It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America! (717)

Oct 31, 2010 2:02 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Of course it can be improved TT and it will but hopefully not with the ideas of the Republican party. You republicans are not that social oriented TT and can not create any thing which is good for all or a great majority of americans... that is a fact you can not deny

Your kind of president even Vetoed health care benefits of american kids! How Mean is that?

Worried a bout poor inoncent tiney McDonald becasue they got to provide health care for their workers... so touchy


Dude, this new age determinant health care wil knock your sox off. And it pro business and capiolism.

Instead of buying that big full premiun for employee like I showed in the McDonald example.....the small business only buys a career waiver. The employee only pay a base coverage. No big government sticking into the health decision. And health insurance companies can still make a good return. What is wrong with any of that?

I know HHS just does not employee 145,000, 45 new FED government agencies are not made. But none of those get the medicals services to the patient. They are a government excess not needed.

A neat and tight business model for health care.

Hey, REP were bringing new idea to the table.....maybe DEMs were not listening? Or had gotten so use to thinking that everything was going to come from the Oval Office....they forgot to consider alternatives.

So assume we show Obama a better health care plan than Obama care....think that he will veto it? Because I bet he does. Why? It does not have his name on it. Is the main reason. That ego thingee that they have in Washington, mainly. But there a is going to be allot of pressure among the DEMs and the REP to have this. This one can cost him the Presidency in 2012 if he plays it wrong.

And give Rubio a shot for a early run at it 2012. Ain't that nice to think about?
Oct 31, 2010 2:46 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Bushney,s styled Health care plan???

You know TT... one of the main problems a bout your guys and their kind of suggestion is that you will give the right to health insurence companies denying coverage of those with pre conditions and removing health car ebenefits when americans loosing their jobs... and please do not deny this because I know what I am talking a bout.

Insurence companies are out raged because they can not deny no more and their explanation is: the thing costs money and then they make less profet and that is all which is enough for the Republican party being on the insurence companies side and because repube heads care a bout their shares in health industry keeps gaining value! Health of human beings is deifnately not Profet alone TT and these companies can easliy making money but some how less because precondition does not give them a right to send americans to a certain Death !

Your program is the same kind of program which have always been there TT... you will not obligate businesses to give a propper health care program to their employers and you want it being out of free will and that did not work and killed and still kills around 18,000 human biengs in your country a year! More than the number of killed americans in both wars and september elleven combined for gud sake each and every year!

Your guys do not have a better plan, they have never had a better plan and they will never get a better plan regarding Health care of America TT!

Your kind of ideology is not giving much to unemployed and poor and mentally ill and immigrants and colored and single parents and so on TT and your guys are talking a lot now on days but I have studied your health care suggestions and it is not any thing other than the same kind of program you always had and mostly a bout who is good enough receiving a propper health care and who is not... a bout discrimination and a bout unfairness made to Republican kind of legislations and explained a way by BS which have not a thing to do with Health care any way dunno

Look at you... when ever you feel like it is a bout time you try to talk fabulously a bout GWB even, and trying your best making him look like the THE best ting after sliced bread for gud sake!

Now your guys are all of a sudden "THE health care provider of America"... I know your shi* selling tickets now on days and America have gone a little silly... but me? I like politics and I know a bout differnet ideologies and I am definately not a plain farmer from Alabama with no interest in politics and just interested in how to make more money paying the next mortage and then pretty easy to fool... you see? conversing
Oct 31, 2010 3:16 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Bushney,s styled Health care plan???

You know TT..

Your guys do not have a better plan, they have never had a better plan and they will never get a better plan regarding Health care of America TT!

Your kind of ideology is not giving much to unemployed and poor and mentally ill and immigrants and colored and single parents and so on TT and your guys are talking a lot now on days but I have studied your health care suggestions and it is not any thing other than the same kind of program you always had and mostly a bout who is good enough receiving a propper health care and who is not... a bout discrimination and a bout unfairness made to Republican kind of legislations and explained a way by BS which have not a thing to do with Health care any way

Look at you... when ever you feel like it is a bout time you try to talk fabulously a bout GWB even, and trying your best making him look like the THE best ting after sliced bread for gud sake!

