gether and toward the same goal and in the benefit of whole humanity and beleive this is because America under president Obama is very good making former enemies understanding what the common good means! Saw on iranian english news tv they were really really mad at Russia because of this and Karsai easily seen high almost cried because of this great event!


That is good Dude. I have no problem with Russians going joint counter drug op in Afghanistan. Just stay out our way as we do Operation Anaconda.
Nov 1, 2010 6:30 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Kattsrose: ?
Earlier, I mentioned that Dude was going to 'tasked' for posting like that.
Nov 1, 2010 6:33 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
DonAllRighty
DonAllRightyDonAllRightyGastonia, North Carolina USA5 Posts
Thank you for your garbage reply it just shows you are a coward who would rather spout nonsense rather than accept when you are wrong. Yopu care nothing about the American people or or way of life you just want to stand on your soap box and preach foolish nonsense.

You are not man enough to take my challenge so you have proven to all the viewer's of your post what a small minded, inept,
bragart that you are. You only care about promoting your own childish views and making yourself look foolish.
Keep up the good work you are showing the world the real you.
Hot_Single_Dude: No and Hell No with all respect

You are more than welcome to reply my posts or not... the choice is urs and I have the right to wrtie as well and of course... what ever America decides I can not do any thing what so ever a bout but I do have the right to mean what I want a bout it and I will keep posting my threads as long as I want to.

You call my posts garbedge and blah blah blah like that and so what? You think you are the first one trying to make me shut up over here Don? Or you beleive I am kind of "scared" reading your meanings a bout my posts or replying your messages or some thing?

I am writing these posts becasue I care a bout America and I want america to success and I am disgusted by seeing republicans with holding a whole countryas hositge with their stupid agenda a bout making the presidency fail no matter the price and no matter how the country needs recovery ASAP!

Get in and write and bash on my posts or what ever you wish Don... This is a free froum and people have the right to cotribute or staying off!

Go support your anti m**turbation stoopidoes of the Republican party, who cares?

It is way off beleiving only a real american can be allowed to have a meaning a bout America and as I am concerned I am supporting the elected president of the United States and wish a certain recovery of America ASAP, and want America to success , so if you want to calling me bad words or beleive I have no right to these ideas, then Your problem and not mine

Welcome to this thread by the way... be my guest and Bash on miser!
Nov 1, 2010 6:35 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Kattsrose: What the HELL do you know about what her, or for that matter my knowledge or experiences are?

You are the one blindly following a party line, not the Katt, not her family and not me.



Now Dude, ya pissed both of them off now! I'd lay low! devil
Nov 1, 2010 6:43 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: That is good Dude. I have no problem with Russians going joint counter drug op in Afghanistan. Just stay out our way as we do Operation Anaconda.


Actually this is the first step TT and Russia is going to become a part of operation Anaconda and Beyond... there is an old matter to solve for Russia and they are really mad of these Talibaneese and their support of Chechens and the russian humiliation during the occupation of Afghanistan... wink

I Told you So but you never beleived me tongue
Nov 1, 2010 7:03 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Freddie don't be fleeing, before this one is over.....a referee is going to be needed. We are in the lull before the storm.


If you are talking a bout results of the election tomorrow TT... there wont be a Storm but a "kind of" storm and a sign a bout democrats really need to hold them selves to gether and participating more in politics and not allowing them selves getting fooled by the same people who have created this mess in America!

If you guys really getting majorites in both houses...America will suffer mostly because your guys main agenda is to stop furter unemployment benefits, cutting social security, stopping health care reforms, confusing the mission in Afghnaistan and a whole other horrible stuff all aimed to create more and more unemployment and desperation as well and making the army of gun and bible clingers bigger and making the ground ready for another disaterous lousy republican president in America already in 2012! The whole pile of american problems need to get solved ASAP is definately NOT your guys agenda and actually you got no ideas how to solve these problems and are there for presidnetial election and making sure your lobbyist friends getting more influence once again.
Nov 1, 2010 7:27 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
LOL....Joe Biden finally got into the mid term spirit. He says that if the REP take the House and Senate...it will become the Tong War for the next two years.

