America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers! (714)

Nov 21, 2010 9:58 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
jvaski: Hey.....these people are having a conversation here ...

It takes a lot of constant hammering to get through thick skulls .......
YES YOU CAN JV thumbs up
Nov 21, 2010 10:00 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
jvaski: Well, at least we don't have to answer to another country ( UK ) and royalty ( your Queen )
rolling on the floor laughing applause
Nov 21, 2010 10:02 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude: Good to see you skippy

Since the entire shape of the planet earth is some how up to who is the president in USA then I do not find any other matters more important than writing a bout american politics.
agreed,IF you knew about it,Dude!

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Nov 21, 2010 10:05 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
skippyguy: instant gratification...LOL..every country could say that to an
extent, that does not excuse poor decisions made in parliament or in power. !, i could name many, one slow response to oil leak, !!, there is no excuse for thAT..AND people on the ground showed there anger, and the lack of vision....from day one should have been getting together with professionals seeking opnions, but no leave it to Bp...., entitlement to wealth, can be construed in many ways, but forcing people to pay for health is a great way, to kill that one, it should be about choice.....for anyone


This oilleak was some how the responsibiliy of those Dang Repube heads as well you see?

The stupid Cheney organisation of Halliburton is AGAIN some how responsible for this catastrophy and if god forbidden Repube heads had won the presidency in 2008, BP would be all held out of responsibiliy by paying a lousy amount of 75 million to cover the dammagesconversing

Too many americans still not able to see this fact then it is becasue the Democratic party have been not good in explaining the situation and because they are still too nice toward these Republicans who do not Deserve being nice toward what so ever conversing
Nov 21, 2010 10:18 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
jvaski: Here's a little clip I dug up .....maybe you might be more concerned with your own country's problems for now ?

"New Zealand today is almost unrecognizable as the clean, green peaceable kingdom that its name conjured up for decades. The impact of the wholesale, overnight, application of New Right ideology to the economy and politics of this country staggers the imagination. From a country of few class distinctions, little crime, negligible family violence and a history of almost no unemployment, New Zealand's social stats now read more like a developing country than one which ranked third in standard of living before the revolution.

Since 1985, when the changes really began to take hold, the youth suicide rate has more than doubled, giving New Zealand the highest rate in the world. A Dutch crime study of twenty industrial countries put this country where people never locked their doors, at the top of the lists of: violent crime, burglaries, and the percentage of people experiencing crime. Welfare rates have been slashed and benefits targeted in one of the most draconian welfare `reform' efforts of any developed country. Hundreds of families simply go without food for the last few days of the benefit period; food banks are everywhere; newspapers are full of stories of children being sent home from school too hungry to concentrate. Twenty-six per cent of children live below the poverty line. "


Interesting words in deed JV

I am sure these facts got some thing to do with New Zealand "National party" being on charge which is deep going Conservatives and Cons on power means a horrible BS of not doing any thing "right" what so ever, as the horrible regim of the Bushney,s certaily proofed not too long time a go in America or when ever they took over in America.

The ugly fact is... most places when social security disasters are reality and more and more people are dananged in lives because of that ... the same Nationla movemnet stuff will get wond under it,s Claws and too many people doing the exact opposite of what they shoud be doing when going to polls dunno

New Zealnad should probabely learn form their big brother Austrailia and rejecting Cons on power but still most times when Austrailia goes left, New Zealand goes right and when Austrailia goes right , New Zealand goes left at least in the way people think over there.

New Zealand is generally a right winged society specially because of social problems and because Cons have succeded to force people believe that every body is on his own and every body experiencing trouble in life is some how Guilty... dunno
Nov 21, 2010 10:26 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Let us move to 5000 miles away....to NKorea.

North Korea just showed the former director of the US Los Alamos Nuclear facility.....a secret and hidden nuclear material processing site that had 2000 centrifuges spinning away it.

Sigfried Heckler on his return to the US....said...it was 'stunning'.

The North Koreans said the material is for a new reactor that they hope to have up and gieger clicking away soon. Ain't they sweet. Knock one down and put one up.

The South Korean take on this....'is to force the Obama administration back to the negotiation table with NKorea'. This said by Yank Moon-jin professor at University of North Korean Studies in Soul.

The NKorean said they started the facility in April of 2009 and just had completed it. That is only 1 and 1/2 years. Some one has a mass production line of centrifuges that they are keeping under wraps. A Henry Ford of nuclear centrifuges is out there in the world someplace. If you guessing someplace in NKorea...I would not bet against you.