Now your guys are all of a sudden "THE health care provider of America"... I know your shi* selling tickets now on days and America have gone a little silly... but me? I like politics and I know a bout differnet ideologies and I am definately not a plain farmer from Alabama with no interest in politics and just interested in how to make more money paying the next mortage and then pretty easy to fool... you see?


See that is what courts are for. See a insurance policy is a contract.
If a carier breaches the contract by not paying a claim. The insured has every right to sue them.

What Obamacare did.....was take court out of the mix. It forces the carrier pay all claims....ligit and illigit. So what the carrier are doing is raising rates...to cover the illigit claims. In our countries with million of illegals and many with dishonest motive....illegal claims are a major problem.

They just did some medicare illegal groups. In Miami allone they arrested 76 and is near a $100m that they had taken from Medicare.
Insurance companies get hit with false claims as well. But did Obama care do anything about tort reform? No.

The insurance carier are not dumb, they know the rate and amount of bad and illegal claims they have coming in. They took that amount and added it to their premiums....it is why a McDonald employee would get a $5K increase premium that business has to pay for.

You have to combine the two. Tort reform and a cheaper health care system without big gov't. Then got a winner.

But it is a good point.

But it is just another reason to repeal Obamacare.....because it take the contract away from the premium holder and the insurance company were litigation can be done. And places the contract between the person needing health care and the Federal Gov't.

The Fed gov't has much deeper pockets to fight a claim than the Insurance companies do. So were is the consumer better served? Seem to me with having a contract between the insurance company and the premium holder. Assuming that they get to the court for timely decision on claim payment.

My Rubio proposal is only on the health care side of this. Tort reform is is one that has to be drafted by attroneys. Not someone that is the social science like myself.

Like I said earlier...thanks for break the ice for us on Health care. we have known for a long time what ever party took this first to the American people was going to get hammered. REP avoided for along time.
Obama picked it up and found out, last summer.

Now we pick it with a better plan....and the American people are saying thank for saving us money and giving us a better and workable plan. Only in America can we make something better and improved.

As they say....new and improved, new and improved.....
Oct 31, 2010 3:28 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: See that is what courts are for. See a insurance policy is a contract.
If a carier breaches the contract by not paying a claim. The insured has every right to sue them.

What Obamacare did.....was take court out of the mix. It forces the carrier pay all claims....ligit and illigit. So what the carrier are doing is raising rates...to cover the illigit claims. In our countries with million of illegals and many with dishonest motive....illegal claims are a major problem.

They just did some medicare illegal groups. In Miami allone they arrested 76 and is near a $100m that they had taken from Medicare.
Insurance companies get hit with false claims as well. But did Obama care do anything about tort reform? No.

The insurance carier are not dumb, they know the rate and amount of bad and illegal claims they have coming in. They took that amount and added it to their premiums....it is why a McDonald employee would get a $5K increase premium that business has to pay for.

You have to combine the two. Tort reform and a cheaper health care system without big gov't. Then got a winner.

But it is a good point.

But it is just another reason to repeal Obamacare.....because it take the contract away from the premium holder and the insurance company were litigation can be done. And places the contract between the person needing health care and the Federal Gov't.

The Fed gov't has much deeper pockets to fight a claim than the Insurance companies do. So were is the consumer better served? Seem to me with having a contract between the insurance company and the premium holder. Assuming that they get to the court for timely decision on claim payment.

My Rubio proposal is only on the health care side of this. Tort reform is is one that has to be drafted by attroneys. Not someone that is the social science like myself.

Like I said earlier...thanks for break the ice for us on Health care. we have known for a long time what ever party took this first to the American people was going to get hammered. REP avoided for along time.
Obama picked it up and found out, last summer.

Now we pick it with a better plan....and the American people are saying thank for saving us money and giving us a better and workable plan. Only in America can we make something better and improved.

As they say....new and improved, new and improved.....


Obama did some thing great for americna health care several preisdents have been trying for a hundred years or some thing but with out success and what Obama have done is a new and improved deal better than any thing Ever suggested but ok TT... if America really want to get fooled by your guys then it will happen and America will learn later on.

