speaking of God...and what about forgiveness

Perhaps you could be both giver and taker....that what life is.....giving and takinglaugh

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I never looked at it that way Robert. I am curious how you would fit between them.

I gotta becarefulandnot ask you questions. ...otherwise, I am out of here.

speaking of God...and what about forgiveness

Robert, something tells me you got into the wrong profession. A preacher would have been much more fitting for you. thumbs up You should have went in there and gave them your blessings while they were yelling. laugh

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Jac,


"Perhaps she is reflecting his own lack of personal responsibility in that statement. Perhaps she is more astute than you have given her credit for. Perhaps he has had a part to play in their mutual interaction."


I should add, he is an Atheist. (if that means anything)

Yes, he does play a role in their mutual interaction. He could have just distanced himself from her when learning her story more in depth.

About the reflecting of his own lack of personal responsibility in that statement...I don't know...that is some pretty deep stuff there. lol

About she being more astute than I give credit for...in the main blog I just explained the situation as it was told to me.

Oh boy Jac, I am starting to go into the mist of confusion again here.

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Okay Jac, I understand what you are saying.

One way would be more healthier stance than the other.

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Thank you for that clarification. There is a fine line there and they can be confused...but, important to understand the distinction...I believe.

speaking of God...and what about forgiveness

one lyric that caught my attention was about forgiveness preventing things from eating you from the inside


...in line with what jac has been saying

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thank you for sharing

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C.C.,

I have read your comments a couple times to get a good understanding of everything you are saying, and I must say it is a very interesting perspective.; one, I have never heard of before. I understand the logic behind it and it does make sense. I would not come out and say that all religious people do not have a genuine understanding of what is right and wrong / practical and decent....but in the case of this blog story, the woman mentioned would fit in perfectly with your perspective. thumbs up

Thank you so much for sharing that.

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Jac,

"Using one's own good judgement may be to walk away from a toxic relationship for one's own preservation. That's not the same as judging that person's behaviour, nor the same as a church banning someone."

I agree with that Jac.

In the first sentence, using good judgement creates an action...walk away from toxic relationship.
In your last statement, church banning someone...another action.

In you statement about judging a person's behavior, you mention emotions are invoked.



I suppose what I have been saying is that judging and judgement are tied together.
Emotions (from judging for example) are also a source for motivation. Motivation is a source for making actionable decisions.

So, you are right about judgement and judging are different...but judgement is dependent on judging...I would suspect anyway. emotion to motivation to action
(judging) (result of emotion) (judgement)

dunno

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Hello M4,

I agree with that. I feel that is where it becomes beneficial for an individual to have healthy boundaries, to not allow people with ill intent to effective them too deeply. After all, people have a right to live their lives the way they see fit...and that includes manipulating others...unfortunately. As long as they follow the laws of the land, they are entitled to their lives. It is important for people to be able to say no when appropriate and recognize when their beings are being compromised. Some people have a no-go zone, some boundaries breaches there are no recovery from...however...most minor breaches can be resolved with communication.

my opinion anyway.

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No Robert, this time that story of a friend of mine, is really as it was...he was a friend of mine...and not me. laugh

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IW, I suspect that one of them wanted something more longer term in mind and the other had no intentions of anything remotely long term.

Desperate people do desperate things....the one wanting longer term was desperate (in my opinion). Otherwise, the writing was clearly on the wall that a long term relationship was likely not going to be. Using common sense, if you will, could have saved them a lot of emotional turmoil. But....sometimes life is just that way...live and learn too.

dunno

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You are well KN. Thank you. wine

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Itchy....coffee laugh


It was an on and off thing Itchy.

Some men cannot control their urges and will do anything and put up with anything...even when they know better. I since moved from that area of the world and only keep brief phone conversations with him. As far as I remember, they did finally break it off...

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...especially if you are single and looking to find a partner


...or if you are doing business dealing with

...or if you value your safety


...or if you are seeking peace

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KN,

It is always good to understand what makes a negative person tick.

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laugh Robert,

I can be scary at times....like a prison guard. rolling on the floor laughing

lol, okay not that bad.

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Jac,

Ultimately you are right...

"There's a difference between using one's judgement and judging others."


I would think though, you would need to judge somebody/situation...before using judgement.

dunno

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Hey Robert...with the tough economy, I dropped my spending level to $20. I am actually hoping with the age of equality, they will be spending the hundreds on me one day. rolling on the floor laughing tongue


...oh boy...suppose I opened up some worms.

cheers

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Hello Kat,

Thank you for additional information/clarification. From what I am understanding, there is only forgiveness with repentance. That is interesting as well. So with that said, just asking for forgiveness is not enough to have it granted.

Then, if somebody enters into a sinful act, knowing it is sinful, with expectations of being forgiven for it....knowing they will ask for forgiveness and repent later......

I am not expert...just trying to better understand...

It sounds to me what you have added...adds to the forgiveness portion rather address playing God as a fool.

dunno

Thank you...great information.

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Raph.....yes...those darn diseases. laugh

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Itchy....excellent point!

That very well might be the answer to this whole ordeal.


Very good.

Thank you very much for sharing that.

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Hello Cap,

I would ask you, do what again? But, I cannot...because of the rules. laugh tongue

Just teasing Cap. Thank you. I don't mind being reminded, or in this case, introduced to the rules. Rules are the rules, are the rules.

Thanks Cap.

Nice seeing you again.

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Hello Molly,

Christianity an ideal to live up to....that very well could be. I don't know. The Bible is claimed to be the word of God.

What I think I know though....whoever wrote the Bible...especially when it was written 1000s of years ago...before the documented study of human psychology...whoever wrote it was very intelligent.

I think you are right about choosing our partners....choose wisely.


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BC,

I totally agree with what you say. But nowhere is it written in the Bible that is the case...what you say. At least I thought so...I see ItchyWitch brings up a wonderful point.

Thanks BC.

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Very good point Starray about the 10 Commandments. One would assume if you are a Christian, you would know about them and try to avoid committing them.

But God being a forgiving God...makes me wonder to what extent.

Thanks for pointing that out as well.

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I appreciate the rules information Jim. Thank you.

speaking of God...and what about forgiveness

Okay Ms. Usha....I am back...ask away. :) I cannot ask you though. :( laugh

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String...interesting about Mary M.

Thank you.

speaking of God...and what about forgiveness

...k...that time of the day where I need to get going.

Thanks all...will be back.

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