Ain't that something!.....the tong war was was Chinese gang fighting each other over turf and drug. The Vice President of the United States....a 30 year member of the Senate, associates a REP win tomorrow....to be like the bloody and violent Tong war of China.

When this kind of argument is used...it just means that he does not a solid political position or opinion. And is playing n the fear and emotions of the voters.

John Boehner said it....when he said...."they disrespect you". This argument is so trivial and inaccurate, it disrespect the intelligence of the American voter.

Biden of course is talking of Washington grid lock.....so just say Washington grid lock....but no....so association to violence has to be made.

You know this is a further....reflection of President Obama. Joe Biden was his choice for VP. He choose the man....of all the leading DEMs available....that could find more ways to insert shoe leather into facial openings than any man around.

Well it must be the Chinese influence on America after the T-Bill sale.
For Joe to associate us to the Tongs.
Nov 1, 2010 7:36 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: If you are talking a bout results of the election tomorrow TT... there wont be a Storm but a "kind of" storm and a sign a bout democrats really need to hold them selves to gether and participating more in politics and not allowing them selves getting fooled by the same people who have created this mess in America!

If you guys really getting majorites in both houses...America will suffer mostly because your guys main agenda is to stop furter unemployment benefits, cutting social security, stopping health care reforms, confusing the mission in Afghnaistan and a whole other horrible stuff all aimed to create more and more unemployment and desperation as well and making the army of gun and bible clingers bigger and making the ground ready for another disaterous lousy republican president in America already in 2012! The whole pile of american problems need to get solved ASAP is definately NOT your guys agenda and actually you got no ideas how to solve these problems and are there for presidnetial election and making sure your lobbyist friends getting more influence once again.


Am holding with my 60 seat prediction, Dude. I just heard the most recent nationwide poll on voter party preferences. 55% prefer REP. 40% prefer DEM 5% per small parties.

The different in the preference when Newt Grinrich took House control in the Clinton administration.....was 7%. This is 2 times that.

After Janauary 20th we can see if the rEP can use thier pick for legislation that the country likes. If they do....and they get Senate blocking and President vetos.....what does that do to Obama's and DEM 2012 hopes?

They just need to place solid legislation out there....that has the 60/40 position for a right central leaning populace...game over in 2012.
Nov 1, 2010 7:49 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: LOL....Joe Biden finally got into the mid term spirit. He says that if the REP take the House and Senate...it will become the Tong War for the next two years.

Ain't that something!.....the tong war was was Chinese gang fighting each other over turf and drug. The Vice President of the United States....a 30 year member of the Senate, associates a REP win tomorrow....to be like the bloody and violent Tong war of China.

When this kind of argument is used...it just means that he does not a solid political position or opinion. And is playing n the fear and emotions of the voters.

John Boehner said it....when he said...."they disrespect you". This argument is so trivial and inaccurate, it disrespect the intelligence of the American voter.

Biden of course is talking of Washington grid lock.....so just say Washington grid lock....but no....so association to violence has to be made.

You know this is a further....reflection of President Obama. Joe Biden was his choice for VP. He choose the man....of all the leading DEMs available....that could find more ways to insert shoe leather into facial openings than any man around.

Well it must be the Chinese influence on America after the T-Bill sale.
For Joe to associate us to the Tongs.


I heard it too and I think this is one of the very best way of describing the situation of republicans gaining majorities in both houses. Tang war even is too soft but the man have to hold on and not using harder language unfortunatily dunno

This Tang war he refers to is a bout the harder situation all americans suffering from unemployment and poverty, the brave american militray men and women fightign for the sake of us all in Afghanistan, all those americans suffering from lack of a propper health care coverage because of being poor or unemployed and what ever other situations the american government have to take care of ASAP is going become a certain Hostige of the Republican party of America and their foreign funders who do not want Obama administration to success !