I just know what Universal health care plan is and how it is possible and how good it is for a country or actually for a whole continent over here... America wants to keep staying as one of the one and only major western powers with an unfair health care plan based on the profet of the fattest, killing tousands each year because people can,t afford it ... what can I do? An american problem dunno
Oct 31, 2010 3:47 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Iran just pulled out of the Nuc talks. See the geo politcal game that is being played here?

Watch. Obama brings Abbas and Netanhyu together for peace talks. Iran does not like that. So Pres. A goes to Lebanon for a rally on the border and Hamas does a 100,000 person street rally against the US and Isreal.

In the mean time....both Europe and the US begin to get terrorist attacks. To push them both from supporting the peace talks of Abbas and Netenhyu. Iran that only a week ago said it would have nuc talsk with the P5+1, now walks away.

Basically saying....if they work to sign a peace treaty in middle east, we will not talk and will not end the nuclear processing. But also proving again that Islamic terrorism is a proxie to Iran.

It is all to pressure Obama. And to end the Abbas/Netanhyu talks.

I don't how many time peoples need to see the Iran/Islamic terrorism cycle cycle here....because it has been done several times in the last 6-7 years.
Oct 31, 2010 3:50 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Obama did some thing great for americna health care several preisdents have been trying for a hundred years or some thing but with out success and what Obama have done is a new and improved deal better than any thing Ever suggested but ok TT... if America really want to get fooled by your guys then it will happen and America will learn later on.

I just know what Universal health care plan is and how it is possible and how good it is for a country or actually for a whole continent over here... America wants to keep staying as one of the one and only major western powers with an unfair health care plan based on the profet of the fattest, killing tousands each year because people can,t afford it ... what can I do? An american problem


And it's totally FREE FREE FREE NO ONE PAYS FOR IT! YES, FREE yay
Oct 31, 2010 3:50 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Obama did some thing great for americna health care several preisdents have been trying for a hundred years or some thing but with out success and what Obama have done is a new and improved deal better than any thing Ever suggested but ok TT... if America really want to get fooled by your guys then it will happen and America will learn later on.

I just know what Universal health care plan is and how it is possible and how good it is for a country or actually for a whole continent over here... America wants to keep staying as one of the one and only major western powers with an unfair health care plan based on the profet of the fattest, killing tousands each year because people can,t afford it ... what can I do? An american problem


Now a REP written health care bill is unfair? One that includes coverge of those special needs kids? That Obamacare does not! One that is cheaper and easier to manage? One that does not put government into the health care decisions?

Come on Dude.....new and improved, new and improved.....
Oct 31, 2010 4:54 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Iran just pulled out of the Nuc talks. See the geo politcal game that is being played here?

Watch. Obama brings Abbas and Netanhyu together for peace talks. Iran does not like that. So Pres. A goes to Lebanon for a rally on the border and Hamas does a 100,000 person street rally against the US and Isreal.

In the mean time....both Europe and the US begin to get terrorist attacks. To push them both from supporting the peace talks of Abbas and Netenhyu. Iran that only a week ago said it would have nuc talsk with the P5+1, now walks away.

Basically saying....if they work to sign a peace treaty in middle east, we will not talk and will not end the nuclear processing. But also proving again that Islamic terrorism is a proxie to Iran.

It is all to pressure Obama. And to end the Abbas/Netanhyu talks.

I don't how many time peoples need to see the Iran/Islamic terrorism cycle cycle here....because it has been done several times in the last 6-7 years.


For the frist time in a very long time TT... I am asoloutely agree with your post and I really wish Iran problem being taken care dof effectivly and smoothly once and for all!

Iran does definately not want peace between Israel and palestinians and this dangerous fact is one of the main reasons people of Israel and paelstinians as well keep suffering because of the ugly face of this conflict.

Iranian situation is one of THE main problems in this world and it better being taken cared off ASAP!

And No... Iran does not want talks or some thing... they are just playing Chess and abusing the rules and regulations of the democratic society and keeping us preoccupied till they got the damn bomb... No doubt they are lying big time very mad
Oct 31, 2010 5:00 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Oct 31, 2010 5:03 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
u2Kitty: WOW Thats so good for you (This is sarcastic)

Here in Denmark we pay for healthcare through our taxes - and we do it with pleasure! Everyone can get treated in hospital without getting ruined here. Everyone

Do you know that in some countries people are lying dying in the streets? Not a nice thought really.


