It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America! (717)

Oct 27, 2010 4:22 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: Hey Freddy!

Rather interesting to read this from you mister... I can sense you kind of have experiences with these drugs and since you also wanted to see me in burka I am more sure you need some help... well I could like trying to help you with conversation but I won,t ... sorry! Hopeless patients are not my cup of tea

I care too but since your case is this hopeless I give up...
You still haven't caught on yet!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2010 4:36 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: You don't see what is happening here Dude? Hugo is testing the waters on nationalizing the Two Dow Corning plants. In the past, American Presidents have taken that kind of high way theft from foreign government with a great deal of concern.

If I remember right....Khadiffi nationalized some American businesses before Ronald Reagon planted some bombs in his tent. It sent a certain message. Hands off American business.

President Obama's seem to have a lack of interest to protect American business ownership in foreign countries. That is going to start a tidal wave of American firms and subsidies being nationalized around the globe. Think that will help the economic affairs here in the US? Overseas yes! But here? No....means that the suppliers to many American production lines will switch to being owned by foreign governments. Only bad things are going to happen here. Our unemployment is going to climb because of this.

I am still giving Obama some time to figure this out. But see kissy face between Obama and Chavez coming.


No kisy face between Chavez and Obama I asure you but still since Obama administration is igore to buy less oil from the middle east then them shaking hands is not that unlikely any way and America really epends on Venezuelan oil as you know ... so dunno
Oct 27, 2010 4:43 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Bar Stool Economics
(by David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia)


Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

* The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
* The fifth would pay $1.
* The sixth would pay $3.
* The seventh would pay $7.
* The eighth would pay $12.
* The ninth would pay $18.
* The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. “Since you are all such good customers,” he said, “I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.”
Drinks for the ten now cost just $80

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’

They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay! And so…

* The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
* The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
* The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
* The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
* The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
* The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got $10!”

“Yeah, that’s right,” exclaimed the fifth man. “I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I!”

“That’s true!” shouted the seventh man. “Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!”

“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison. “We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!” The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia

Posted by The Kansan,Dude's Bestest Buddy!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2010 4:46 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: No kisy face between Chavez and Obama I asure you but still since Obama administration is igore to buy less oil from the middle east then them shaking hands is not that unlikely any way and America really epends on Venezuelan oil as you know ... so



You watch Dude. This nationalization of two Corning plants...is just the beginning. And the smart rich Americans that bailout of the American stock market after Obama Presidential win.....saw it coming. They saw the continued economic uncertainity in the country and the foreign political risks that the Obama administration was bringing. And they bailed.

They saw they no longer had a president that would protect their interest in the world. Add that to the economic uncertainty....and you got a slow economic recovery.

But now they are coming back with donations...to REP and Tea party canidates.....via the Chamber of Commerce, 512s and directly....and DEM do not like it.

That is exactly why the Chamber controversy happened earlier.

If Obama does not act on the Chavez take over....what do you want to call it? What ever you want to call it, don't call it a powerful presidency protecting American interest abroad. Because he is not.
Oct 27, 2010 4:51 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
We seeing Dude's Swansong,me thinks!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2010 4:53 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: Still...Chavez is way more decent than all those Saudi friends of your guys combined and their Talibanne regim in Saudi Arabia and still Venezuela is much closer to you buying the damn oil from



HUGO THE FATASS!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2010 4:59 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Ooooooooooooooooh Soooooooooooo Touchy seeing a repube girl being this sad for the sake of those poor lationes....

gosh! It is THe most stupid but still some how "working" republican method to fool lationes now on days... finding a stupid latino called Rubio some thing in Florida who thinks he is the "Good" latino and fooling some lationos stop supporting the Obama administration...

Seeing those repube paid adds asking Latinos not to Vote makes me Barf I may say...

I understand your concern wish4... that,s why you are going to expell all lationes to Mexico so they can apply and try to reenter later on hah? Bunch of Buzo,s and crooks and anti ameircans running this damn repube head club in America and unfortunatily some very decent people like you and TT are their sheeps ... sheeps stand still and not even moving a way even if the butcher killing them one by one ....

Baaaaaaaaaaa!