Obama administration and the democratic party of America are now facing a whole bunch of huge corporations and their militant repube heads and the battle is hard and will get even harder if tommorow means a real taking over of both houses by these Repube heads and their arab supporters who just care a bout ther bloody shares and personal incomes!

The job will get much harder and I am still sure Obama administration will take care of issues even republicans have sweared to Repeal any thing and every thing this administration suggests...

Mr. Biden knows your tricks very well TT and that is one of the many reasons Obama honored him with this position.

There is only one of the mistakes of Obama that saddens me... the matter a bout his wish to work with republicans form the begining... Biden was not very happy a bout this choice of Obama and warned him against this...Biden was right and I wish Obama had ignored republicans major time and had made faster progress possible for America that way.

Democrats really will need to hold them selves to gether and doing what ever possible to weaken republicans and their possibilities to make the presidency fail. Republicnas are not doing it because Obama is that bad but just because they are worried a bout their personal investments in oil and war and health care industry and that is THE main thing which Sucks in to day,s America! moping
Nov 1, 2010 7:55 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Am holding with my 60 seat prediction, Dude. I just heard the most recent nationwide poll on voter party preferences. 55% prefer REP. 40% prefer DEM 5% per small parties.

The different in the preference when Newt Grinrich took House control in the Clinton administration.....was 7%. This is 2 times that.

After Janauary 20th we can see if the rEP can use thier pick for legislation that the country likes. If they do....and they get Senate blocking and President vetos.....what does that do to Obama's and DEM 2012 hopes?

They just need to place solid legislation out there....that has the 60/40 position for a right central leaning populace...game over in 2012.


I am not thinking your guys are going to get 60 seats... so let,s see what happens.

Yeah... democrats and the president are going to face a hard time if your prediction becomes real. Still... I feel it won,t become that bad for democrats tomorrow as you hope.

2012? Well both Reagan and Clinton had horrible midtterm ellections but they got reelected and Carter had a fabulous midttrum election and he became a one turm president only... you can definately not hoping too much for your guys winning 2012 election TT no matter the out come of tomorrow.
Nov 1, 2010 8:04 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I heard it too and I think this is one of the very best way of describing the situation of republicans gaining majorities in both houses. Tang war even is too soft but the man have to hold on and not using harder language unfortunatily

This Tang war he refers to is a bout the harder situation all americans suffering from unemployment and poverty, the brave american militray men and women fightign for the sake of us all in Afghanistan, all those americans suffering from lack of a propper health care coverage because of being poor or unemployed and what ever other situations the american government have to take care of ASAP is going become a certain Hostige of the Republican party of America and their foreign funders who do not want Obama administration to success !

Obama administration and the democratic party of America are now facing a whole bunch of huge corporations and their militant repube heads and the battle is hard and will get even harder if tommorow means a real taking over of both houses by these Repube heads and their arab supporters who just care a bout ther bloody shares and personal incomes!

The job will get much harder and I am still sure Obama administration will take care of issues even republicans have sweared to Repeal any thing and every thing this administration suggests...

Mr. Biden knows your tricks very well TT and that is one of the many reasons Obama honored him with this position.

There is only one of the mistakes of Obama that saddens me... the matter a bout his wish to work with republicans form the begining... Biden was not very happy a bout this choice of Obama and warned him against this...Biden was right and I wish Obama had ignored republicans major time and had made faster progress possible for America that way.

Democrats really will need to hold them selves to gether and doing what ever possible to weaken republicans and their possibilities to make the presidency fail. Republicnas are not doing it because Obama is that bad but just because they are worried a bout their personal investments in oil and war and health care industry and that is THE main thing which Sucks in to day,s America!


