Virgo from what I have read here, it seems that western women would be willing to be gracious to western men if they felt that their affections would be reciprocated. At their core I think ALL women want to feel cherished and appreciated(whether western or not) same as men. JMO
In an honest relationship people do for each other mutually out of love. In terms of the gold digger they do what they have to to get what they want. Whether that means catering to a man and telling him what he wants to hear or bending over backwards when other women won't. They trick the man into believing he is getting a better deal when all they are after is material stuff or a passport.
Ah, so you both mutually look after each other. I could probably see some Western women enjoying doing these things too and enjoy having her affections reciprocated? However,that word you used "unconditonal" ... are you saying if you ever stopped treating her properly she would still do all this for you?
I think a lot of men are also just attracted to the 'exotic and mysterious'. Something different from what they see at home. Again this is just speculation, but I also think that in the back of their minds some men would prefer someone that reminds them of their mother(if she was the stay at home type that catered to their father and her children). Not that anything is wrong with that - if that is what the woman wants to do. Perhaps some even feel marginalized, since the traditional roles of women have changed and these men feel disoriented as to their place in this new order of things.
So does not taking crap make a woman appear less feminine? I wonder if its so much about the type of woman or about the type of man that wants such a woman. Are they saying Western women don't make them feel like real men, that they feel they are being taken for granted?
Maybe its me but aren't there gentle, meek, feminine,house work doers among Western Women as well? Or is it the won't take crap part that really gets to men?
Not for the first time I have seen threads and post from men complaining about the 'Western Woman'. I have to admit that I have no idea why they would be having problems. I could speculate:
Is it they way they have been brought up? Is it that they don't usally put up with much crap?(my own observation)
I could go on, but I would much rather hear it from men themselves, as I am sure it could be quite enlightening. Do they find that they also face these same problems with Asian or African women? Or are there these problems with women in general?
As we have seen from so many examples in history, that standing up often means putting your life and sometimes your family's life at risk to do what is right.
Even though these events happened in the past e.g. Holocaust, I wonder how much differently we would have handled these same situations had they occured now in modern times? Many say never again but there are so many examples of this same inhumanity towards others still going on today.
If I had not found a partner I wouldn't waste one minute of the little time I had left worrying about that. I would want to be looking back at a full life and knowing that I had given my best to the one person I am most certain was meant for me and that's my daughter.
Exactly, it is not the fault of the illegals continuing to be there if your own people are busy sabotaging the legal process for their own benefit. Every time they take advantage of the system by hiring them they are enabling this type of system. I understand the anger at the Mexican because you feel he has broken the law - which is true if he is there illegally but it is a sad state of affairs. The true target for the anger really should be those American aiding and abetting this system.
Then if they are doing so well why not offer better wages? That way you can attract you own people. Whether alien or American all want a decent wage they can live with. If the American feels the wage is not enough or the work is beneath him... well you see the results, he will not want to do the jobs. So what's left? You cart away the illegal Mexican because he has broken the law, fine, but who does THE WORK THEN? That's what I want to know. Who picks the crops? It's not that hard a solution you know. If you are tired of them being there illegally then put them out of jobs by doing it yourselves - but then we are back to square one if you are not finding enough of your own people willing to do the work.
But why don't the welfare crowd want to work? Clearly these jobs are available but how many of them are willing to go do them for the pay that the Mexican is accepting. I would have thought it would have been the American thing to do to support fellow Americans with jobs. However if your fellow Americans are refusing to do the jobs(cause if they did there would be no jobs for the Mexicans)then how does the work get done? Someone has to do it. Can you force your people to do jobs they don't like? would they happily do the jobs or be very disgruntled that you were forcing them? If you want the Mexicans out then more Americans need to be willing to do the jobs or find easier ways for the Mexicans to become legalized.
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WHAT'S WRONG WITH WESTERN WOMEN?
It would be interesting to hear from Asian women what they think of western men.