For those people, it doesn't matter how free the healthcare is? I may be wrong?


They would need free mortuary care? Maybe that's next on Obama's list? dunno
Oct 31, 2010 5:05 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
u2Kitty: WOW Thats so good for you (This is sarcastic)

Here in Denmark we pay for healthcare through our taxes - and we do it with pleasure! Everyone can get treated in hospital without getting ruined here. Everyone

Do you know that in some countries people are lying dying in the streets? Not a nice thought really.



footnote:

I hope everyone on the world wide stage doesn't expect Obamacare to help them?yawn
Oct 31, 2010 5:06 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
u2Kitty: It means how important it is for ALL to be able to have access to healthcare!!



Unless everyone is put on a life support, I think they may die anyway? Don't know many that live forever? dunno
Oct 31, 2010 5:11 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Keep talking Freddy...


I have to Dude...someone has to speak the TRUTH!
Oct 31, 2010 5:22 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: Sure Freddy! That is all I want! Truth, the whole truth and nothing but truth regarding the most dangerous political movment in US hisotry and that is the Republican party of America!

I do not like what your guys are doing and have done a gainst America and the real TRUTH regarding how republicans thinking "unofficially" makes us all knowing you guys more!

Feel free... talk from the bottom of ur heart please
Dude,you have a Republifixation!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 31, 2010 5:24 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude: I am not here to get hooked up with some body Freddy... I am just here to support Obama and to do what ever I can to help wonderful America agaisnt a certain come back of the forces of darkness ... but ty for trying
Don't the Title read:"It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!"?
Oct 31, 2010 5:34 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
u2Kitty
u2Kittyu2KittyClose to the ocean, South Denmark Denmark23 Threads 974 Posts
Evening Conrad wave
Oct 31, 2010 5:37 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
u2Kitty: It means how important it is for ALL to be able to have access to healthcare!!


You mean like the 4.5 m special needs kids that Obama care did not cover?
Oct 31, 2010 5:42 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I am not here to get hooked up with some body Freddy... I am just here to support Obama and to do what ever I can to help wonderful America agaisnt a certain come back of the forces of darkness ... but ty for trying


I think she's nice looking...but if you want me to find you someone else, I will. I thought maybe you could ride your bike and go see her. dunno
Oct 31, 2010 5:44 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
u2Kitty: Evening Conrad
Good Evening!
See you lending a helping hand to Dude!
He's kind of painting himself into a Corner!laugh grin
Oct 31, 2010 5:47 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Sure Freddy! That is all I want! Truth, the whole truth and nothing but truth regarding the most dangerous political movment in US hisotry and that is the Republican party of America!

I do not like what your guys are doing and have done a gainst America and the real TRUTH regarding how republicans thinking "unofficially" makes us all knowing you guys more!

Feel free... talk from the bottom of ur heart please


Truth? Like when it is a liberal attack....a Greyson shot or Huffington post article.....it has got to be the truth. But when a REP says....were did the money go? It is political motivated and deceptive investigation into the privacy of the DEM governace.
Oct 31, 2010 5:58 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: Don't the Title read:"It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!"?
You are getting quick Grumpy! What,s up? Useful anti direha medication finally? grin
Oct 31, 2010 6:12 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: No just the 12m illegal aliens that are in the country.
And most of those 12 million human beings living in America are actually working for repube heads and on their farms and factories and taking care of their kids and cooking for them and washing their kids asse* and working in places not many americans ever will work at unless as bosses ! And a one of a kind really REALLY republican guy like your self is so damn worried if poor human beings who live in America receiving a propper health care if ill and you even calling ur self a good christian dont you ?confused

What kind christianity are you like found of TT? scold
Oct 31, 2010 6:24 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Truth? Like when it is a liberal attack....a Greyson shot or Huffington post article.....it has got to be the truth. But when a REP says....were did the money go? It is political motivated and deceptive investigation into the privacy of the DEM governace.
Exactly TT!

You are finally getting better seeing the truth thumbs up grin
Oct 31, 2010 6:28 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Freddy Freddy ...

Explain how a country can be runned then if no taxes? America is a huge country and every thing costs and where the damn money to run the country shall come from then?

