VETERANS AND HOMELESSNESS

Sadly it`s a problem here too!

Having no statistics at hand I think there are much more people in the USA homeless and poor.
So it should not only be about veterans.

It is bad and horrible in any country and even more in a cold climate.

Scott, I am appalled and can't help but truly questioning where it has gone wrong? You know if we do really value our freedom fought and protected for by these people? Or truly their usefulness is passe and now left on their own?

Thanks Scott

SR

Rbrt first of all welcome to my blog. Second, did you know I used to come there at Ventura street in Fresno? My ex of 25 years was offered a job in the oil field in Bakersfield and we moved there for 7 years. Relatives from Fresno to Stockton used to be my trip on my days off.

Anyways, wow Rbrt, that would be a true service for our people, right? And yes I wish we can get close to him..I am heading to Tahoe for my kids trip but I wish I can change and go there then?

Would be a blurt question on his face, ain't it?

Thanks Robert, by the way when I wanted to work for the Immigration after offered when we moved there I was in the main office there..forgot the name of the street..but it is downtown..I turned down the offer..

Nice day Rbrt

SR

Guadal I have a video published about the whole statistics of homelessness in the world. and if you are interested I can try to upload here as I am not yet savvy on this then you can listen to my presentation published by JK in 2012 and was posted here at CS including at the Poetry corner.

Yes guadal, the reason I isolated this topic is because the picture I saw for them is just too much to bear.

SR

Guadal wheeww I made the upload of my old video on the homelessness because the statistics are in the last part.

Thank you all

I am not trying to derail our beautiful day of celebrating VD but truly this is a very acute problem.

Who has the heart to care for them? How can we, as individuals connect to create a program to help? I am aware of the big CHARITY involvement yet why does it still prevail then?

thanks again.

SR

I agree sundayrose i have a son that serves in the military and i worry about him!

Well maybe, we can truly help by getting into knowing what is left of them when they are done? I heard that with the prolonged security needs for the TALIBAN, infested Afghanistan, instead of pulling off the whole of US military posts (about half a million or so? from US alone?)they are extending it for 10 more years and the leader of that country is pushed from non commitment to do so.

But of course, the significance to us is our expense at what benefit and those that are to become VETERANS?

thanks Scott

SR

It seems like that wht and while you're at it, will you please listen to the video? tell me what you feel? and like the new picture.

Did you get yourself a date? I heard you're day of the hearts was yesterday?

Take care wht.

SR

WE (the USA send our men & women off to wars but we neglect to provide for them the ways that they deserve and earned to be provided for.

I told u I cannot see it and u talk BS, too.

Ccncy, first welcome to my blog and what an honor to share your idea. Maybe through your experience and wisdom, you can expound a little bit? Of what you think and why it is so?

thanks

SR

iota, thanks for you visit and sharing you opinion, so your country just use them, and then leave them like us? At least this is the way I see the picture. I wish there is one from the Veterans to address this discussion? Like from the administration? And then from the heroes? As well as from those who now live in the streets?

Anyone??

Well guadal, thank you for your input if you think I talk about BS why the hell are you even here?

SR I guess, I wouldn't thank you for that right?

Goverment looks at the common people as cattle and its milatary as common as well with a few prize bulls. you,me and everyone else are as goverment would say here for the goverments use. If you cant breed then your not good enough to feed,If you are damaged goods like ex milatary then you have out used your usefullness and not worth the effort,if you are a street urchant you are unimportant. The goverment refuses to put forth the money or time to help these people simply because they have no use,they are strays sorta speak. Goverment is too busey trying to look good to the world and in our case too busey helping other countrys to worry about there own. Its all about power and we as the common people just let them rule over us. Personaly I feel if goverment,kings,queens etc. where elimated and the human race was left to there own devices we would all be better off. The human race has survived way before goverment was invented. Another thought goverments where formed by the power hungry people that wanted control over others in order to feed there lazy worthlessness,they have the power to feed off of human weekness and gullability. Do you rember the statement made by a congress woman stateing that laws need to be made in order to protect the common people because they are too stupid to protect them self and there for it is up to goverment to protect them.

Personally I feel if government,kings,queens etc. where eliminated and the human race was left to there own devices we would all be better off. The human race has survived way before government was invented. Another thought governments where formed by the power hungry people that wanted control over others in order to feed there lazy worthlessness,they have the power to feed off of human weakness and gullibility. Do you remember the statement made by a congress woman stating that laws need to be made in order to protect the common people because they are too stupid to protect themselves and therefore it is up to government to protect them.

My dear I am not quite in agreement completely without government? And I think the reason is because of the population number right now would be left to anarchy.

But on the last part where the people are too stupid to take care of themselves is pretty much a very authoritarian ruling when in reality it is not true.

But my friend, your dissents are shared by me. I am not really complaining for the most part on how our government is running the system, other than this callous and cold and unforgiving treatment, they don't deserve.

Thanks my dear.

SR

we are in a hell of a world to live in these days ...here in my country we have a " welfare state " and the lucky ones are the women ...all she as to do is have children and she will never have to go to work ...but pity the poor man who gets these women pregnant ...his life is doomed for 18 years of the lowest income ever to the point of being homeless .

