Howdy People. I need Mr Spock's Help on this one.

I just came across this Problem this morning.
Its called a "Russell's Paradox." wow

Consider a group of barbers who shave only those men who do not shave themselves. Suppose there is a barber in this collection who does not shave himself; then by the definition of the collection, he must shave himself. But no barber in the collection can shave himself. (If so, he would be a man who does shave men who shave themselves.)
confused confused dunno What am I missing ??

Here is The Full article containing the Riddle
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The barber that doesn;t shave.angel confused
Just woke up Non... can't even think. Why are you so jolly????comfort
Hi Non wave how's your unpack?
hmmmm I'm bit slow with math so ....really dunno about this dunno
I just know about the theory of the barber that I can shaved by myself laugh
No, where I think you've gone wrong is in this sentence: " does not shave himself; then by definition he must shave himself."

Ok, so he doesn't shave. The definition says he shaves only men who don't shave themselves - fine. But it does not say he HAS to shave ALL men who don't shave themselves. Hence, it is quite OK for him not to shave himself. No paradox.
Obscuritan,

Its not my Paradox Its from scientificamerican . com.

You make sense in what you say but.
He is part of a group of :-
"barbers who shave ONLY those men who do not shave themselves"

Like you I think the article is flawed somewere.
But alas not were you stated. doh
hi nonsmoker wave what a tough topic you have today wow
well, you are not missing anything. what I can understand from such paradox is that most people know that mathematics is an EXACT science. however according to russel, it's NOT ALWAYS because there is inconsistency even in mathematics.

have a nice day! bouquet
Hi Tela,
good to see you, I hope all is well for you
Hows your garden these days. hug
"Live long and prosper"

grin
Lookin sharp there Boban.
Avoid Klingon Women laugh
sir CuddlingSoul,
"eh What's up Dox" laugh rolling on the floor laughing
all is well, nonsmoker.. thanks!
you still remember that "garden" thingy, heh? grin
by the way, long time no "talky" so how have you been up to? handshake
I bet you are... still trying to wake up. Having a hard time trying to smile here. LOLhug teddybear
NON HOW YA REALLY WHAT ARE YOU ON LOL 7 IN THE MORN YOUR MIND GOING THROUGH RIDDLES ,I BET THAT POOR BARBER HAS A BEARD ABOUT SIX FOOT LONG
--what ya unpacking books of riddles have ya moved house
Good morning Non wave
i hope you're doing ok ,, and seeing abit of light at the end of the tunnel now after your move --are you doing ok ? hug
paradox has me stumped confused
all i can say is after many years of shaving my male patients ,i am truly an EXPERT shaving " Barber" lol !! blushing
If i had a penny for every male patient i have shaved over the years , i'd be a very rich lady ! :-)
Haaaaaaaaaa Spock here ! Beam me up a paradox help help help confused frustrated AH Captain the angel2 angel2 angel2 can solve the prob talk to hand blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah just ask super super super to fine the barbers all sorted ?grin grin grin conversing doh
this guy obviously hasnt serenitys expert shavin skills

think hes fed up of shaving guys
Good morning Mike wave how are you ?
grin i watched your video clip ,,he's taking way too long with that shave ! laugh
i'd have 3 men shaved by the time he has that 1 done !! laugh
plus , i don't sing when i am shaving - one has to concentrate on what one is doing - so as not to cause wee nicks in the skin ! thumbs up angel
Hi bro i have no brain i cant help u haha
Non, cheers its monday...but here we go..

If we try to say that barber does shave himself, then we get into a contradiction, because we said that that every one of “group of barbers who shave only those men who do not shave themselves” so it cannot hold itself.

Since neither point is logically defensible, there's our paradox.
So...the barbers shave each other, but not themselves. In that way, none of the barbers shave themselves, but only the other barbers (who do not shave themselves) as well as any other men who do not shave themselves.
Lordy, i came here to have fun, guess i came here to be amused.
It does not say he's obliged to shave himself, let the other barbers in the group do it. professor Thus avoiding contradicting his membership in the group.
I think only men can answer your question...
Cham got to my reply first. Mr Scott, beam me up please!
laugh
Easy the barber must be a woman:-)
Grins:-)
If thats wrong then forget it its too much for my brain today:-)
Mmwha hugs
Tis easy. One of the other barbers shaves him, or he has a beard. Even if this barber is a female, it would apply to her legs. grin
rolling on the floor laughing @ Catfoot. I got MY reply first! tongue

Now, where's Non with the official answer??? confused
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