Taxation is a way to be a part of a country and paying back some of your income to joy prosperity and security and so on...

People can not like just being on their own and every thing goes fine... it is absoloutely impossible and jungle law will be upon you and no matter how big ur guns are some body else will bring a bigger gun you see?

Free, totaly free kind of life is utopia and not possible to accomplish and you live in a country then you have obligations and have to obey the law and regulations must stop people abusing each other.

Your beleif is kind of romantic of course but can it get done? how can bills of the country beign paid then? Who is going to guarantee that America does not go anarchy and people eating each other like crazy when no government? you are the perfect guy let,s say that but what a bout others? around 400 million people living totaly free and no government and no taxes and no regulations ... Get real Freddy! If you were a 14 years old ok but you are a grown up man and this utopia of urs is kind of childish! You are not pro republicans? I do not beleive you mister...


No where did I say NO taxes.devil
Oct 31, 2010 6:34 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: And most of those 12 million human beings living in America are actually working for repube heads and on their farms and factories and taking care of their kids and cooking for them and washing their kids asse* and working in places not many americans ever will work at unless as bosses ! And a one of a kind really REALLY republican guy like your self is so damn worried if poor human beings who live in America receiving a propper health care if ill and you even calling ur self a good christian dont you ?

What kind christianity are you like found of TT?


Do you understand the word..... illegal? About 165,000 of those 12m illegal aliens belong to hispanic gangs. That do drive by and sell drugs to our kids. When the 12m give up those 165,000 that are killing and addicting Americans, then we can talk about health care.

Till then they are aiding and abetting. No one talks about it. But when they sell a car to a gang...for a drive by....they aided and abetted a crime. When they sell a gun to a gang....they aided and abetted. When they help smuggle in the drugs they aided and abetted.

But that other lawful Americans get caught in the cross fire, get kidnapped, have their kids addicted....that does not matter to you.
Just so they get free health care....so they flock here in mass numbers
to support DEMs in voting.

Were is your morality?
Oct 31, 2010 6:54 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Do you understand the word..... illegal? About 165,000 of those 12m illegal aliens belong to hispanic gangs. That do drive by and sell drugs to our kids. When the 12m give up those 165,000 that are killing and addicting Americans, then we can talk about health care.

Till then they are aiding and abetting. No one talks about it. But when they sell a car to a gang...for a drive by....they aided and abetted a crime. When they sell a gun to a gang....they aided and abetted. When they help smuggle in the drugs they aided and abetted.

But that other lawful Americans get caught in the cross fire, get kidnapped, have their kids addicted....that does not matter to you.
Just so they get free health care....so they flock here in mass numbers
to support DEMs in voting.

Were is your morality?


The numbers of crime commited by illegals are not as high as you want to claim and most of them living hidden lives and never are in touch wiht the autorities any way and I am pretty sure you know this or have chosed not to think a bout and just going along with what ever Hannity and O,Reily tells you to repeat!

There have been more effective anti illegal immigrant effors then after Obama became president, and hundreds of tousands of illegals have been arrested and expelled so far... and during your Geroge *W Bush the numbers looked like Shi* even after 9/11 where the need for security rised major time... I have asked you before and you have answered this before but still this fact is some thing you Really got to think a bout TT tongue

My morality is right here and fine TT... Where is ur christianity since you are the follower of a group which is fighting major time and with teeth and claws against human beings becoming able to receive a propper health care even poor and here by I am not talking a bout illegals at all TT... a bout AMERICANS !

Talking money money money... Was Jesus Christ a Capitalist or what? He did not had much and what ever he had he shared... Glenn Beck of urs is making millions becuase stupid people looking at him as a real christian some thing and your Palin wears 150 K suits to hide her ugly being and Limbaugh have million doller villas in America and else where where he travels to enjot their Universal health care and the whole bunch of repube head senators are freaking millioners or billioners for gud sake and having their sad asse* secured because they never have to be worry a bout who is going to pay their kids hospitalisation bills and using the FEDERAL health care program even they denying it!

So absoloutely out raged to be a part of a group which is so unfamilier with human rights and calling one self a real christian or some body who cares a bout America!doh

Be honest with your self... be a Republican or a Christian! Jesus would surely not even getting a Visa to America and George W Bush bunch would knock him down I bet! He would be called a Damn Socilaist and anti american blah blah blah some thing!

