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Must be the last place on earth I'd go as an enemy of the Russians.
With the back to the swampland/river.
I suppose you are familiar with the Russian tactic of pulling back-
letting them into a pocket, stay at a safe distance and just bombard them.
I think the war is over.
Source: Zelensky's interview with the Brazilian broadcaster Globo
Direct speech: "Is it adequate that a person is shooting at the ports? Let's just talk about it. He (Putin - ed.) cannot occupy these ports. That is, it is not military action. It is not even about war. That is, he cannot land in our ports. It's impossible. He doesn't have the capacity. We'll just sink his whole fleet if he comes close to us. And he knows it very well and is on his way."
"That is, it is not a military target. He is shooting at Odessa, at the ports and at the historical center... And here you have to answer the question "for what?". This is not about grain. (This is ed.) terrorism, terrorist act, terrorizing people...".
Details: Zelensky emphasized that Putin is an inadequate person and much of the world is also moving towards this understanding.
Source: Zelensky's interview with the Brazilian broadcaster Globo
Direct speech: "Is it adequate that a person is shooting at the ports? Let's just talk about it. He (Putin - ed.) cannot occupy these ports. That is, it is not military action. It is not even about war. That is, he cannot land in our ports. It's impossible. He doesn't have the capacity. We'll just sink his whole fleet if he comes close to us. And he knows it very well and is on his way."
"That is, it is not a military target. He is shooting at Odessa, at the ports and at the historical center... And here you have to answer the question "for what?". This is not about grain. (This is ed.) terrorism, terrorist act, terrorizing people...".
Details: Zelensky emphasized that Putin is an inadequate person and much of the world is also moving towards this understanding.
Must be the last place on earth I'd go as an enemy of the Russians.
With the back to the swampland/river.
I suppose you are familiar with the Russian tactic of pulling back-
letting them into a pocket, stay at a safe distance and just bombard them.
I think the war is over.
In typical Russian military brilliance Russia replaced the VDV troops who were holding that area with poorly trained conscripts. A few cluster shells on their line and they abandoned their positions and ran away (some fun to watch videos of it are on Telegram, both drone and cell phone filmed). Much of the Russian artillery covering that area was itself targeted and those units no longer exist. Then Ukraine moved into the abandoned positions.
As you anticipated Russia did send relief forces in, but Ukraine's attack was well p-anned and an ambush was in place. Although some were killed outright many of the Russians surrendered enmass. Much useful information was gathered from their cell phones, including that of the Major commanding the relief column. We should expect those Russians captured to volunteer more information as interviews progress. More Ukrainians had arrived as of this morning and the area under Ukraine's control expands.
Russian morons actually believed the war was about the worthless salt mines of Bakhmut.
Name of villages, area.
Where are they headed too, where can we expect the advances next?
I'll take a look at google maps if you just tell me the latest wins for the Ukrainians.
Name of villages, area.
Where are they headed too, where can we expect the advances next?
I'll take a look at google maps if you just tell me the latest wins for the Ukrainians.
The reports are that there are not many capable fighting men left in the Ukraine, the Ukrainians have recruiting boys and disabled men for some time now;;
Basically any eastern european guy is quiet man to be reconed with.
Used to manual labour often and in general pretty stirdy folks.
Problem is, Russia is close to unbeatable once dug in like this.
Kiev is showering manpower at this,
wasting away young lives.
except of looking pretty admirable when rolling into the minefields..
Name of villages, area.
Where are they headed too, where can we expect the advances next?
I'll take a look at google maps if you just tell me the latest wins for the Ukrainians.
Poland should raise the cost issue to NATO even if they don't get compensation, high lighting the real problem is more important than the cost..
I just have a feeling it's another blood spree sent from Kiev, with unbelievably
waste of human lives for hardly nothing. Worst cost for advanceing Ukrainians as the Russki just fall back some. But let's see.
Ken, answer me this: do you really think this can be won by Ukraine + friends
on the battleground with no dirty tricks?
Only... the costs are high as u say.
There is something completly wrong about polish solldiers at the front.
Little I can do from over here.
This whole war is so senseless! Just split the damn country!
It will be for the last time.
In a written order on Thursday, Andrey Kanashevich, acting head of the Kupiansk military administration, published a list of 37 settlements near the combat zone that were to be evacuated by local residents. He cited “constant artillery attacks and the security situation” as the reason for the decision, adding that the order also applies to the city of Kupiansk itself.
Since 9 January 2018, Blaszczak has been the Minister of National Defence of Poland. On 22 June 2022 President Andrzej Duda nominated Blaszczak to succeed Jaroslaw Kaczynski as the Deputy Prime Minister of Poland. Poland is moving its forces to scare Belarus, defense chief Mariusz Blaszczak has said
Speaking to national public broadcaster Polskie Radio, Blaszczak stated that “we are moving the army closer to the border with Belarus” in order to “scare the aggressor so that he does not dare to attack us.” The minister added that security in the region would be underpinned by 10,000 soldiers, with 4,000 assigned to directly support the Border Guard, and another 6,000 held in reserve.