Resheepublican party of America


You missed my point, Dude. I was referring to Obama calling fellow Americans the enemy...doh
Oct 27, 2010 5:01 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Still...Chavez is way more decent than all those Saudi friends of your guys combined and their Talibanne regim in Saudi Arabia and still Venezuela is much closer to you buying the damn oil from


Didn't Obama just sell the Saudi's some $60 billion in arms????

dunno confused dunno
Oct 27, 2010 5:03 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Yes... here it is; straight from the UK telegraph

"The Obama administration notified Congress on Wednesday that it plans to sell up to $60 billion (£38 billion) in advanced weaponry to Saudi Arabia in one of the largest-ever single US arms sales, a deal intended to counter the rising influence of Iran."
Oct 27, 2010 5:04 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: Still...Chavez is way more decent than all those Saudi friends of your guys combined and their Talibanne regim in Saudi Arabia and still Venezuela is much closer to you buying the damn oil from
yeah,maybe decent for a Swine!
Oct 27, 2010 5:09 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Fallingman: If you say anything often enough you can believe it is true!



Without a doubt it's true. You're seeing the instant replay w/Obama. This recession/soon to be depression will be dragged out 10 years.
Oct 27, 2010 5:09 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Conrad73: yeah,maybe decent for a Swine!


I love the way Dude talks about "those Saudi friends of your guys..." but when Obama puts together one of the largest arms deals ever with the Saudi's it's somehow different.

confused confused
Oct 27, 2010 5:09 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
WhatUwish4: Yes... here it is; straight from the UK telegraph

"The Obama administration notified Congress on Wednesday that it plans to sell up to $60 billion (£38 billion) in advanced weaponry to Saudi Arabia in one of the largest-ever single US arms sales, a deal intended to counter the rising influence of Iran."


His Muslim friends. laugh They're probably planning on giving to the 12' campaign. moping
Oct 27, 2010 5:16 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
WhatUwish4: I love the way Dude talks about "those Saudi friends of your guys..." but when Obama puts together one of the largest arms deals ever with the Saudi's it's somehow different.
When Two People do the same Thing...........laugh

Dude has some pretty lax Standards for some People!laugh
Oct 27, 2010 5:34 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
We just had another absentee ballot case here in Florida. A Volusia country commissioner was arrested with 92 absentee ballots in his possession. Instinct is saying he is a DEM. But not sure of party.

So now we have the New York case of absentee ballot stealing....all DEMs.This Fl case. I bet have many more. DEMs are desperate at this point. But 92 votes? No, he was stealing 92 at a time. Over the course of the early voting he could get 500 or 1000 posted. That will steal a election.

I have a idea....instead of placing them into jail with court conviction. We take away their citizenship. They violated the public trust. If they want to disrespect the America voter with ballot box stuffing or stealing ballots.....they lose their citizenship and the their properties are forfeited. All that after conviction on the charges.

E.G. They find a new country to live in. Which...if you don't know this.
If you are a person without a country, many countries will not accept you. They consider losing one citizenship a disloyality or treason.

Stiff punishement on government official corruption is the only thing that will stop them or give them cause. The present jail sentence is to light to the crime.



Reid is getting hammered on the Tajada scam marriage. She promised to tell Reid after the FED busted the marriage. But failed to do so till last month. Reminding one of the hispanic houee keeper.

If Harry Reid does not know what is going on with his staff....how in the world can we aspect him to know what is going on in the Senate? This is prefect example of Murphy's law. Reid rose to his level incompentency.

That is why the Obama care was so messed up. As leader of the senate Reid's job is to make sure the legislation is solid. The senate is the final approval body. Instead we have Harry Reid there....that does not know his staffer is a scam marriage.

It is why we had some many back room deals. Note all the back room deals on Obamacare were in the Senate? Pelosi did not need the votes. Reid did. But he let them get into back room deals on the bill. As majority whip....another part of the job is keeping the process beyond question to corruption.

But again with so little communication with his staff.....expecting Harry to keep the process clean....was asking way to much.



Sharon Angle sent Joy Behar a bouquet of flowers. After Behar said she was going to Hell and was a B------. Behar said that the flowers were picked by illegal aliens and that they were not voting for Angle. Behar like, Dude.....believe illegal and legal aliens should have the right to vote.

She must have been sick when the had that in civic class...about who is legal to vote in the country.
Oct 27, 2010 5:57 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Germany..., yes Germany. Is placing a law on the books to make forced marriage illegal. Forced marriage are often done in the Islamic world and are sanctioned to be legal by Sharia Law. Often it is a underage bride.

Merkel bit the bullet when she said 'multi culturalism was a failure' and now this legislation is getting promoted. I don't often say this but tip hat to the Germans.

Good going Germany!