I love this...REP Tricks? My what do you think Obamacare was? There were so many back room deals in that they kept the Capitol janitors up all night cleaning out the back room that were closed to the country.
They did not want any reports or news leaks on it. That is how Obamacare was put together.....

And you have the nerve to say REP tricks?

Pres. Obama went out said REP are the enemy. Know what Boehner said in reply? He said....that for last 200 years when those same men and women stood for the country, stood against the wrongs of the world.....they are not the enemy....they are called patriots.

President Obama cannot even use the word. He and Biden have so distorted the principles of American patriotism that they need teleprompted messages to lead a croud. Men like Bohener, McCain and other REP leaders...seldom use the teleprompter. They speak from the heart.
Nov 1, 2010 8:33 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
Kattsrose: What the HELL do you know about what her, or for that matter my knowledge or experiences are?

You are the one blindly following a party line, not the Katt, not her family and not me.



You fought to protect me!!!!!


love
Nov 2, 2010 6:28 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
China just rejected the trilateral talk between China/Japan/US over the questioned Islands. Hillary C had met with her Chinese counterpart wa....and suggest the US host the three in talks.

China refused by saying the Islands were part of mainland China and were not for negotiations. I quote.

"It must be pointed out that the Diaoyu Islands are part of mainland China, and the dispute between China and Japan is one between the two countries." Said Wa.

China is not going to let the Obama administration start to be world's peace maker here.

I suspect that this is the same Chinese position now for NKorea and SKorea, for the middle east peace agreements.

Well.....hmmmm......maybe time for the world to take a really close look at China's currency practices. From the UN to WTO, I wonder how much those Islands can cost the Chinese? Maybe a time for a multi national colaition to set up a global trade organization, that excludes China but includes the other BRI countries that set up trade argeements with the US and EU? Then globally, tariffs can be passed on China goods for human right violation, for failing to work in the interest of world harmony, for supporting NKorea agressions against the south, for frequently threatening Tiawan with invasion.

Just a idea.....from the REP side of the aisleway......
Nov 2, 2010 6:51 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
steve6610
steve6610steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
ttom500: China just rejected the trilateral talk between China/Japan/US over the questioned Islands. Hillary C had met with her Chinese counterpart wa....and suggest the US host the three in talks.

China refused by saying the Islands were part of mainland China and were not for negotiations. I quote.

"It must be pointed out that the Diaoyu Islands are part of mainland China, and the dispute between China and Japan is one between the two countries." Said Wa.

China is not going to let the Obama administration start to be world's peace maker here.

I suspect that this is the same Chinese position now for NKorea and SKorea, for the middle east peace agreements.

Well.....hmmmm......maybe time for the world to take a really close look at China's currency practices. From the UN to WTO, I wonder how much those Islands can cost the Chinese? Maybe a time for a multi national colaition to set up a global trade organization, that excludes China but includes the other BRI countries that set up trade argeements with the US and EU? Then globally, tariffs can be passed on China goods for human right violation, for failing to work in the interest of world harmony, for supporting NKorea agressions against the south, for frequently threatening Tiawan with invasion.

Just a idea.....from the REP side of the aisleway......



What has been interesting over the past few week is that both Japan & China have had naval vessels in the disputed zone. I think fishing was the reason.

Your last comment is so true that they constantly threaten Taiwan with invasion especially if Taiwan declares itself a republic.

But your post is a great eye opener
Nov 2, 2010 6:53 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I am not thinking your guys are going to get 60 seats... so let,s see what happens.

Yeah... democrats and the president are going to face a hard time if your prediction becomes real. Still... I feel it won,t become that bad for democrats tomorrow as you hope.

2012? Well both Reagan and Clinton had horrible midtterm ellections but they got reelected and Carter had a fabulous midttrum election and he became a one turm president only... you can definately not hoping too much for your guys winning 2012 election TT no matter the out come of tomorrow.


We will not give them a hard time.

