China state run news...just came out with it first take on the Korean Island artillery exchange. Last night their media led with it but had a slightly different take on things.
The had a North Korean official on that said South Korea fired the first shots.
While there is video evidence that they first rounds to fall were in the South Korean Island. It seems China has decided to ignore the images and settle for the NKorean version.
China is going to be allot of help in this situation. Or should I say....self help.....it it does not help China, don't expect them to do anything.
The rest of the media was pretty much a distortion and a dissemination of old rheortic on the virtues of the solicialist and communist relationship between China and North Korea.
No wonder google, twitter and facebook have been controlled in China. The Chinese did not want any outside live video of this preplanned attack on South Korea...leaking into the country. Inside China, the bad guys and first trigger puller here is the South Koreans.
This attack has been planned ever since the Chinese pressed for the control for google, facebook, twitter source. What did the Obama admiinstration say to when the communist government controlled their imputted sources into the country? Nothing. Said it was within the rights of the Chinese gov't to do such.
The SKorean attack was planned jointly....by both China and NKorea.
If that realization is not causing the White House to shudder....it should be. They have just handed off the leadership of 6 Party talks to the Chinese....by defacto....absence. Now the Chinese and NKorean are months ahead in a plan to control the far east. Personally, I doubt that they made the connection till just now.....when they that media report from Peking.
China is soon to field the US carrier killer cruise missile...the Dong Fong D21....then China will soon make military operations on the Island of Tiawan. With the US still deployed in the middle east...in south Korea.....to a make successful defense of Tiawan is a looking thin.
With China in the lead of the 6 party....all these military operations will only end when its military goals have been met. NKorea in SKorea. China in Tiawan. Give them a year of so....toss in Japan.
So what stops all this conventional warfare? US nuclear weapons. That President Obama is placing on the table with START. That President Obama wants to have a quick Senate ratification during the lame duck. I always wondered what 765b in Chinese T-bills bought....I think that I now know.
With Thanksgiving holiday on us....few in the US are watching closely the events in the far east. It will be that way thru the Christmas and New Years. China knows this. Right now they are planning Thanksgiving in Peking....with Tiawan duck.
President Obama better figure a way to get his gen y and x ers followrs to enlist. He is going to need them. He said he would expand the Army and Marine Corp by 60,000-70,000. But failed to do so. Cut high tech weapons by 110b. Is planning future DoD cuts. And most significantly trying to get START ratified in the Senate.
Every step he has taken.....has played into the Chinese plan of far east domination and expansion.
gardenhackle: It's because we know what the friggin' commie pinkos are talking about doing when they're chanting "YES WE CAN".
There is nothing "Commie" with those saying YES WE CAN gardenhackle... the situation sounds Commie in ur ears because your guys have not a thing good to suggest for America and then name calling the opponents is easier that way.
Hot_Single_Dude: There is nothing "Commie" with those saying YES WE CAN gardenhackle...
Didn't say there was. I guess I didn't make it clear enough for you. It's not saying "YES WE CAN" that's communist. It's knowing what they're planning on doing when they're saying that. You know, the "tax the bejesus out of those evil rich folks and businesses so we can all have easier lives without paying for it ourselves" sort of activities the pinkos dream about.
Hot_Single_Dude: No meeting in isle will be best for America and the presidnet must Veto these sad and mad asse* major time because other wise America will loose
Whatever... some of the most productive years this country has had were years when there was gridlock in Washington. The less "new" stuff the government does, the better.
gardenhackle: Didn't say there was. I guess I didn't make it clear enough for you. It's not saying "YES WE CAN" that's communist. It's knowing what they're planning on doing when they're saying that. You know, the "tax the bejesus out of those evil rich folks and businesses so we can all have easier lives without paying for it ourselves" sort of activities the pinkos dream about.
Not all americans are troubled because of unemployment or because of years living in poverty. Not all americans are suffering because of a lack og a propper health care coverage ...not all americans have no possibilities to get a godo education for their children because of being poor1 Not all americans got to beg for mercy becasue of getting old and having no money and so on...
More taxation of the rich is the way forward for paying the neccesary help for those country mne of yours who are sufferning because of being poor and beside who got to pay the cost of the militray and police and fire departements and roads and medicare and alot more all on place to have the country running if not more taxes on the rich? a 95 procent of americans receiving tax cuts and the last five procent got to pay more and even many americna rich are absoloutely agree a bout this. How can America get the necessary money in order to run the country then?