Look at ur guys and listen to them for gud sake! Christians? doh
Oct 31, 2010 7:26 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: The numbers of crime commited by illegals are not as high as you want to claim and most of them living hidden lives and never are in touch wiht the autorities any way and I am pretty sure you know this or have chosed not to think a bout and just going along with what ever Hannity and O,Reily tells you to repeat!

There have been more effective anti illegal immigrant effors then after Obama became president, and hundreds of tousands of illegals have been arrested and expelled so far... and during your Geroge *W Bush the numbers looked like Shi* even after 9/11 where the need for security rised major time... I have asked you before and you have answered this before but still this fact is some thing you Really got to think a bout TT

My morality is right here and fine TT... Where is ur christianity since you are the follower of a group which is fighting major time and with teeth and claws against human beings becoming able to receive a propper health care even poor and here by I am not talking a bout illegals at all TT... a bout AMERICANS !

Talking money money money... Was Jesus Christ a Capitalist or what? He did not had much and what ever he had he shared... Glenn Beck of urs is making millions becuase stupid people looking at him as a real christian some thing and your Palin wears 150 K suits to hide her ugly being and Limbaugh have million doller villas in America and else where where he travels to enjot their Universal health care and the whole bunch of repube head senators are freaking millioners or billioners for gud sake and having their sad asse* secured because they never have to be worry a bout who is going to pay their kids hospitalisation bills and using the FEDERAL health care program even they denying it!

So absoloutely out raged to be a part of a group which is so unfamilier with human rights and calling one self a real christian or some body who cares a bout America!

Be honest with your self... be a Republican or a Christian! Jesus would surely not even getting a Visa to America and George W Bush bunch would knock him down I bet! He would be called a Damn Socilaist and anti american blah blah blah some thing!

Look at ur guys and listen to them for gud sake! Christians?


Dude....24,000 murders south of the border have occured in the last couple of years. Because drug cartel and hispanic gangs. That is not infrequent or random murders. That is a war.

The 165,000 hispanic gang members here are part of that war. They are end drug dealers and the first in the money men chain. The 12m illegal alien support them by many ways.....alibis, documents, guns, vehicles, muling the drugs in, on an on.

Jesus fought for life of the little ones (children). And God's law is thou shall not kill. These guys are killing both little ones, children and adults and tearing apart American families. I got not problem here with my position. Nor in using force against them if I have to.

Now ...you say....give illegal alien health care it is the Christian thing to do. They do in MASS. 150,000 illegal aliens get ....usually by bad documents...the MASS State Health care. The state loses $32m a year to their false claims for medical care givin in Emergency rooms.

Multiply that by 80.....to come to the 12m illegal aliens that will have access to Obamacare.....it comes to $2.56b in fraudlent annual claims for illegal aliens in the country.

How responsible and fair is that to the other 309m legal Americans, that will have $2.56b less in health care annually? That will wait in emergency room longer for treatment? That pay for the 12m illegal alien health care in the form of taxes?
Oct 31, 2010 8:04 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Drug wars of Mexico happening in Mexico and not in the USA TT!

As writtne before TT... there is a major problem regarding drugs in America and too many americans old or young using those drugs and there is some thing definately wrong with morality of too many americans taking these when ever they party or on the daily basis! Some body got to work on the problem major time because as long as there are customers, there will be drug related crime as well!

Who talked a bout illegal immigrants helath care thing TT? You and your guys are fighting agaisnt universal health care plan for AMERICANS! How big letters shall I use so you can see this TT?confused

Maybe you see the poor americans as "illegal" residents as well because if some body is poor and unemployed then he or she is not "american" enough or some thing?

If according to human rigths illegal residents of America receiving health care as well then it is good for America and shows the true positive spirit of America which is definately NOT a republican thing any way ... so dont worry a bout this... only "Communists" helping poor human beings who happen to live in America and not "God feared" repube heads grin

I am talking a bout real americans you see?