Blaszczak’s comments also come after Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu announced on Wednesday that Moscow would bolster its troops on its western borders amid a stand-off over the Ukraine conflict. In his speech, he described Poland as a “key instrument of anti-Russia policies of the US.” He also claimed that Warsaw is actively trying to build up “the most powerful army” in Europe, which, according to Polish officials, now numbers around 170,000 service members.
Well other than volunteers who join Ukraine's foreign legion I am not sure who you mean when you say Ukraine and friends. We agree if provoked enough Poland may turn Belarus into rubble, but that has nothing to do with Ukraine. Regarding Ukraine winning the war without dirty tricks, whose rule book of how a war is to be fought are you reading? Throw it out. It is a comic book. As the saying does, all is fair in love and war. Russia found it fair to hell maternity hospitals and grain warehouses, and as we saw yesterday and today, in Moscow (and elsewhere in Russia) things are suddenly going boom and burning quite nicely. Russia reports the optical gun sight factory that exploded yesterday in the Moscow suburbs had someone careless with a cigarette smoking near some stored fireworks set aside for celebrations. Those videos on Telegram of stored artillery shells blown out of the factory building well that is just an optical illusion. Those fireworks just look like artillery shells. The multiple explosions at the Moscow airport this morning, the burning bomber,, the huge fire, well that was just someone smoking carelessly. Fact is Russia has had more explosions this year than in the past 10 years combined. Seems fair to me. Bomb hospitals, kindergartens and grain warehouses, expect to hear loud noises see some smoke at home.
There is no reason for Ukraine to split anything except Russia. Crimea is part of Ukraine and by invading it, Russia has forsaken future free access to the Black Sea for at least 80 years. It may take another 6 or 7 months to make that so, but the action is well underway.
What was the sad waste of life was the show Ukraine had to put on around Bakhumet. Nothing important there, but Russia had to be convinced Ukraine thought it was important, and they swallowed the bait hook line and sinker. Look at all the trench lines Russia built in the North, you caan see them on the DeepState website.. They moved every spare man they had to surround a worthless town no one cares about. Hitler insisting the crossing will be at Pas-de-Calais and not Normandy comes to mind. The instant Russia decided to not bother building trenches near the Dniepre because it was so wide then blew up the dam keeping it wide, they messed up big time. All the supply route bridges from Kerch are blown. The E58 is the only supply route from Crimea left for the forces around Bakhumet and the Russians near Kherson. If Ukraine cuts that there is almost nothing between them and the border of Crimea. Sure Russia can pull forces off Bakhumet, but then it will lose Bakhumet. Either way Russia lost. Meanwhile more things go boom inside Russia where the Russian people can see them and know Russia lied when it claimed it was winning.
In a written order on Thursday, Andrey Kanashevich, acting head of the Kupiansk military administration, published a list of 37 settlements near the combat zone that were to be evacuated by local residents. He cited “constant artillery attacks and the security situation” as the reason for the decision, adding that the order also applies to the city of Kupiansk itself. <snipped>
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The same outcome here would be preferable.
Problem is... Putin is 70 and I know there is many a hawk here in the west,
whose got their greedy eyes on Russia itself.
Hence I see problems ahead for quite some time, and that is bad news.
Arrite, have a good weekend mister.
My understanding is that Ukrainian refugees can apply for a three year leave of stay, so even if some were transported to the UK Star Trek style on the day Russia invaded, they still have 18+ months leave left.
I'm not saying their status in the UK is without difficulties. Some have been made homeless by their host families, affordable rented accommodation is difficult to find, some have married British people and started families, etc.
Rishi Sunak, our second generation immigrant Prime Minister who has had a life of elite privilege appears to have a particular problem with other immigrants. I don't expect any of the overseas members of our communities will be treated with dignity and humanity with him at the helm, but I don't think even that muppet of a leader tried to send 100,000 Ukrainian refugees back home last week.
I think maybe Sunak might have stamped his feet reiterating that the three year leave to stay is not a pathway to permenant settlement, three years leave being estimated as enough time for the conflict to end. I can only find this information from a Ukrainian source, however, as there seems to be no recent mention of it in the British media.
Inevitably the situation will have to be reviewed, and I believe parliament is already being petitioned to recognise that the situation isn't that simple for our Ukrainian guests. We cannot send them home regardless of the circumstances without breaking our own human rights laws.
This may happen when their 3 year visas run out in 2025 not last week.
I thought Biden gave Zelensky an ultimatum with respect to attacks on Russian soil because that would turn him from defender to aggressor.
I imagine the Ukraine is doing hit and runs and distracting the Russians. They are going to attack X so lets shove our troops that way. Gottcha! We lied.
There is an issue with the Russians of severe mis-management by Generals, and commanders. Supply issues and the fact that the Russians are raiding museums for tanks and bone yards.