Just imagine the entire GOP who enjoyes receving govermental health care coverage for them selves and their families are fighting a gainst the rest of you guys having the same possibility for example! If this act particulary does not show the real face of those guys then I do not know what else they can do before you know what they are made of?
gardenhackle: Whatever... some of the most productive years this country has had were years when there was gridlock in Washington. The less "new" stuff the government does, the better.
Hot_Single_Dude: Not all americans are troubled because of unemployment or because of years living in poverty. Not all americans are suffering because of a lack og a propper health care coverage ...not all americans have no possibilities to get a godo education for their children because of being poor1 Not all americans got to beg for mercy becasue of getting old and having no money and so on...
More taxation of the rich is the way forward for paying the neccesary help for those country mne of yours who are sufferning because of being poor and beside who got to pay the cost of the militray and police and fire departements and roads and medicare and alot more all on place to have the country running if not more taxes on the rich? a 95 procent of americans receiving tax cuts and the last five procent got to pay more and even many americna rich are absoloutely agree a bout this. How can America get the necessary money in order to run the country then?
Just imagine the entire GOP who enjoyes receving govermental health care coverage for them selves and their families are fighting a gainst the rest of you guys having the same possibility for example! If this act particulary does not show the real face of those guys then I do not know what else they can do before you know what they are made of?
Hot_Single_Dude: Not all americans are troubled because of unemployment or because of years living in poverty. Not all americans are suffering because of a lack og a propper health care coverage ...not all americans have no possibilities to get a godo education for their children because of being poor1 Not all americans got to beg for mercy becasue of getting old and having no money and so on...
More taxation of the rich is the way forward for paying the neccesary help for those country mne of yours who are sufferning because of being poor and beside who got to pay the cost of the militray and police and fire departements and roads and medicare and alot more all on place to have the country running if not more taxes on the rich? a 95 procent of americans receiving tax cuts and the last five procent got to pay more and even many americna rich are absoloutely agree a bout this. How can America get the necessary money in order to run the country then?
Just imagine the entire GOP who enjoyes receving govermental health care coverage for them selves and their families are fighting a gainst the rest of you guys having the same possibility for example! If this act particulary does not show the real face of those guys then I do not know what else they can do before you know what they are made of?
Typical politicans I'd say in regards to both parties when it relates to health care etc.
ttom500: LOL...it was a great country before President Obama took office and will be a great country after he leaves office. Yes, a few dollar shorter in the pocket. But still a great country.
Will it really and truly be?I mean will things really get better or will be in the very shape we're in now?
It seems like it hasn't really matter which side of the coin takes over cause to me nothing really has changed for the better.
Ccincy: Typical politicans I'd say in regards to both parties when it relates to health care etc.
For met the matter is very simple... the imprtant in my eyes is what political party is the one fighting agaisnt the rights of the weak and there is no dobnt what so ever Republicans and right winged generally are the biggest deniers of human rights and those creating hatered against the weak in America
ttom500: In your spirital judgment of human beings, what gives you the authority to say that?
His Bottomless Arrogance! The one he's been displaying here all along! And notched up after that Tragic Loss of over Sixty Seats in the House,and the loss of several Seats in the Senate!
Korea. President Obama has sent a battle carrier fleet to Korean water.
The mission(s) have not been defined. So here we have a inexperience POTUS that has never put on a military uniform....facing off with a nuclear armed country....that just took 1 and 1/2 hours of 5 inch pot shots and torpedo sank a frigate of a neighboring country. Tore up the 60 year peace truce a few months back.So officially a state of war exists.
Just got China to accept that that South Korea fired the first rounds in the artillery duel. As they said in their media of recent.
And you want me to believe he is a better POTUS for the situation than John McCain, a 20 year naval Lt Commander officer with carrier certification. That was in a far east prison camp for 6 years. that has 6 terms in the US Senate?
You cannot see how McCain would use this battle carrier fleet in a total different way....against the North Korean.....than Obama will? Would not use our military assets in the region, totally different than Obama will?
Can you really say....that the South Koreans are happy with Obama in the position.....and McCain is not? They have not been singing Obama praises, if you have not noticed.
He is doing well so far....but this face off has just begun. NKorea is sitting back seeing how he deploys. Waiting on orders from Peking. This one is more than deployments.......what should he do with the 120 aircraft of various type that are on that carrier? What missions should they go on? Or do they sit on the launch deck for making pictures?
Korea. President Obama has sent a battle carrier fleet to Korean water.