Look at it like this. Obama has the keys to the car and is in the driver seat. But the car stopped and a vote was taken. If the election is as the polling indicates, the REP and TEA Party got up from the back seat of the car....and moved to the front seat. Were they now have the road map.

So now with President Obama driving the car, he can put it into gear and with REP/Tea party advise and recommendation to were the car needs to go...and to do...he can take us all there.
Nov 2, 2010 6:59 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Vetri32
Vetri32Vetri32Singapore, Central Singapore Singapore229 Posts
i don't like this Obama dude, aw craps give him and his clingers on another 2 years, see what happens , i did not like george Bush for his first year of his 1st erm but he did deliver what he promised only the war and the fianancial hoop lah made it murky
well who cares the chnese are at the getes and USA is reeling from the attack of the huns whao have surrounde it's every ife, get cracking and drive th invaders out 1 prioritydancing
Nov 2, 2010 7:04 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
pgo58
pgo58pgo58Leitrim, Roscommon Ireland1 Posts
I don't know where you guys get this stuff....you haven't a clue what's going on over here. confused
Nov 2, 2010 7:14 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
steve6610: What has been interesting over the past few week is that both Japan & China have had naval vessels in the disputed zone. I think fishing was the reason.

Your last comment is so true that they constantly threaten Taiwan with invasion especially if Taiwan declares itself a republic.

But your post is a great eye opener


China being the largest non democratic country in the world, is in a unique and difficult situation. The leadership knows that with world contact the Chinese people will want more voice in the government. But that is indirect opposition to the Communist model.

So they have a growing internal problems...as we see with the Tibetian, Hgullie and Google issues.

But China is the monster dragon. With 1.1b people all under a centralized and Communist government, it can do things that democractic countries cannot or corporations cannot do alone. Like keep their wages minimual and their currency value set to desired levels.

1.1b is a vast market for western corporations to tap with goods and services. But if the Chinese gov't regulations are going to be wide extended as they were on Goggle...to cause a lost of freedom to the Chinese people...then democract gov't should step in. To either restrict the goods and service or to impose their own financial and regulation on mainland China.

But pinning China in a diplomatic process.....is allot harder than pinning either NKorea or Iran. Changing a traditional and statused China is no small feat. The only way I see it being done with out bloodshed and violence is a global coalition. That is big enough to take China on in the world markets and in the geo politics affairs.
Nov 2, 2010 7:29 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
steve6610
steve6610steve6610Goolwa, South Australia Australia2,184 Posts
ttom500: China being the largest non democratic country in the world, is in a unique and difficult situation. The leadership knows that with world contact the Chinese people will want more voice in the government. But that is indirect opposition to the Communist model.

So they have a growing internal problems...as we see with the Tibetian, Hgullie and Google issues.

But China is the monster dragon. With 1.1b people all under a centralized and Communist government, it can do things that democractic countries cannot or corporations cannot do alone. Like keep their wages minimual and their currency value set to desired levels.

1.1b is a vast market for western corporations to tap with goods and services. But if the Chinese gov't regulations are going to be wide extended as they were on Goggle...to cause a lost of freedom to the Chinese people...then democract gov't should step in. To either restrict the goods and service or to impose their own financial and regulation on mainland China.

But pinning China in a diplomatic process.....is allot harder than pinning either NKorea or Iran. Changing a traditional and statused China is no small feat. The only way I see it being done with out bloodshed and violence is a global coalition. That is big enough to take China on in the world markets and in the geo politics affairs.



One major problem both of our countries have been facing lately is that China has been heavily investing in Pacific countries. Some officials within Australian Government & Defence Dept have been concerned that it is aimed at putting a wedge between poorer Pacific nations & USA & Australia.

Australia's white paper last year ( defence outline) is heavily directed now towards both China as a regional threat & in particular with the Australian Navy being able to tactically merge & operate with the US Pacific Fleet. They have had constant exercises & Tindal our RAAF base in Queensland is being considered as a joint base as it can handle heavy aircraft.

