Without receiving any teachings why would you? Unless you're one of those rare human beings that has experienced a spontaneous awakening. Why would you suddenly believe that all you had come to take for granted was just an illusion, even if someone told you so? But, once that door has opened and you've stepped through, things will never be quite the same.
Thanks for those links Al, I'll have a look at them.
Just a little quote on emptiness may show why it's futile to try to explain something that has no explanation, it's the Umanisfested...beyond words....
"To recognize emptiness as conventional is to thoroughly refute inherent existence and to underscore the recognition that emptiness is the emptiness of conventional phenomena, nothing more substantive than that. This insight undermines a contradictory and dualistic reality where emptiness is totally real, while the conventional is totally unreal. Nagarjuna’s doctrine negates ultimate truth as an independent base from which to assert an objective, non-empty view. All views can only be conventionally true.
~“Therefore it is said that whoever makes a philosophical view out of emptiness is indeed lost.” Nagarjuna
There is a complete difference between a belief and a truth. There's also a complete difference between conventional truth and ultimate truth.
Conventional truth is how we see the world, we use it all the time to navigate our way through life. As long as our senses are in order, we know that fire burns, birds fly and pigs don't. Conventional truth is agreed on and isn't denied but confirmed by valid cognition. Ultimate truth will assert that nothing exists independently from it's own side, there is no one 'thing' that sits alone, that is not dependent on another thing. This includes the 'Self,' and certainly includes consciousness. Nothing can exist from it's own side only. These are truths that are beyond words and as BB says, for most of us can only become aware of through meditation, not through learning, but through 'unlearning.' The real truth is the truth of 'emptiness.' Once emptiness is realised the need to find the truth no longer exists....
"Whatever is dependently co-arisen That is explained to be emptiness. That being a dependent designation, Is itself the middle way.
Something that is not dependently arisen, Such a thing does not exist. Therefore a non-empty thing Does not exist.”
Of course you lose your way. The very nature of the 'Manifest' is to appear only to the observer from their perspective at any given time. It exists only in the mind of the observer and is almost always interpreted with symbols which we call language, even if that is just in thought, a simulation as you put it perhaps. Why would we give notice to the Unmanifest with our journey clearly laid out with such clarity and certainty. Consciouness is what we see, think and feel, that's the mantra. "I think therefore I am." How could Descartes get it so wrong......
Prefer to be in awe of the Unmanifested, should It appear. (Or manifest.)
"Presence is pure consciouness, consciousness that has been reclaimed from the mind, from the world of form. The inner body is your link with the Umanifested, and in it's deepest aspect is the Unmanifested: the Source from which consciouness emanates as light emanates from the sun. Awareness of the inner body is consciouness remembering it's origin and returning to the Source."
Over here you cant beat a Wetherspoons breakfast for value and choice....
Wetherspoons Breakfast Menu Menu Items Price
Large breakfast Two fried eggs, baked beans, three hash browns, two slices of toast, bacon, two sausages, mushroom, and Lurpak spreadable £5.85
Traditional breakfast Fried egg, bacon, sausage, two hash browns, a slice of toast, baked beans, and Lurpak spreadable £4.45
Small breakfast Baked beans, bacon, hash brown, fried egg, and sausage £4.05
Large vegetarian breakfast Two fried eggs, mushroom, tomato, two slices of toast, three hash browns, three Quorn sausages, baked beans, and Lurpak spreadable £5.85
Vegetarian breakfast Two fried eggs, mushroom, tomato, a slice of toast, two hash browns, two Quorn sausages, baked beans, and Lurpak spreadable £4.45
Small vegetarian breakfast Fried egg, tomato, hash brown, and Quorn sausage, baked beans £4.05
Vegan breakfast Two Quorn sausages, two hash browns, mushroom, tomato baked beans, a slice of toast, vegan spread, baked beans, and two hash browns £4.20
Freedom breakfast Two fried eggs, mushroom bacon, tomato, and baked beans £4.05
Eggs Benedict Two poached eggs, English muffin, Wiltshire cured ham, Hollandaise sauce, and rocket £4.55
Mushroom Benedict Two poached eggs, mushroom, Hollandaise sauce, English muffin, and rocket £4.55
Scrambled egg on toast Three eggs, white bloomer bread, and Country Life spreadable £3.35
Beans on toast White bloomer bread and Country Life spreadable £2.85
Small beans on toast White bloomer bread and Country Life spreadable £1.85
Two slices of toast with jam or marmalade White bloomer bread and Lurpak spreadable £1.99
MOMA Porridge with banana – £1.99
MOMA Porridge with honey – £1.99
MOMA Porridge with banana and honey – £2.29
Add two slices of black pudding (with any items) – £1.00
Muffins Menu Items Price
Egg & cheese muffin American-style cheese, Fried egg, and an English muffin £2.75
Egg & bacon muffin Bacon, American-style cheese, fried egg, and an English muffin £3.15
Egg & sausage muffin American-style cheese, fried egg, sausage, and an English muffin £3.15
Egg & Quorn™ sausage muffin American-style cheese, Fried egg, Quorn sausage, and an English muffin £3.15
Breakfast muffin American-style cheese, Fried egg, sausage, bacon, and an English muffin £3.35
Add a hash brown (with any items) – 30p
Butties and Wraps Menu Items Price
Bacon butty Three rashers of bacon, Country Life spreadable, and white bloomer bread £3.35
Sausage butty Two sausages, Country Life spreadable, and white bloomer bread £3.35
Quorn™ sausage butty Two Quorn sausages, Country Life spreadable, and white bloomer bread £3.35
Breakfast wrap Fried egg, bacon, Cheddar cheese, sausage, and hash brown £3.85
Vegetarian breakfast wrap Fried egg, Cheddar cheese, two Quorn sausages, and two hash browns £3.85
Breakfast Sides, Drinks, and Biscuits Price
Breakfast Sides
Two slices of black pudding £1.00 Two rashers of bacon £1.05 Sausage 65p Two scrambled eggs £1.20 Quorn sausage 65p Baked beans 60p Fried egg £65p Two grilled tomato halves 35p Hash brown 30p Slice of toast, Lurpak spreadable 85p Two mushrooms 60p
Drinks (Free Refills)
Flat white £1.20 Cappuccino £1.20 Latte £1.20 Mocha £1.20 Espresso £1.20 Black coffee £1.20 White coffee £1.20 Hot chocolate £1.20 Tea £1.20
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RE: Have you ever experienced a Manifestation?
Without receiving any teachings why would you? Unless you're one of those rare human beings that has experienced a spontaneous awakening.Why would you suddenly believe that all you had come to take for granted was just an illusion, even if someone told you so?
But, once that door has opened and you've stepped through, things will never be quite the same.