Yang-jin.....said the display was also for the NKorean General Command consumption. That by going public on the facility that can make highly enrich nuclear bomb grade making materials (according to Heckler). That this means the NKorean gov't is willing to provide them with more nucs.

Hence the young regime of the next Kim is becoming established.

My suggestion is....we need nuclear powered autos and other vehicles....that way everyone on the block can have his/her own centrifuge for kicking out LEU materials and the infrequent nut case can spin his a little faster for his need for speed and HEU materials that go BOOM.


I am sure N Korea got nuclear bombs alreay TT... it is not that difficult producing that shi* and they have worked for years becoming able making some and that is the main reason why it is more than necessary with evne more anctions on the same time making sure their civilian needs specially fuel and food are provided and beside it is more than necessary for the international community doing what ever possible makig North and South Korea stopping war behaviour for these too many years after the physical war was over there.

North Korea is a very hard place but I am sure there are ways to make them behave propperly and making progress and at least stop threatening the rest of us with their nucs... it is late already and North Korea made their first nucs during the Bushney,s time... it was unfortunatily not science fiction or propoganda and they got the damn thing slreay dunno
Nov 21, 2010 10:31 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: GM....the company that just had its IPO...since bankruptcy and is being hailed as the great Obama corporate turn around....

Is about to send its near all electric (the Volt) to the dealers and to the marketplace. If these is one thing that Americans know how to do ...it is anaylsis if a car is going to be a success in the market. We have more than one failure of recent....less I say Hummer at this point.
......to practice the assessment from.

The first take on GM's Volt.....is not promising. The projected sales for both the Nissan all EV Leaf and GM's Volt is 30000 unit in the US. Can someone say...Ouch. That a very small fraction of the marketplace. If you divide the market between them....that 15,000 units each.

I will not return to the issue of GM former CEO Wagoner that the Obama administration placed under its all electric bus....to much....but Wagnor said in sworn Congressional testimony that his Volt was going to sell for $26,000 and they would sell 25,000 unit the first year.

The principle reason that the Obama model Volt is projecting sales of 15,000 unit? High price. The Obama Model Volt is going to sell at near $45,000. Rats, funny things happen when you move to a socialist managed government.

Now I know Dude considers this nagging...that the American auto consumer....should be on his knees and thanking the White House for the Volt. But as they say on the used car lot, a lemon is lemon....and I rather you have it, than me.

Other than having a nice exterior and interior look, the Volt is a It has the get up and go of a snail and the its electric power is only good for 40 miles. Then you turn on a 3 cylinder motor, that is little larger than your mower for cutting grass. Its mileage is 40 mpg, a respectful figure. But you got to charge the battery every 40 miles. Either by use or cord. Just a minute let me run out side and plug my Volt in. You don't mind if I siffon some Kws from you today?

I think we can use the Volt in our war on terrorism. We give some to the Taliban and alQeada in Afghanistan...and in Yemen. Tell them they are gifts from the Obama Administration for all the touchie feelies that the TSA is getting at present. When the Volt runs out of juice....in swoops the Predator to finish off bin laden and al-Awlaki. They don't have many electric out lets in these remote area were these boys ride.

But back to GM. GM stock on the first day of trade bumped. The next day it fell. With the Volt to hit the show room soon, we will have the first test of the Obama turn around of GM. Because if the stock tanks from its $34 per share...so did the IPO and turn around. By the way....the financially anaylist are saying that for GM to repay it bailout funds....it needs to sell at $55 per share. So anyone for saying the 15,000 Volt in sales is going to push the GM stock up $22?

Okie Dokie.....if so, I have a bridge with you to talk about ....


I know already TT... You definately hate it when american know how wins over others and american jobs are created in your country because those Chineeses running with the dang money suits your guys much more and that have been the very stincky Fact a bout Republicans like for ever dunno

GE and other Real american companies are going to Kick your Guys Butts major time I asure you because no matter what... Real Americans love their contry and more and more will become interested in politics and will begin to think more. conversing
Nov 21, 2010 10:32 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: India....for the $10b contract that they gave Obama on his trip.
No TT... conracts with India will create tousands of new american jobs tongue
Nov 21, 2010 10:38 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
tango469
tango469tango469Taylorsville, Mississippi USA1 Posts
Perhaps you should read our Constitution....it's obvious '0' (that's a zero) and his buddies on the left and most of the media and sadly few on the right have read what they have sworn to up hold. They should be brought up on charges of malfeasances (at the very least).
I suggest you tend to your own problems in Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark. I pray we never get to be as Liberal as Denmark.
Go ahead and fix your country before you try to tell us how to run ours......had it not been for us you would only be speaking German today and certainly wouldn't have access to the internet if there was such a thing.
Nov 21, 2010 10:41 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude: No TT... conracts with India will create tousands of new american jobs
What friggen Contracts?rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 21, 2010 10:41 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
oldfoxyguy
oldfoxyguyoldfoxyguyLarnaca, Cyprus12 Threads 5 Polls 513 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I know already TT... You definately hate it when american know how wins over others and american jobs are created in your country because those Chineeses running with the dang money suits your guys much more and that have been the very stincky Fact a bout Republicans like for ever