Emergency rooms are the absoloute favorite of repube heads as well who not willing to get a propper health care coverage for their employees or for them selves even so they can Leech the society when ever seriosuly ill and then fleeing the payment and after that voting republican and bash on the same emergency system and calling it the destruction of american economy because people fleeing the payment ... you know REAL kind of Republicanised analysation BS! tongue

Forget the 12 million thingy TT... there are tens of millions of americans with no health care coverage what so EVER and their children are exactly as good as your kids and tousands of good americans are DEAD because your kind of ideology have enabled the greedy health care industry denying care for those with pre condition and the same industry allowing them selves denying folks with serious and expensive hospital bills countinuation of their coverage all of sudden ... and you talk a bout they can Sue these guys? come on! Suing who? How many ever win agaisn the huge money tank of the health care industry and their right winged lawyers any way?

Your guys should take their asse* to Canada or to Europe and learning some thing a bout how universal health care plan is working there and how big amounts of money a whole country saves because of the same for gud sake!

Most republicans living in a cheese box for a whole life and then having THE most numbers of ideas a bout stuff they do not have any ideas a bout!

Your Christian kind of beleif is definately challenged major time TT... Because your kind of president Bush Vetoed health care coverege for Children and because you and ur guys are fighting against human rights of tens of millions of ur fellow country men and because most of ur guys are so Mean that they call the poor and the unemployed spoiled ,who does no have a right to have a life even he or she lives in a very rich country!

All those tens of tousands of americans who have lost their lives because of lack of economical ability to have a helth care coverage and because of too many years of right winged anti humanity Agenda in America are Dead because of your Guys and their never ending stupid Selfishness and lack of Care TT!

Of course terrorists like your guys more than they like democrats TT... they like your guys more because you kill more americans, both becaue of ur stupid wars but also domesticly tongue

Can,t even imagine a true hard skinned repube head who is fighting with all means against these health care reforms even being able to look at him or her self in the miror and really beleives God endorsing this shameful Repiblican agenda of America!uh oh
Oct 31, 2010 8:10 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Here Freddy:"Most Americans want to be free to live their lives w/o government intrusion;(minimal) taxes, laws, etc."


Slight correction : Minimal

Obviously some taxes are required to support the Democrat constituency. laugh
Oct 31, 2010 9:18 PM CST It is not a bout Obama! This time it is about America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
They did not even get the right women in Yemen. Someone used her documents to forge the shipping documents. So Yemen has let her go. So they have no leads in Yemen. Blind and a dumb, but lucky in love as they say.

Brennan....."said this is was a race against time"...to get the two bombs.He won two race.....how about the 98 other race? They can trigger them off anytime, Mr. Brennan. They are still sitting out there someplace.

That is not the kind of questions that they like to ask on Meet the Press. They don't want to scare the American people away from flying on the Holidays.

But someone has to ask the hard questions, that none like to consider.
If asked in President Obama presence would likely be your last day in Washington....you are headed to Greenland on the next flight out.
That is what happens with you get 'yes men' around you.

They don't add things up and avoid the obvious bad news as much as a possible.

Well our counter terrorism and homeland security has been pretty well penetrated.....the only thing that has not happened yet is the explosion. Make that explosions.

Our President is at a campaign rally....and prepping for his 2012 run.
When alAwaliki or bin Laden starts to set them off.....I bet his trip ends. Then it will get serious. But since cell phone signals go at the speed of sound...I don't think Mr. Brennan has much chance to catch them.

They were not playing the last couple of years, Mr. President. But
you were. They took their time, studied our logistical weakness and exploited it. That game of golf on a Sunday..or that trip to beach.....or that diner party .....just going to Cooppenhagen to pick up a Noble. Each little diversion from your main role as POTUS put you and the country into this position.

You had to stay focused and concentrated on the threat. But you were appeasing them. And well for some that charm worked. But for bin Laden and alAwaliki? No, that Presidential charm is not going to work there.
It never was.

FDR and other war time Presidents....they stayed right on the task and work at hand, Mr. President. Lincoln did not leave the White House telegraph room during the battle of Gettysburg. That is 72 hour straight. GWB did not leave Washington during the two battles of Falluga. Staying there for two weeks straight. Most of the time in the Pentagon war room.

We understand that you do this job differently than other Presidents. We got and understand that. But you got to see this for what it is. We got caught with our pants down. That is because our President was diverted from his main task to protect the country.....
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