Look if men and women from a foreign culture want to live with you. Then they have researched your country enough to now the social norms and what society consider acceptable in regarding child marriages. What Sharia Law was doing was allowing forced marriage and child marraiges to fall into the acceptance of multi culturalism.

German law makers have realized........ at least in this one small area....that you have to have a single coded law for the entire country.
Let Sharia Law was only going to keep the assimilation of the Muslim into the country from happening. The force marriages were between Muslim and Muslim....there was no ethnic diversity being made here.

Then you have the aspect of odious child marriages added on. So Germans are addressing them both!

So good going Germany! Said I it twice now!grin
Oct 27, 2010 6:04 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: You watch Dude. This nationalization of two Corning plants...is just the beginning. And the smart rich Americans that bailout of the American stock market after Obama Presidential win.....saw it coming. They saw the continued economic uncertainity in the country and the foreign political risks that the Obama administration was bringing. And they bailed.

They saw they no longer had a president that would protect their interest in the world. Add that to the economic uncertainty....and you got a slow economic recovery.

But now they are coming back with donations...to REP and Tea party canidates.....via the Chamber of Commerce, 512s and directly....and DEM do not like it.

That is exactly why the Chamber controversy happened earlier.

If Obama does not act on the Chavez take over....what do you want to call it? What ever you want to call it, don't call it a powerful presidency protecting American interest abroad. Because he is not.
what should Obama do TT? Going war with Venezuela like back then with Vietnam because of what exaclty? what is more dangerous for America? Oilmoney of saudies feeding Taliban and Alqueda and Hizbollah and Hamas or a socialist guy in Venezuela nationalising companies over there? What do you expect exactly? confused
Oct 27, 2010 6:06 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: You missed my point, Dude. I was referring to Obama calling fellow Americans the enemy...
Nope... you are misunderstanding or mistraslating Obama,s words as usual Wish4... good to see you... sorry I forgot to write wine
Oct 27, 2010 6:10 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Didn't Obama just sell the Saudi's some $60 billion in arms????
and so what? They are not even capable of using most of those weapons any way laugh
Oct 27, 2010 6:12 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
djpierre: not true...suadi arabia owns america
Welcome to this thread DJ cheers
Oct 27, 2010 6:16 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: We just had another absentee ballot case here in Florida. A Volusia country commissioner was arrested with 92 absentee ballots in his possession. Instinct is saying he is a DEM. But not sure of party.

So now we have the New York case of absentee ballot stealing....all DEMs.This Fl case. I bet have many more. DEMs are desperate at this point. But 92 votes? No, he was stealing 92 at a time. Over the course of the early voting he could get 500 or 1000 posted. That will steal a election.

I have a idea....instead of placing them into jail with court conviction. We take away their citizenship. They violated the public trust. If they want to disrespect the America voter with ballot box stuffing or stealing ballots.....they lose their citizenship and the their properties are forfeited. All that after conviction on the charges.

E.G. They find a new country to live in. Which...if you don't know this.
If you are a person without a country, many countries will not accept you. They consider losing one citizenship a disloyality or treason.

Stiff punishement on government official corruption is the only thing that will stop them or give them cause. The present jail sentence is to light to the crime.



Reid is getting hammered on the Tajada scam marriage. She promised to tell Reid after the FED busted the marriage. But failed to do so till last month. Reminding one of the hispanic houee keeper.

If Harry Reid does not know what is going on with his staff....how in the world can we aspect him to know what is going on in the Senate? This is prefect example of Murphy's law. Reid rose to his level incompentency.

That is why the Obama care was so messed up. As leader of the senate Reid's job is to make sure the legislation is solid. The senate is the final approval body. Instead we have Harry Reid there....that does not know his staffer is a scam marriage.

It is why we had some many back room deals. Note all the back room deals on Obamacare were in the Senate? Pelosi did not need the votes. Reid did. But he let them get into back room deals on the bill. As majority whip....another part of the job is keeping the process beyond question to corruption.

But again with so little communication with his staff.....expecting Harry to keep the process clean....was asking way to much.



Sharon Angle sent Joy Behar a bouquet of flowers. After Behar said she was going to Hell and was a B------. Behar said that the flowers were picked by illegal aliens and that they were not voting for Angle. Behar like, Dude.....believe illegal and legal aliens should have the right to vote.

She must have been sick when the had that in civic class...about who is legal to vote in the country.




tongue
Oct 27, 2010 6:37 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: what should Obama do TT? Going war with Venezuela like back then with Vietnam because of what exaclty? what is more dangerous for America? Oilmoney of saudies feeding Taliban and Alqueda and Hizbollah and Hamas or a socialist guy in Venezuela nationalising companies over there? What do you expect exactly?