GE and other Real american companies are going to Kick your Guys Butts major time I asure you because no matter what... Real Americans love their contry and more and more will become interested in politics and will begin to think more.


Good Grief Dude, the guy who wrote this stuff today is virtually illiterate in English. I like it better when one of the smart Dudes post on here. At least they can spell and create a fairly intellegent sentence. Todays dude sounds like a teenager. rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 21, 2010 10:43 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
oldfoxyguy: Good Grief Dude, the guy who wrote this stuff today is virtually illiterate in English. I like it better when one of the smart Dudes post on here. At least they can spell and create a fairly intellegent sentence. Todays dude sounds like a teenager.
They must be having an Unlimited Supply of Dudes waiting in the Wings!rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 21, 2010 10:51 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
oldfoxyguy: Good Grief Dude, the guy who wrote this stuff today is virtually illiterate in English. I like it better when one of the smart Dudes post on here. At least they can spell and create a fairly intellegent sentence. Todays dude sounds like a teenager.


Maybe, just maybe there would be a nice Republican, step forward and offer to "proof read" all of Dude's comments. professor

They would be able to correct any comments, before he posts them!grin

Any volunteers? dunno

Just an idea!

Just kidding Dude...have a great day! comfort

-John-
Nov 21, 2010 11:12 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
This explains why our politicans aren't able to follow the Constitution.It's upside down.


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Nov 21, 2010 12:13 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
tango469: Perhaps you should read our Constitution....it's obvious '0' (that's a zero) and his buddies on the left and most of the media and sadly few on the right have read what they have sworn to up hold. They should be brought up on charges of malfeasances (at the very least).
I suggest you tend to your own problems in Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn Denmark. I pray we never get to be as Liberal as Denmark.
Go ahead and fix your country before you try to tell us how to run ours......had it not been for us you would only be speaking German today and certainly wouldn't have access to the internet if there was such a thing.


Weclome to this thread Tango??????cheers

How dare you calling your profile a "Communist" thing ?scold tongue

Becareful Glenn Beck does not come after you uh oh grin
Nov 21, 2010 12:16 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
oldfoxyguy: Good Grief Dude, the guy who wrote this stuff today is virtually illiterate in English. I like it better when one of the smart Dudes post on here. At least they can spell and create a fairly intellegent sentence. Todays dude sounds like a teenager.


what ever Foxy... blah

Still on flee from the states? Tax fraud or universal or better healthc ar ecoverage or? confused
Nov 21, 2010 12:18 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TheresMyFriend: Maybe, just maybe there would be a nice Republican, step forward and offer to "proof read" all of Dude's comments.

They would be able to correct any comments, before he posts them!

Any volunteers?

Just an idea!

Just kidding Dude...have a great day!

-John-


Have a great day too john !cheers
Nov 21, 2010 12:25 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude: I am sure N Korea got nuclear bombs alreay TT... it is not that difficult producing that shi* and they have worked for years becoming able making some and that is the main reason why it is more than necessary with evne more anctions on the same time making sure their civilian needs specially fuel and food are provided and beside it is more than necessary for the international community doing what ever possible makig North and South Korea stopping war behaviour for these too many years after the physical war was over there.

North Korea is a very hard place but I am sure there are ways to make them behave propperly and making progress and at least stop threatening the rest of us with their nucs... it is late already and North Korea made their first nucs during the Bushney,s time... it was unfortunatily not science fiction or propoganda and they got the damn thing slreay
Bet you have made some yourself and stashed them under your bed!

Fess up!uh oh
Nov 21, 2010 12:50 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I know already TT... You definately hate it when american know how wins over others and american jobs are created in your country because those Chineeses running with the dang money suits your guys much more and that have been the very stincky Fact a bout Republicans like for ever

GE and other Real american companies are going to Kick your Guys Butts major time I asure you because no matter what... Real Americans love their contry and more and more will become interested in politics and will begin to think more.