I do agree though that it has to be a coalition of governments/countries to force them & others to change their ways peacefully
Nov 2, 2010 8:44 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I love this...REP Tricks? My what do you think Obamacare was? There were so many back room deals in that they kept the Capitol janitors up all night cleaning out the back room that were closed to the country.
They did not want any reports or news leaks on it. That is how Obamacare was put together.....

And you have the nerve to say REP tricks?

Pres. Obama went out said REP are the enemy. Know what Boehner said in reply? He said....that for last 200 years when those same men and women stood for the country, stood against the wrongs of the world.....they are not the enemy....they are called patriots.

President Obama cannot even use the word. He and Biden have so distorted the principles of American patriotism that they need teleprompted messages to lead a croud. Men like Bohener, McCain and other REP leaders...seldom use the teleprompter. They speak from the heart.


Republican tricks... Sorry I meant Republican,s Dirty tricks... Dirt comes along when a political movment using foreign money to eaken one,s own country and do not give a damn a bout all those troubled american families!

Of course republicans are the "Enemy" TT... welcome to the real world cheers ... thoguh have Obama never told this and you and ut guys are just spinning as usual roll eyes

What is the definition of the enemy any way? A group doing this much to hurt american progress during a very hard time in America and with holding millions of americans as hostiges and taking money from forein powers to run their anti America tv and radio program and to run their political campain, lying their ase* off regarding the nationality of the american president and his relegious beleif, want to impeach him, a group whose Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin spreads pro "terror" messages in their programs and resulting in some stupid listeners to attack the american autorities, using the money of some major american poluters called Koch brothers to take part with anti democracy militants of America who got explosives and weapons they are ready to use against the government, using a media king called Murdoch to run their stupid show just because Mrdoch presonally is worried a bout have to pay more in taxes... and I do not know what the Hell else your guys are involved in, is not a kind of Enemy of America all of sudden?

Who is your kind of Enemy then? A government trying to provide health care coverage for tens of millions of americnas who have been with out it for years... protecting the guy who had to choose one of his fingers instead of the other one because of lack of health care insurence or the money necessary to have it? A government who have decided 95 procent of americnas shall pay less in taxes but the last five procent who are too fat because of too much money in their hands got to pay more back to the country they claim they love? A government who made sure BP shall not get a way of it,s responsibilites by paying a 75 million max no matter what as the Bushney,s had decided back then but making a 20 billion fund ready to pay the dammages? A government who tries to make a better environmental protection possible in America in close cooporation with other nations? Is this government your kind of enemy TT?

Want to get rid of this fabulous description of Republican party of America as the "Enemy" then do some thing a bout it for gud sake!

countinues...
Nov 2, 2010 8:45 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
part two...

Your guys have no soloutions, no explanations, no regrets, no admit, no problems with what so ever which broguht country to the current situation ... and just want to get there to weaken Obama, making him fail even a failed presidency means a faild America in the at least next three freaking years and that Sucks TT!

Not all americans are like your rich and tax cheater friends Koch borthers and their super wealty look a liked able to use millions just for the heck of it so they can hold breath in the next three years ... America needs soloutions and american families dammaged because of unemployment need help to survive and to have a palce they can live in and medical attention and your sad and mad guys are not going to help these folks what so ever!

Your guys did the exact same or tried to do against president Clinton and they failed as never before, if you remember??!

Why don,t you learn some thing from the mistakes of the past then? A five year old kid learns from mistakes, and the mighty Republican party of Fart in America does not learn Shi* doh

It is a high risk TT... your guys are ready to take this risk and got no car ewhat so ever what happens to american families in trouble and that shows what defines the Republican party of to day. Boehner already have sweard he is not going to work with democrats and the president if he gets to speaker of the House position and that fact sucks and most experts are totaly agree a bout this claim of Boehner is a certain sign that America is going to meet a very hard time in the at least next three years if republicans really getting majorities in both houses or even in the House of representatives alone... Just look at this Boehner man! Gosh! Such a Bozo with no abilities of leadership or any thing useful necessary for american progress...doh

Where do you find these kinds of guys TT? conversing
Nov 2, 2010 9:56 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: China just rejected the trilateral talk between China/Japan/US over the questioned Islands. Hillary C had met with her Chinese counterpart wa....and suggest the US host the three in talks.

