Oh, what a tangled web Republicans have weaved.
It turns out, that Devin Nunes, who is supposed to be investigating Trump for his trying to influence Ukraine to investigate the Bidens, himself went to the Ukraine in an effort to try to get 'dirt' on Biden.From CNN;
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Exclusive: Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden
CNN NY Vicky Ward
A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine. Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.
"Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December," said Bondy.
Shokin was ousted from his position in 2016 after pressure from Western leaders, including then-vice president Biden, over concerns that Shokin was not pursuing corruption cases.
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office
Nunes is one of President Donald Trump's key allies in Congress and has emerged as a staunch defender of the President during the impeachment inquiry, which he has frequently labeled as a "circus." Nunes declined repeated requests for comment.
After the story published, Nunes disputed CNN's report, telling far-right website Breitbart that it was "demonstrably false."
Giuliani made an appearance on Fox News on Saturday and, when asked about the CNN report, said he had no reason to doubt Nunes.
Bondy told CNN that his client and Nunes began communicating around the time of the Vienna trip. Parnas says he worked to put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help Nunes dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine, according to Bondy.
That information would likely be of great interest to House Democrats given its overlap with the current impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and could put Nunes in a difficult spot.
Bondy told CNN his client is willing to comply with a Congressional subpoena for documents and testimony as part of the impeachment inquiry in a manner that would allow him to protect his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.
Bondy suggested in a tweet on Friday that he was already speaking to House Intel though the committee declined to comment.
Giuliani has told CNN previously about his conversations with Shokin and ?Parnas, saying that this was part of his legal work for his client, President Trump. Parnas' claims about Nunes' alleged involvement offers a new wrinkle and for the first time suggests the efforts to dig up dirt on the Bidens involved a member of Congress.
Parnas' claim that Nunes met with Shokin, which had not been previously reported, adds further context to a Daily Beast report that Parnas?helped arrange meetings and calls in Europe for Nunes last year, citing another Parnas' lawyer, Ed MacMahon.
Those revelations came to a head on Thursday when Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell raised the Daily Beast story publicly during the impeachment hearing......
Exclusive: Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden
CNN NY Vicky Ward
A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani told CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden.
The attorney, Joseph A. Bondy, represents Lev Parnas, the recently indicted Soviet-born American who worked with Giuliani to push claims of Democratic corruption in Ukraine. Bondy said that Parnas was told directly by the former Ukrainian official that he met last year in Vienna with Rep. Devin Nunes.
"Mr. Parnas learned from former Ukrainian Prosecutor General Victor Shokin that Nunes had met with Shokin in Vienna last December," said Bondy.
Shokin was ousted from his position in 2016 after pressure from Western leaders, including then-vice president Biden, over concerns that Shokin was not pursuing corruption cases.
Republican senators echoed Biden in urging Ukrainian president to reform prosecutor general's office
Nunes is one of President Donald Trump's key allies in Congress and has emerged as a staunch defender of the President during the impeachment inquiry, which he has frequently labeled as a "circus." Nunes declined repeated requests for comment.
After the story published, Nunes disputed CNN's report, telling far-right website Breitbart that it was "demonstrably false."
Giuliani made an appearance on Fox News on Saturday and, when asked about the CNN report, said he had no reason to doubt Nunes.
Bondy told CNN that his client and Nunes began communicating around the time of the Vienna trip. Parnas says he worked to put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help Nunes dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine, according to Bondy.
That information would likely be of great interest to House Democrats given its overlap with the current impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and could put Nunes in a difficult spot.
Bondy told CNN his client is willing to comply with a Congressional subpoena for documents and testimony as part of the impeachment inquiry in a manner that would allow him to protect his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination.
Bondy suggested in a tweet on Friday that he was already speaking to House Intel though the committee declined to comment.
Giuliani has told CNN previously about his conversations with Shokin and ?Parnas, saying that this was part of his legal work for his client, President Trump. Parnas' claims about Nunes' alleged involvement offers a new wrinkle and for the first time suggests the efforts to dig up dirt on the Bidens involved a member of Congress.
Parnas' claim that Nunes met with Shokin, which had not been previously reported, adds further context to a Daily Beast report that Parnas?helped arrange meetings and calls in Europe for Nunes last year, citing another Parnas' lawyer, Ed MacMahon.
Those revelations came to a head on Thursday when Democratic Rep. Eric Swalwell raised the Daily Beast story publicly during the impeachment hearing......
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I'll answer that.....you really don't have anything. The persecution of an innocent person is a lowly thing for a person to do....especially for 4 years!
Good answers guys..............
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There's an expense report linking him to the meeting.
Nunes is taking them to court for fake and malicious reporting
"I think CNN has a much bigger legal budget than you do and will laugh their assess off when you commence a frivolous, groundless and vexatious law suit. The court certainly won't be happy with you wasting everyone's time and resources."
Sure, he wants to make it look like he's innocent. But, lets see the results.
So far, he hasn't even denied it, and refuses to answer direct questions about it.
Woven.
Oh, what a tangled web Republicans have WOVEN!!
Where,s your interlect.