That is economic logic for you....GE and other real American companies are going to kick the REP (54m) and Tea Party Butts (25m)...so basically how is GE and other real American companies going to kick over 1/2 of teh voting (adult) population's butt.....by raising prices?

Not to mention if they raise prices on one group of people and not the entire country....it is call a form of discrimination.....so really doubt that GE or American company that wants to stay in businsss in the country is going to kick any REP or Tea Party butt.
Nov 21, 2010 12:52 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
BellaTheRebel48
BellaTheRebel48BellaTheRebel48Minneapolis, Minnesota USA7 Threads 2 Polls 242 Posts
Things have gone horribly wrong here in Minnesota because we have a recount getting started yet again. This time it's between former state Senator Mark Dayton, a democrat and Tom Emmer, a republican, who has been twice convicted for drunk driving and sponsored legislation to make it easier for drunk drivers to get off with basically a slap on the wrist.

How the election for governor got so close is beyond the end of enough in believability!!help

What are people thinking?????????

shock uncertain
Nov 21, 2010 1:25 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
ttom500: Give her the right armament, and she can do something about it as well.....


That's precisely what we're all afriad of...soccer-mom starting another war because she thinks it's cool ...doh
Nov 21, 2010 4:17 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: Bet you have made some yourself and stashed them under your bed!

Fess up!
Get the freak out of here you little militant right winged monster tongue
Nov 21, 2010 4:31 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: That is economic logic for you....GE and other real American companies are going to kick the REP (54m) and Tea Party Butts (25m)...so basically how is GE and other real American companies going to kick over 1/2 of teh voting (adult) population's butt.....by raising prices?

Not to mention if they raise prices on one group of people and not the entire country....it is call a form of discrimination.....so really doubt that GE or American company that wants to stay in businsss in the country is going to kick any REP or Tea Party butt.


Teapublicans are not that many any way so dream on TT and keep enjoying the momentum which is rather normal in America during any midturms ... this thing will not last what so ever and majority of americnas already know that you and ut guys are definately NOT the solution what so ever... actually Barack Obama is doing ok since even one of the very best americna presidents Bill Clinton lost both houses back then... the same fact a bout midturm elections have really scared you guys major time and you could not get your hands on the Senate tongue

The most important matter for America is americna jobs and your Bushney,s have used americans tax money to help out sourcing americna jobs when ever they took power in America TT. Profit is what matters for Republicans and their endorsers and her eby I mena some big corporations of course and not people voting Republicans or better called teapublicans.

People voting mostly because of frustration and frustration alone does not help much in order to recover America after the dark years of George W Bush and his guys.

I Bet Real american companies are going to kick your butts TT... Very soon the same patriot act done by Bill Clinton back then will repeat and MADE IN AMERICA goods will push those cheap chineeses goods out of marked I asure you.

I see a mass sucide amoung Chamber of Commerce guys as the most honorable act they can do in order to keep a little face at least... Beck and O,Reily shuold join your guys all jumping from Gloden Gate Briddge... by the way how come so many Repube head monsters getting Hemorides in their Asse* as Glenn Beck did lately? Some Secretiv activities of GOP dudes you want to share since you got a lot knowledge from there TT? rolling on the floor laughing
Nov 21, 2010 4:46 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Nov 21, 2010 4:52 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
How stupid can a political movemnet really get? Absoloutely out raged and not ever seen before this beahviour of Repube head endorsers right winged anti american fellows over there!



Who are these kind of guys any way? "Amercians" when they even trying to humiliate an american war hero? doh
Nov 21, 2010 5:01 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Nov 21, 2010 5:27 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Teapublicans are not that many any way so dream on TT and keep enjoying the momentum which is rather normal in America during any midturms ... this thing will not last what so ever and majority of americnas already know that you and ut guys are definately NOT the solution what so ever... actually Barack Obama is doing ok since even one of the very best americna presidents Bill Clinton lost both houses back then... the same fact a bout midturm elections have really scared you guys major time and you could not get your hands on the Senate

The most important matter for America is americna jobs and your Bushney,s have used americans tax money to help out sourcing americna jobs when ever they took power in America TT. Profit is what matters for Republicans and their endorsers and her eby I mena some big corporations of course and not people voting Republicans or better called teapublicans.

People voting mostly because of frustration and frustration alone does not help much in order to recover America after the dark years of George W Bush and his guys.

I Bet Real american companies are going to kick your butts TT... Very soon the same patriot act done by Bill Clinton back then will repeat and MADE IN AMERICA goods will push those cheap chineeses goods out of marked I asure you.

