Derek Chauvin...

I don't know, DeeDee

The last I saw of it was me commenting in response to bigjb saying you had a quite miniscule intelligence in you brain and that like many you thought you knew something.

I asked him if that was his defense idea in the event of a retrial.

I'm almost sure it would have got Chauvin off, y'know, women being too stupid to look at that footage and realise that George Floyd killed himself.

Derek Chauvin...

That similar to the whole class getting detention with the hope that the class turn on the culprit in private.

It's not a mature, nor a just way of dealing with accountability.

It just propagates and condones secretive brutality which is the very thing that is the problem in the first place.

Derek Chauvin...

The police system has been looking the other way with respect to it's own transgressions for a long time.

Establishing police accountability is necessary to all failures of the system, including all aspects of racial bias.

Unless we address conscious and unconscous bias, we cannot affect change.

I don't know how you come to the conclusion that 'not looking the other way' will lead to 'looking the other way'.

It's 'looking the other way' which leads to more 'looking the other way' because it establishes a culture where 'looking the other way' is acceptable.

Derek Chauvin...

It's like trying to get blood out of a stone, Fargo. laugh

What do you think her motives were and what do you think she got out of seeing you cry at sad movie endings?

Derek Chauvin...

Isn't it rare for charges to be dismissed on appeal?

Isn't it most likely that a successful appeal will mean the case is remanded?

A successful appeal doesn't mean Chauvin will walk free, but he may be retried.

I don't see how there would be grounds for dismissal if an appeal is based upon possible jury intimidation, rather than new evidence which impacts upon the validity of the evidence presented at trial.

It appears the defense was pretty inadequate which may have something to do with Chauvin's actions being indefensible, but at least a retrial would offer the opportunity for a more skilled challenge to the prosecuton.

What you don't want is successful appeals at a later date on the grounds that Chauvin was inadequately represented.

Maybe an opportunity was created for a retrial for reasons other than the obvious. dunno

Derek Chauvin...

Teaching her practical skills is commendable, but we habitually work with practical solutions and supress emotions.

It appears, however, that the planet is neither practically, nor emotionally healthy and maybe that's because the two are inextricably linked.

Thoughts, feelings and behaviours are what it is to be human. When we fail to balance them, we fail in our humanity.

We get behaviours like Derek Chauvin's.

Derek Chauvin...

How do expect me to know anything about the thoughts and feelings of your #2 ex-wife. Fargo?

Did you ask her?

Was she able to fully and conclusively express herself?

Derek Chauvin...

But saying 'women are always right' is a way of avoiding uncomfortable communication, I agree.

Derek Chauvin...

If men don't like to communicate, why are there so many men communicating on here?

I think perhaps, Merc, you're referring to certain types of communication and a mismatch between some men and some women which results from gender role stereotyping.

My daughter's generation appear to have moved forward a bit with that.

Derek Chauvin...

^^^^^ That was me getting autmatically logged out while I was writing.

Derek Chauvin...

Waving irrelevant graphs around to appear the cleverest, demanding that you're the rightest, getting upset at a lack of fawning...

Am I going to be fired from my blog in a matter of days...? shock

grin

Derek Chauvin...

You really missed the very obvious point there, Jim. sigh

Derek Chauvin...

So guns correlate, but the death penalty doesn't.

There's a clue in there somewhere, but I just can't quite put my finger on it...

Derek Chauvin...

Me neither. yay

Derek Chauvin...

We're always fine, eh, Merc? laugh hug

Derek Chauvin...

Perhaps prison security has developed since 1977.

Derek Chauvin...

Fourteen days, a year after the event is fairly swift in the general scheme of things.

Every defendant is entitled to due process; trial by public opinion and the media is not the same as evaluating all the available evidence.

Derek Chauvin...

You're not so much a debater as a gossip, eh, Mic? sigh

Derek Chauvin...

Is it...?

Rumour has it that states which have the death penalty have a higher incidence of murder than the states which don't. It appears to act less as a deterrent than a message from the state that homicide can be justified, or normalised

And how was Chauvin deterred by the law when he publicly murdered George Floyd? Like noone has ever been sentenced for murder in the US before and this is a precedent?

With respect to Chauvin's life, what difference does it make whether he gets a 20 year, or 40 year sentence? Either way it may, or may not be a whole life tariff given his age. Even if he survives 20 years, 65 years old and turfed out on the street in the US?

We have 72 people with a whole life tariff in the whole of the UK and that's a contentious ethical issue for us. The average life sentence in the UK is 15-20 years. If someone like Chauvin got a minimum of 20-25 years we'd consider that a hefty sentence.