The mission(s) have not been defined. So here we have a inexperience POTUS that has never put on a military uniform....facing off with a nuclear armed country....that just took 1 and 1/2 hours of 5 inch pot shots and torpedo sank a frigate of a neighboring country. Tore up the 60 year peace truce a few months back.So officially a state of war exists.
Just got China to accept that that South Korea fired the first rounds in the artillery duel. As they said in their media of recent.
And you want me to believe he is a better POTUS for the situation than John McCain, a 20 year naval Lt Commander officer with carrier certification. That was in a far east prison camp for 6 years. that has 6 terms in the US Senate?
You cannot see how McCain would use this battle carrier fleet in a total different way....against the North Korean.....than Obama will? Would not use our military assets in the region, totally different than Obama will?
Can you really say....that the South Koreans are happy with Obama in the position.....and McCain is not? They have not been singing Obama praises, if you have not noticed.
He is doing well so far....but this face off has just begun. NKorea is sitting back seeing how he deploys. Waiting on orders from Peking. This one is more than deployments.......what should he do with the 120 aircraft of various type that are on that carrier? What missions should they go on? Or do they sit on the launch deck for making pictures?
A very well balanced article regarding the situation :
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
Someones got to do something about your inane ranting on and on about Obama.
Enough is enough, just emigrate, chage up the Whitehouse lawn shouting "Obama, I love you" and i bet even the Snipers on the roof will be laughing so much you won't get shot.
Please try at least a dozen times though, as I'm sick and tired of Obama threads keep being posted.
RobbieM: Someones got to do something about your inane ranting on and on about Obama.
Enough is enough, just emigrate, chage up the Whitehouse lawn shouting "Obama, I love you" and i bet even the Snipers on the roof will be laughing so much you won't get shot.
Please try at least a dozen times though, as I'm sick and tired of Obama threads keep being posted.
In short, get a bloody life
Thank you for your honest oponion Robbie!
Get the Hell out of my threads then ... Bon Voyage! Never come back! Bye
How are you any way? Seem absoloutely out raged ey? what is burning over there? Your Bottom or some thing?
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The had a North Korean official on that said South Korea fired the first shots.
While there is video evidence that they first rounds to fall were in the
South Korean Island. It seems China has decided to ignore the images and settle for the NKorean version.
China is going to be allot of help in this situation. Or should I say....self help.....it it does not help China, don't expect them to do anything.
The rest of the media was pretty much a distortion and a dissemination of old rheortic on the virtues of the solicialist and communist relationship between China and North Korea.
No wonder google, twitter and facebook have been controlled in China. The Chinese did not want any outside live video of this preplanned attack on South Korea...leaking into the country. Inside China, the bad guys and first trigger puller here is the South Koreans.
This attack has been planned ever since the Chinese pressed for the control for google, facebook, twitter source. What did the Obama admiinstration say to when the communist government controlled their imputted sources into the country? Nothing. Said it was within the rights of the Chinese gov't to do such.
The SKorean attack was planned jointly....by both China and NKorea.
If that realization is not causing the White House to shudder....it should be. They have just handed off the leadership of 6 Party talks to the Chinese....by defacto....absence. Now the Chinese and NKorean are months ahead in a plan to control the far east. Personally, I doubt that they made the connection till just now.....when they that media report from Peking.
China is soon to field the US carrier killer cruise missile...the Dong Fong D21....then China will soon make military operations on the Island of Tiawan. With the US still deployed in the middle east...in south Korea.....to a make successful defense of Tiawan is a looking thin.
With China in the lead of the 6 party....all these military operations will only end when its military goals have been met. NKorea in SKorea.
China in Tiawan. Give them a year of so....toss in Japan.
So what stops all this conventional warfare? US nuclear weapons. That President Obama is placing on the table with START. That President Obama wants to have a quick Senate ratification during the lame duck.
I always wondered what 765b in Chinese T-bills bought....I think that I now know.
With Thanksgiving holiday on us....few in the US are watching closely the events in the far east. It will be that way thru the Christmas and New Years. China knows this. Right now they are planning Thanksgiving in Peking....with Tiawan duck.
President Obama better figure a way to get his gen y and x ers followrs to enlist. He is going to need them. He said he would expand the Army and Marine Corp by 60,000-70,000. But failed to do so. Cut high tech weapons by 110b. Is planning future DoD cuts. And most significantly trying to get START ratified in the Senate.
Every step he has taken.....has played into the Chinese plan of far east domination and expansion.