No, war is not the answer here. But you increase your counter drug programs on Chavez and his country. You find his country owned business and make sure they have paid their corp taxes to the dime. You back Columbia in the Venzulean/Columbian situation. You do the things that Dow Corning cannot. Dow can sue him and will.

But Obama as President has abilities to press Chavez in other ways. Then when Chavez says ouch.....you send a backdoor note....and says this ends with the Dow Corning nationalization ends.

It is not about this party being worse or better than this party. It is not a popularity contest. Each situation is unique and each needs a unique solution.

Liberal always do the popularity game. This guy is OK because they are better than this guy. Chavez is stealing from American investors in Corning that own the firm. Theft is immoral activity. So you find a political pressure point on Mr. Chavez, and you push it. Geo political kung fu, Dude.grin
Oct 27, 2010 8:39 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Nope... you are misunderstanding or mistraslating Obama,s words as usual Wish4... good to see you... sorry I forgot to write


He said exactly what he meant. The Messiah does not make mistakes. professor
Oct 27, 2010 8:47 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
To the person who e-mailed me earlier tonight...Please send me your personal e-mail addy. I need to ask you something about Naples.wine
Oct 27, 2010 9:36 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
mbcasey: To the person who e-mailed me earlier tonight...Please send me your personal e-mail addy. I need to ask you something about Naples.


It's in Italy. grin
Oct 28, 2010 1:53 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: what should Obama do TT? Going war with Venezuela like back then with Vietnam because of what exaclty? what is more dangerous for America? Oilmoney of saudies feeding Taliban and Alqueda and Hizbollah and Hamas or a socialist guy in Venezuela nationalising companies over there? What do you expect exactly?
Actually it is Iran paying Taliban Afghan-Fighters Bloodmoney!barf
Oct 28, 2010 1:55 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: and so what? They are not even capable of using most of those weapons any way
But you are,even though you are even afraid of a Waterpistol!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 28, 2010 8:04 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
With only 5 days to go till the Mid Term.....President Obama went on the Jon Stewart show. With several of his Presidential advisors thinking..."What in the world is he doing?"

The President courageously took the stage in a verbal confrontation
with Stewart. Stewart now is considered the most influencial man in America....while the President's influence rating has fallen from number 3 to 22nd.

The President glibly defended his positions, while Stewart angled for inside the belt way attack of humor and scarism. The President maintained that the Stimulus had to be done (to save the to big to fail companies)and when (if you ever will read it) Obamacare is really good for the country. Funny how 'the to big to fail companies' is now dropped from the teleprompter bite.

Stewart was not buying the Presidential package. Continued to prob with cutting comments into the deficit issue, and why DEM canidates are looking very toasted in the mid term polls.

The President basically said you have to spend some money to make some money. The logic was seen in the Hollywood croud immediately, as they applauded his ability to sign checks. Stewart countered by saying it was taxpayer money that the checks were drafted on. The Hollywood croud quieted and several began to look into their wallets to see if they still had any.

Turning to the diplomatic front. The President said signing of the START agreement was a big deal. If now he can get the Senate with number 41 sitting it to ratify it, before number 42 thru 48 or 51 is sitting it, he would be doing good. Stewart acknowledged the diplomatic success here, but added....'did not the Russian try to place a limit to the number of NATO forces in eastern European countries?' Meaning that it would be easier for a Russian invasion.

Stewart pressed home on China currency issue. Saying the Chinese have made your time in office difficult do you think that they are part of the REP party? Noting that when they bought all the T-Bill, it was foreign money coming into the country. The President blocked the Stewart inferrence...and said 'the REP are a truely a party of the NO, he just wish he their voters on his side right now.'

Bringing the two back to mid terms. Were Steward said....'You are going to get clobbered on the 2nd'. The President held his ground for a moment, and then agreed that the polling did not look good.

And I did not even see the show......grin
Oct 28, 2010 8:54 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Conrad73: But you are,even though you are even afraid of a Waterpistol!
thumbs up laugh

But water pistols in Denmark are subject to that damn VAT tax.
He can't afford to buy one. moping
Oct 28, 2010 10:42 AM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: and so what? They are not even capable of using most of those weapons any way



We will get them up to speed with a little instruction. You know like 15,000 military trainers in Saudi Arabia.laugh
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