There all currupt on both sides.
Money talks ,power currupts.
Wake up mate.
I'm all for eliminating it.
embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party .
How hypocritical ! Trump is by far the most prolific liar in US presidential history.
No matter how many times the Republicans investigate Hillary, they keep coming up empty.
Yeah, they hate her. But inventing things and harping on non-consequential things does not make her anywhere near as bad a candidate as Trump. Unlike Trump, she has not broken any laws.
While not my candidate of choice (Bernie was), Hillary would have made a FAR better president than Trump, OFFICIALLY the worst US president in history.
Many people believe lies like that, told to them.
They do not have the education to learn how to properly research things told to them.
To fact check.
Thus, many believe what they want or fear to believe, rather than what the truth is,
And with the help of Russia and the GOP, we ended up with THE worst US president in history,
who continually lies.
Keep up your good threads Jim, the truth will out! M. will have a seizure over my grammar though.
It seems that some people simply prefer to evade the truth with feeble attempts at misdirection,
or to post more lies, rather than admit the truth.
He persistently argues, that woven is the word I should have used.
However, while either word would have probably sufficed, I intentionally
chose the word weaved for 3 reasons.
#1. The title was a play off of "Of what a tangled web we weave, when we deceive."
Adding only a d to the end of weave, made the least change in the original statement.
#2. Since we are not talking about fabric, which can be made rather artisticly, weaved is the more proper term.
#3.I remind all, that this is MY blog and I'll title it, however, I see fit.
Which is worse the illegal dirt or the people illegally looking for it?
Indeed, no one even suggests that either of the Bidens did anything wrong within the USA.
The suggestion is, that Biden's son worked for a Ukrainian company where the owner was corrupt.
Thus, Hunter Biden might have done corrupt things.It's a stretch.
They don't know what, and they don't know if he did.
But, the suggestion of it, harms the father somewhat. That is why Trump was more
pushing the announcement of an investigation by the Ukrainian president, than he was any actual investigation itself. As Sondland stated, Trump didn't give a fu.. about Ukraine.
There is lots of evidence that Trump did something wrong within the USA and more evidence keeps coming out..
So, one should follow where the evidence leads.
Congressman Devin Nunes faces discipline over calls to Giuliani and associate
By Kate Irby and Emma Dumain, Tribune News Service
WASHINGTON —
A top House Democrat told reporters Wednesday that his party could explore disciplining Rep. Devin Nunes over the California Republican's involvement with officials who now are at the center of President Donald Trump's impeachment.
ep. Steny Hoyer, the No. 2 Democrat in the House of Representatives, said he would talk to members about the potential for disciplining Nunes after Democrats released phone records showing that Nunes was in contact with Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani and one of Giuliani's now-indicted associates who allegedly pressed for the removal of the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
Giuliani and his associate Lev Parnas are central figures in the impeachment inquiry who allegedly worked outside of formal diplomatic channels to advance Trump's political interests.
Nunes' phone calls with them were disclosed in the House Intelligence Committee's impeachment report, in which Democrats argue that Trump improperly pressured Ukraine to announce investigations that would benefit him politically.
"I think there are serious questions that have been raised by Mr. Nunes' actions," Hoyer said. "What actions ought to be taken, if any, I want to have input from other people before I opine about what ought to be done."
He clarified "I will be doing that" when asked what the status was, implying he had not yet begun these conversations.
Hoyer's comments echo recent remarks from other senior-ranking Democrats who've called for inquiries into Nunes' reported connections with Parnas, who was indicted by federal prosecutors in October and charged with campaign finance violations. Prosecutors also allege that Parnas lobbied a congressman to remove former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.
House Armed Services Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., last month said it was "quite likely" that Nunes would face an ethics inquiry. Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif., also wanted an investigation into a report that Nunes sought to set up a meeting with Ukrainian officials.
Two Intelligence Committee Democrats, Reps. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif., and Mike Quigley, D-Illinois, said the decision was better left to House leadership or the House Ethics Committee while they were focused on impeachment.
The second-highest Republican on Intelligence, Rep. Mike Conaway, R-Texas, said he had "no comment" when asked about Hoyer's comments by McClatchy.
Parnas has said through attorneys that he is willing to testify before Congress that he was organizing meetings in Ukraine at Nunes' request to generate information that would help Trump's reelection campaign.
Nunes, according to the phone records, had at least three phone calls with Giuliani on April 10, in addition to two calls with Parnas on April 12, which was around the time when a series of opinion articles by conservative journalist John Solomon raised questions about Yovanovitch and ultimately led to her removal. [
One of Nunes' calls with Parnas lasted eight minutes, according to the impeachment report.
On social media, some people shared video of Nunes' explaination of the calls.
Giuliani also called a member of Nunes' staff, Derek Harvey, on May 8, and a former Nunes staffer, Kashyap "Kash" Patel, who now works on the National Security Council.
Indeed, it's one of the reasons I do not register with either party.
However, if you compare the records;
We know that unfortunately Trump's reign is not over yet.
However, there were several indictments and jail terms with more to come.
Trump has also blown away records for lying in office.
So, it's relative.