China refused by saying the Islands were part of mainland China and were not for negotiations. I quote.

"It must be pointed out that the Diaoyu Islands are part of mainland China, and the dispute between China and Japan is one between the two countries." Said Wa.

China is not going to let the Obama administration start to be world's peace maker here.

I suspect that this is the same Chinese position now for NKorea and SKorea, for the middle east peace agreements.

Well.....hmmmm......maybe time for the world to take a really close look at China's currency practices. From the UN to WTO, I wonder how much those Islands can cost the Chinese? Maybe a time for a multi national colaition to set up a global trade organization, that excludes China but includes the other BRI countries that set up trade argeements with the US and EU? Then globally, tariffs can be passed on China goods for human right violation, for failing to work in the interest of world harmony, for supporting NKorea agressions against the south, for frequently threatening Tiawan with invasion.

Just a idea.....from the REP side of the aisleway......


I am partly agree TT...

It is a bout real time to force China using hard economical tools making them behave more propper... these islands for example belong to Japan any way and it is nasty of China behaving this way just because they got the biggest weapons and more money and because there is oil and gaz over there... they could like split the profet or some thing? China got the technology and so on and Japan could like get a long with splitting the profet and so on for the sake of peace...

China have behaved a lot nasty both regarding human right issues but also because they are not cooporationg with the international community bringing the economical situation under control and just care a bout their own interests.

So I really wish your guys cooporate with the president and with democrats bringing China back to reason... I doubt it actually Republicans cooporationg a bout any thing because republicans just want failiur of this presidency no matter the cost and not a damn thing else but the hope is there since both parties seemed agree regarding China during the campain, beside there is major problem with this republicanised very powerful organisation of crooks mainly called Chamber of Commerce which is deep going in the chiness pockets and then ... well, hard time ahead! conversing
Nov 2, 2010 10:00 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: We will not give them a hard time.

Look at it like this. Obama has the keys to the car and is in the driver seat. But the car stopped and a vote was taken. If the election is as the polling indicates, the REP and TEA Party got up from the back seat of the car....and moved to the front seat. Were they now have the road map.

So now with President Obama driving the car, he can put it into gear and with REP/Tea party advise and recommendation to were the car needs to go...and to do...he can take us all there.


You got a nice dream TT but unfortunatily those on power with in the Republican party are not thinking that way at all and they are just there making sure the next president of America is a Republican and they got a lot money so they can easily mannage the next tow or three years opposite to those tens of millions of americans who cant dunno
Nov 2, 2010 11:38 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: You got a nice dream TT but unfortunatily those on power with in the Republican party are not thinking that way at all and they are just there making sure the next president of America is a Republican and they got a lot money so they can easily mannage the next tow or three years opposite to those tens of millions of americans who cant


I just exercised my right to vote here. Voting turn out seemed light at this polling place. But with early voting it is hard to say. But no lines and the only 756 had gone thru prior to self. And this was poll of 4 prectints. That was a 11AM.

No, I did not wake at 5Am to be first in line when the polls first opened at 8AM. A man must have some civility to his life.....

Then had a bite of lunch .....some of the old Floridane were there....with I Voted stickers on.....talking the election and why gov't is messed up. Common consensus at the restraunt....Dude messed thing up in 2008 by getting Obama elected.grin

By the way...I did vote a DEM......
Nov 2, 2010 12:27 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
pgo58: I don't know where you guys get this stuff....you haven't a clue what's going on over here.


No ido not have much ideas a bout what is going on in Ireland dunno
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