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BREAKING NEWS
Most of the recently dead were in the South and unvaccinated, and there were more younger victims than any other point in the pandemic.
Friday, October 1, 2021 6:39 PM EST
An overwhelming majority of Americans who have died in recent months were unvaccinated. The United States has had one of the highest recent death rates of any country with an ample supply of vaccines.
The coronavirus pandemic has become the deadliest in American history, overtaking the toll from the influenza pandemic of 1918 and 1919, which killed about 675,000 people.
BREAKING NEWS
Most of the recently dead were in the South and unvaccinated, and there were more younger victims than any other point in the pandemic.
Friday, October 1, 2021 6:39 PM EST
An overwhelming majority of Americans who have died in recent months were unvaccinated. The United States has had one of the highest recent death rates of any country with an ample supply of vaccines.
The coronavirus pandemic has become the deadliest in American history, overtaking the toll from the influenza pandemic of 1918 and 1919, which killed about 675,000 people.
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Breaking news Merck Industries have developed a pill to fight off the infected and ill.
That's great news. However, don't think it's a cure all.
One more year? Guess we will see.
Covid will TIE Spanish Flu when Covid Deaths hit 'bout 2.2 MILLION.
Put another way -
If we use the population of Entire US of 1920
And limit the 2020 "United States" population to California, Texas, Florida & New York ...
Per Capita Spanish Flu & Covid Deaths would be roughly Similar.
699,000 deaths IS Significant - But let's stay Reality-Based.
For future reference - RE-Acknowledged ...
In many cases, The Jabs Reduce or Eliminate the Severity of Symptoms.
Fewer Deaths would logically be Expected.
Covid will Catch Up to Spanish Flu 'bout July, '24.
'Publicans will hang it on Ol' King Joe failing to keep his promise to Manage Covid.
Manage A Virus ...
Might as well've promised he was gonna Herd Cats ...
699,000 deaths IS Significant - But let's stay Reality-Based.
In reality 669,000 US deaths is a heck of a lot of deaths, more than any other US tragedy and this pandemic isn't even over yet.
In reality no one says that 911 wasn't that bad, because most of the people in the US lived. Tragedies are measured by how many people died, not what percentage of the population died. This is yet another lame attempt by you to minimize reality.
Tell all the families that lost loved ones, that their loss is not reality.
The sole person living on an island dying is tragic. But despite that person being 100% of the population there, their death is not more tragic that 669,000 people dying elsewhere.
The numbers of the vaccinated in America is not high enough, it's over 50% but nowhere near the 92% in Ireland. That's why the spread of misinformation is so despicable.
Covid Delta is Highly contagious & spreads most Efficiently in closed spaces.
Southerners were staying inside to avoid Summer heat.
It might be expected the higher case numbers will move Northward as cooler Fall temps drive folks indoors ...
You're Immunized if you've had Covid.
If Not, you can Catch it & Spread it ...
It's Quite Possible I was infected by an Asymptomatic Jabbed friend.
The Good News - We Both now have Genuine IMMUNITY ...
Ergo - MUCH(!!!) reduced chance of Ever again Catching it, hence Spreading it.
If one wants Immunity, one should use the window of opportunity provided by The Jab to Get Covid with Mild Symptoms.
If Not - Repeat the Jab every 4 - 8 months (depending on Jab brand) 'til one catches Covid & passes through the "unwitting" Secret Spreader Monkey phase.
Given the current Jab technology - Acquiring Covid Immunity MUST Include HAVING Covid.
It appears that the vaccinated are NOT "superspreaders" as he suggested previously.
Indeed, researchers in the UK did contract tracing to discover who patients got the disease from. They discovered that it was less likely from the vaccinated, even from those with breakthrough infections.
From NBC News yesterday;
Vaccinated people are less likely to spread Covid, new research finds
British scientists examined how the Pfizer-BioNTech and the AstraZeneca vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection.
Oct. 1, 2021, 4:39 PM EDT
By Akshay Syal, MD
People who are vaccinated against Covid-19 are less likely to spread the virus even if they become infected, a new study finds, adding to a growing body of evidence that vaccines can reduce transmission of the delta variant.
British scientists at the University of Oxford examined national records of nearly 150,000 contacts that were traced from roughly 100,000 initial cases. The samples included people who were fully or partially vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech or the AstraZeneca vaccines, as well as people who were unvaccinated. The researchers then looked at how the vaccines affected the spread of the virus if a person had a breakthrough infection with either the alpha variant or the highly contagious delta variant.
Both vaccines reduced transmission, although they were more effective against the alpha variant compared to the delta variant. When infected with the delta variant, a given contact was 65 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. With AstraZeneca, a given contact was 36 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated.
The risk of transmission from a breakthrough infection was much higher if someone had received just dose of either vaccine.
The study was posted online Thursday and hasn’t yet been peer reviewed. But scientists not associated with the research said the findings were credible.
“It’s the highest quality study we have so far on the question of infectiousness of vaccinated people infected with delta,” said Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious disease physician at the University of Pennsylvania, who was not involved in the research.
Susan Butler-Wu, a clinical microbiologist at the University of Southern California, called the study “well performed,” especially because it reflects real-world transmission since it tracked spread among close contacts.