I see a mass sucide amoung Chamber of Commerce guys as the most honorable act they can do in order to keep a little face at least... Beck and O,Reily shuold join your guys all jumping from Gloden Gate Briddge... by the way how come so many Repube head monsters getting Hemorides in their Asse* as Glenn Beck did lately? Some Secretiv activities of GOP dudes you want to share since you got a lot knowledge from there TT?


If you listen to the REP pundits....they say the TEA Party is what turned the tide for the REP canidate. You need to put a honest handle on how DEM lost 60 seats in the Congress. Just telling us that BHO is the greatest thing since sliced bread....does not work any more.

BHO did not push Made in Americna to get elected. He is the one for international trade agreements and for being friendly with every country in the world. Why did he renegotiate the SKorean trade agreement that he could not then sign?

He is the one that asked for the renogiatations....the why is the first had GWB name on it. It was not good enough for our BHO....now he has nothing. That is good planning. There was more in that single trade agreement than the 10b contract with India. he loses it because he egotistical and like you ...think that if it was REP written, it is wrong.

A good question to ask...is how many American jobs are lost because the trade agreement was not signed.

FYI...the Chamber said it not going to oppose some of Obama agenda in the second half.....better be nice....the chamber is a lot of votes on the House floor now.
Nov 21, 2010 5:28 PM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
Hot_Single_Dude: Read this and learn some thing Bushney head endorsers:

Puffington Lost has finally softened your Brains,Dude!laugh
Nov 22, 2010 4:44 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Well seems that display of 2000 spinning centrifuges worked.

The US is to begin talk with NKorea......and guess what? Now it back to 6 party talks. Dang, guess old GWB had it right back then.....when he first put the 6 party talks together. Dang and your contributing blogger white paper that the 6 party was the way to go.......

The US SKorean envoy.....Stephen Bosworth....announced in Soul. When he said the following "My crystal ball is foggy but I would never call any process dead. We have hope to that we will be able to resucitate them."

If that is not diplomatic double talk......then please leave your hat at the door. Stephen does not want to show the administration weak in the area. After failing to get a SKoran trade agreement and now being forced to use the 6 party talks again.

The Korean issue has so badly been handled by the present Administration...it is amazing that the SKorean are letting Americans set foot into their country. They registered that by holding off on signing the trade agreement.

It started with Washington's half hearted support of SKorean when the Chonan was sunk. The SKorean wanted to take the issue to the UN Security Council. Only good old Washington step in deflected it from going there. No reason to rattle those sabers, when only 46 Skorean died. Maybe the number for saber rattling is 200 deathes, who know....only Washington does.

Washington response the Chonan sinking was to surface a cruise carrying boomer near NKorea...placing it and it crew into danger. Latter we have two boomer captian stand the Captian mast....for saying things critical of the Administration. Those things are still non public....the trials have not ended yet.

Then President Obama, who had already done a reset on the trade pact already agreed to at the end of the GWB last term. Want to to do his trade pact for the Obama Asia show of recent. Only the SKorean bowed politely and turned collective their backs to him. They were still ticked about the Chonan and his nampy pampy response to it.

Now NKorea show a nuc material process plant to a American scientist...
and the 6 party talks are going to 'resucitated'. Placing China and Russia into the driver seat on the talks....Obama has lost the figurative head of them. It was he that broke them up, when he want to individually engage NKorea.

So this is a unmitigated disaster that he has going in Korea. How one man can lose the political influence, prestiges and power of the Office of the Presidency so fast in a mere two year of residency....is amazing in Koreas.

What works in European diplomacy, does not work in Korea were the DMZ is the most fortified zone in the world. But that is exactly how the Obama administration has played this. They played the Chonan sinking as if it was a friendly fire incident. Or a accident. It was not...it was a act of war by a country that torn up the truce agreement months earlier.

The SKorean response was not accidental. They let President Obama hang on the Trade Pact signing till the last minute.....then walked away.
They fired a broad side into his Asia trip that he is still reeling from. Basically saying....we don't need the US trade. Not when we sit so close to monster China.

Well the SKorea/US relationship was develop during the Korean war....that cost the United States....53,000 in deaths. President Obama has been able in two short years...make them all null, void and irrelevant. One might even say...in vain deaths.
Nov 22, 2010 5:21 AM CST America is recovering! Obama deserves Credit and not Nagging liers!
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
ttom500: The US SKorean envoy.....Stephen Bosworth....announced in Soul. When he said the following "My crystal ball is foggy but I would never call any process dead. We have hope to that we will be able to resucitate them."


That's "Well, there's always next time" when translated into layman's terms.
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