I think the US 'toughness' with respect to sentencing hides a multitude of sins. One of them is that you seem to live in a far less caring society and another is that you seem to distance yourselves from your own culpability in that.


It's also a choice made in the context of an environment.

Everyone plays a part in society and everyone has both choice and limitations. We all bear some responsibilty when it comes to racial bias and cruelty if we don't examine our unconcious actions.

That's not going to change because of a maximum penalty.

A 40 year sentence just allows us to think we've solved the problem and to forget about it.

Somewhere between minimum and maximum means we have to work a little harder to make sure it doesn't keep happening.

Derek Chauvin...

As I understand it, the BLM movement supported Justine Diamond's family in the aftermath of her fatal shooting by Mohamed Noor.

These killings are a tragedy for everyone, including the perpetrators. The perpetrators ruin their own lives, and for what?

No, they are very complex, but blackness and whiteness has it's part to play.

Derek Chauvin may not have killed George Floyd simply because he was black, but perhaps believing he could kill him with impunity because he was black may have been a factor, or because he would have been perceived as inherently more dangerous because he was black, for example.

We need to examine the minutiae of each incident to establish how they are linked and how they are not. Only with understanding and acknowledgemt may we create change.

The '...but what about...?' Trumpian technique of deflection does not lead to solutions, just antagonism.

We need to actively listen to each other first and foremost.

Derek Chauvin...

Thankyou, Ozzy.

A balance is required to progress and we should be mindful of that when evaluating the sentence that is eventually meted out.

Too low and Chauvin's accountabilty is undermined; to high and society's and our personal responsibility to evolve is subverted.

We all need to grow up. We must not forget that.

Derek Chauvin...

Courtney Ross, George Floyd's girlfriend:

“Thank God for giving us this moment,” Ross says outside the Minneapolis courthouse where a judge recently revealed Derek Chauvin’s conviction. “We needed it. This city needed it.”

“His spirit is here with you all,” she remarks of Floyd.

“It’s a moment to celebrate,” she says to the crowd.“Take tonight just to be glad that we have one day of victory. This battle is going to continue.”

“Floyd was one man,” she says. “George Floyd is a movement.”

“Put your arms around somebody today,” she adds. “Can we just all love each other for a moment?”

Derek Chauvin...

It's not justice, but it is accountability.

I have no desire to see a Draconian sentence passed as that, to my mind, is vengeance.

The salient feature of this guilty verdict is that the act has been officially and publicly deemed unacceptable.

Justice is equality and fairness. This verdict is an important stepping stone towards justice, but there is a long way to go yet.

RE: Love at First Sight

I read as far as...

...and thought, "I bet she's fallen in love with dogs at first sight as I have."

rolling on the floor laughing

Dogs are easier to trust, but there is an explanation for that 'eyes meeting across the room' thing we do with humans, too.

It's all about picking up on body language cues which inform us about that person, even cues which go back to our experiences in our formative years.

It can happen over the internet (with humans and dogs), but we have less body language information with photos than we do with face to face observation.

RE: I went to look at a room today!

Will your travel costs be reduced and balance out the increase in rent?

RE: Connecting Singles worked for me.

He's just liked me, the muppet. talk to hand

At least the vaccine is definitely going to kill you just the once. giggle

RE: Connecting Singles worked for me.

I read this story of yours before.

I moved 14 months ago and I'm pretty sure it was long before then.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I read this story of your wife dying last year when I was living in the house before last that I shared with my daughter and granddaughter, so your wife died last year at least three and a half years ago, too.

I'd offer my condolences, but I think your wife had the rough end of the stick in this relationship.

RE: Free Iguana gets Spendy

Green iguana's are an invasive species in Florida with a $5-6 price on their heads for each one killed.

You taught your son to rescue and adopt stray animals. laugh

RE: Compare What's Seen & Heard In These Three Vids ...

Btw, I heard something on the video which is a little confusing given I'm hearing impaired.

If the video has been edited to remove an expletive, perhaps just a snippet of the gun fire sound has been left on the video you posted.

I don't expect to hear all noise. I expect to navigate according to the bits I can hear. I routinely attend to every little bit I can hear.

Maybe that's why I picked up on it, or maybe the noise was something else. dunno

RE: Hi! I got the vaccine yesterday, and...

I'll let you know if my daughter agrees with you, but I think she's going to prefer the bramble gin and proseco to mix it with that I also left in the fridge. laugh

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