The old saw is you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Likewise you can tear a man from his home and mediocrital job, tell him to buy his army gear, send him to a country that has no importance to him and then shoot at him. Then expect him to worry about Putin and the oligarchs. No, he will worry about his azz!
Only... the costs are high as u say.
There is something completly wrong about polish solldiers at the front.
Little I can do from over here.
This whole war is so senseless! Just split the damn country!
It will be for the last time.
It's dangerous for any country to be a stepping stone into war, no matter who's in the right or wrong..
The US has spent $113 billion on the Ukraine war since it started, that includes compensation to the western countries that have a border with the Ukraine;; the US is asking for $40 billion from the US tax payer..
This may happen when their 3 year visas run out in 2025 not last week.
It was Boris Johnson that told the Ukraine to go back to war, there will be no peace talks because the UK has a Russian bee in it's bonnet..
The UK also has a big target on it's back due to the long range shadow missiles and the depleted uranium ammo it supplied to the Ukraine..
It was Boris Johnson that told the Ukraine to go back to war, there will be no peace talks because the UK has a Russian bee in it's bonnet..
The UK also has a big target on it's back due to the long range shadow missiles and the depleted uranium ammo it supplied to the Ukraine..
Even with the Russian poisonings in the UK in recent years, Russia is not something we talked about much before the invasion of Ukraine.
Maybe it looks different from the outside, but I was really surprised to hear that I have a 'big problem with Russia'. I guess I have a problem with any oppressive regime, but that includes aspects of the UK.
Even with the Russian poisonings in the UK in recent years, Russia is not something we talked about much before the invasion of Ukraine.
Maybe it looks different from the outside, but I was really surprised to hear that I have a 'big problem with Russia'. I guess I have a problem with any oppressive regime, but that includes aspects of the UK.
I thought Biden gave Zelensky an ultimatum with respect to attacks on Russian soil because that would turn him from defender to aggressor.
Noting also the prohibition against shelling or bombing Russia with US weapons is just a White House rule that President Biden can change at any time. If the world wants Ukraine to win this war, then if Putin won't pull out of Crimea, leveling much of Russia may be the only way. Putin's choice.
It was Boris Johnson that told the Ukraine to go back to war, there will be no peace talks because the UK has a Russian bee in it's bonnet..
The UK also has a big target on it's back due to the long range shadow missiles and the depleted uranium ammo it supplied to the Ukraine..
Russia under Putin on numerous occasions attempted and committed acts of assassination against people inside the UK. Those murders abd attempted murders of people inside the UK were both terrorist and by definition state spomsored Acts of War So even if itt is a decade later, UK is fully within it's rights in returning the favor.
Russia began using depleted Uranium ammunition against Ukraine almost a year ago. This fully justified Ukraine using such ammunition against Russia. Ukraine didn't have any, but the West has been happy to supply it.
It's dangerous for any country to be a stepping stone into war, no matter who's in the right or wrong..
The US has spent $113 billion on the Ukraine war since it started, that includes compensation to the western countries that have a border with the Ukraine;; the US is asking for $40 billion from the US tax payer..
Name of villages, area.
Where are they headed too, where can we expect the advances next?
I'll take a look at google maps if you just tell me the latest wins for the Ukrainians.
Noting also the prohibition against shelling or bombing Russia with US weapons is just a White House rule that President Biden can change at any time. If the world wants Ukraine to win this war, then if Putin won't pull out of Crimea, leveling much of Russia may be the only way. Putin's choice.
It was Boris Johnson that told the Ukraine to go back to war, there will be no peace talks because the UK has a Russian bee in it's bonnet..
The UK also has a big target on it's back due to the long range shadow missiles and the depleted uranium ammo it supplied to the Ukraine..
As for your other comment read this link and it might just clear up your conception of the UK's stance on Russia. I've quote some parts of the speech just in case you don't bother to read it. The speech was made just a few months ago and clarifies just how we feel about Russia and it's people.
"We do not suffer from Russophobia. We have a long history between our two countries. We fought together in two world wars. Across our country people respect and admire Russia’s rich cultural heritage."
"We do not want Russia to fail as a state, as the Russian delegation sometimes claims. Quite the opposite, in fact. We want Russia to be a stable and prosperous nation – just one that does not invade and try to annex its neighbours."
"The problem in Ukraine today is not caused by Russophobia. It is caused by President Putin’s desire to annex a sovereign nation, in breach of the most fundamental principles of the UN Charter."
"So when the Russian state complains about Russophobia, what they actually object to, very simply, is Ukraine’s determination that it should remain an independent nation: its refusal to bend to Russia’s will and to give Russia its land."
Sound like something out of a kinder garden book.
Sound like something out of a kinder garden book.
As a British subject I get rather sick of judgemental people who put other's in brackets and assume to know it all especially about the country I live in.
You carry on worshipping Putin ,I'll try to stay on course and try to understand just what repercussions this war has had globally if that's all right with you.
And what do you think my point is in all of this.
What do I stand for.