Using cycle threshold (Ct) values, the researchers found a similar level of viral load in unvaccinated and vaccinated people who were infected with the delta variant, backing up prior studies. Even so, people who were fully vaccinated were still less likely to infect others.
“Transmission is much more complex,” Butler-Wu said, meaning the Ct value is just a snapshot in time and doesn’t reflect the entire course of illness.
It's likely that people who have been vaccinated clear the infectious virus from the body faster. A previous study from Singapore had found that although levels of the virus were initially the same in those infected with the delta variant regardless of vaccine status, by day seven, levels of the virus dropped quickly in those who were vaccinated, which may reduce the ability to spread illness.
There is emerging evidence that even though cycle threshold values may be the same regardless of vaccination status, people who are vaccinated may have less infectious virus in their bodies, potentially reducing transmission.
... the Delta variant was more infectious and was leading to increased transmissibility when compared with other variants, even in some vaccinated individuals.
When infected with the delta variant, a given contact was 65 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. With AstraZeneca, a given contact was 36 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated.
UnJabbed - A certain rate of Transmission.
Jabbed - A 36-65% (let's say, 'bout 1/2) reduction in rate of Transmission.
IMMUNITY - Near ZERO Transmission.
Apparently Mic understands the difference between 1/2 & 0
The Jabs Reduce the Severity Of Symptoms for a period of 4 -8 months -
That's ALL they Reliably DO - Especially with Delta -
Which now accounts for close to All US Infections
The Jabs may SLOooow the rate of infection - They CanNot STOP it.
The JABBED can Get Covid - The JABBED can Spread Covid.
The IMMUNE Have a near ZERO Chance of doing Either -
Possibly for the Rest of Their Lives ...
although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer.
change the situation. Also, realize that antibodies are only part of the immune response.
This is why vaccines are updated to include antigens (or now mRNA coding for the antigens) carried by the newer variants. This is done annually for the flu and will likely be done for Covid-19.
P.S. You chances of dying from getting infected with the virus are far greater than your chances of dying from the vaccine, unless you have a history of anaphylactic shock AND don't have an epipen available with someone who knows how to use it at the time of vaccination.
An overwhelming majority of Americans who have died in recent months were unvaccinated.
Nor have an Overwhelming majority of Americans with Covid died.
I KNOW that's Not what's being said, so Spare me.
An Overwhelming majority of Less than 5% means More'n 95% SURVIVE -
Jab or No Jab
But that kinda Wording can Wrongly give those impressions.
How 'bout y'all Liberals ...
Spare me.
Vaccination reduces infecting others and reduces the chance of dying should you suffer a breakthrough which is also very rare,
Point proven, case closed, let's move on to more interesting subjects
Whether one obtains immunity by vaccination ...
That's ALL that they Reliably DO. Especially as regards Delta.
They CanNot produce Immunity.
Why do KNOW This?
Because we're discussing the INFECTED Jabbed Spreading the disease at What % of the rate of the UnJabbed.
IMMUNIZED folks can Mingle with the infected (without masks, even) with Near ZERO Chance of Catching, hence Spreading the disease to which They're (this is the important part) IMMUNE.
We've been Over this previously, have we Not ...
But it was Published July 21 & the data were gathered before Then -
Before the Delta Surge hit Wisconsin.
The Info's Useful -
The difference in numbers (especially Infection) are likely not as wide since Delta.
The mRNA Jabs (Pfizer & Moderna) and Adenovirus Jabs (J&J & A-Z) Reduce the Severity Of SYMPTOMS.
That's ALL that they Reliably DO.
It is attacked more quickly upon entering the body.
This has become Circular & Repetitious
1. don't understand
2. are not making any effort to understand
and 3. seem bored with the discussion;
please stop commenting. I am bored with your weird , stubborness,
and incorrect assumptions.
we don't and never did have control. it will continue it's mutations and we'll still never know if it's something the agencies did to keep pushing something that has thousands of mutations and continues to change.
just like the flu in the early 1900's. it killed tens of millions in just a couple of years or so. they didn't make it go away. enough of the population with immunity made it less deadly. they did finally come up with vaccines. real vaccines that generally don't induce the spread and actually help the body fight. people still die in spite of it.
if a person is admitted to a hospital for cardio problems and dies from it; do they label it a flu death if they test positive for it?
they don't know. they never did. they're doing what they can which is fishing in the dark for something to make them feel like they have a handle on it.
Do you know anyone with smallpox ?
This is not taking shots in the dark. The mechanisms are well understood.
Yes, the virus does mutate, as do most viruses.
This is why vaccines, like the flu vaccine are updated annually.
The key is to keep the pool of unvaccinated down,
so that it does not have such a large number of people to mutate within.
The virus does not replicate without a biological host.
The more hosts, the more mutations.
how would we know it wasn't a problem they had a valve or something
too many deaths already labeled covid that weren't the cause.
the uptick in cases is going to come from many in hospitals where that wasn't even the reason they're admitted in the first place. mandatory testing by-product.
no matter 1 shot or two, with in a certain time frame, they're still unvaccinated.
there is no longer anything to trust when every thing is covid. they never kept accurate numbers from the start.
year two, and it still doesn't equal a pandemic as much as it does politics and control.
hundreds of millions of tests before and after death. how many millions are more like this higher profile botch?
Sum times eYe crack myself Up...
The blogs are going to suffer...
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