Virgo, yes this world is rather having some incompetence in handling everything and your concern on this case is I believe the same way as here with us.

But on these war vets, I just can't understand why it gets to a point where at one time, they are there in the front lines and then they come home only to be stigmatized? Can't get it.

Thanks
SR

All your presuppositions are very legitimate ones and therefore should be addressed in many variables although we can perhaps simplify it by taking it one thing at a time? But i am with you. Just doesn't make sense that these souls had been to war?? PLATOON? Subject to all kinds of brutalities, and then live with all those nightmares they had to suffer and put up with and then come home only to live their lives more endangered than where they were?

I don't get it?????

Thanks Johnny
SR

Virgo, in line with your thinking, there is a study already done in my country about the percentage of people release as to those going back? voluntarily commit a crime that way they go back to prison and have a warm bed, heated and comfortable quarters, be fed on time? etc. etc. In return, the prison budget is given and allocated based on the numbers of these instituted (criminals) people? Not necessarily a hard core criminals?

Beats me. Virgo???

SR

Yes, I like that thinking Virgo? why not redirect them and since their experience is first hand, then surely they would be in a better position to teach them all the technique for survival, I would think.

Good solutions, Virgo.

Thank you very much.

SR

And by the way, is serving in the military mandatory for your country?

SR::dunno:

it is sort of here in my country. there are just few legitimate excuse if you don't want to serve. I did hear that in some more states where the attraction of the initial pay and benefits is carried out as a means of making money more than getting a local job, specially where unemployment rate is way higher thTjan the average, which today per January poll is at 7.2 percent.

I only read this from Time Magazine..haven't verified..

Thanks Virgo

SR

Wow,Hammond, WOW, WOW...My heart goes out to you and the many who had been traumatized for such a cause and effect for you guys.

Now this make sense, so it is not at all the money but how the traumatic experience as the leading cause of this indescribable result.

And if this is the case, why can't the government then, create a program where these concern as legitimate and as part of the rehabilitation be channeled properly?

I just Googled the result and it is staggering by the hundreds of thousand Robert.

I can't help but start getting into the depth as to how this can be addressed.

coincidentally, the president is here in California, but I am heading to Tahoe right now and besides it would be a little if not absolutely nil at all to even get close to him. And this is why I can't wait to address this here after reading your gruesome poem as my heart can't stop beating and bleeding for this cause.

Well Robert don't worry about the reaction you had. Can you imagine all those movies that we see about war are but real reenactment of these experiences?

Thanks Hammond my friend.

I am so happy for you that your outlet seem to be helping? How is tia?

SR

What a gut wrenching, heart breaking, mind boggling revelation you just laid out Robert. so here is my question, and I know you are writing a book, I don't know if it is related about this trauma. Now based on what you just mentioned, why can't you, since you seem to pretty much have all the elements of making us understand your deep troubles be seeking a way to reach out for the government and let them see how bad this situation is? do they think that because they are giving them money, which is useless, would alleviate and or make them get back to normalcy? and if they do, why would this sickening number be on the board and yet THE PRESIDENT NEVER ADDRESSED THIS ON HIS UNION ADDRESS?

The money, that we spent, (I read this on a very tiny itchy spot on the paper) which is about A BILLION A DAY? A DAY ROBERT, NOW I CAN BE WRONG BECAUSE I READ THIS DURING THE DESERT STORM, IF THIS IS THE EXPENSE WHAT IS THE PROFIT AND OR BENEFIT FOR US?

CAN YOU TELL ME?

Are we asking the right questions here?

Hmmnn Robert Hammond Friend of mine. I haven't come across any one of this new Veterans.

NOTE MY MOM WAS A WAR VETERAN IN THE SECOND WORLD WAR ROBERT AND SHE WAS PRETTY MUCH TAKEN CARED OF BOTH ON THE MEDICAL AND MONEY But her role in the Philippines was to cook for the ALLIED SOLDIERS DURING THE JAPANESE OCCUPATION AND THREE OF MY UNCLES WERE SLAUGHTERED BY THE AXIS.

Now. I can't stop being concerned on this and by all accounts, the world, need to be aware of this.

Don't you think?

Thanks again my dear friend.

SR

Loulou my dearest friend. Your heart and your sentiments are very much understood and it is only now that I am really informed as to the real root of the problem. A veteran in our midst Robert who explained the whole thing is really enlightening. He didn't discredit the programs that the government is giving them after their service but the drugs that were administered to them to cope and function within the terrors and brutalities of war and it's effect is irreversible. In simple terms, they are now ZOMBIES AND OBLIVIOUS TO THE WORLD THEY are put back into.

Very sad and very helpless. And so more than anything else, we are the ones that need to be informed and educated as to how we deal with them and be accepted as they are because more than anything else, we are truly the sick ones, for not being able to deal with them in their own world. My humble opinion.

Thanks loulou.

We can only pray.

SR

Loulou my dearest friend. Your heart and your sentiments are very much understood and it is only now that I am really informed as to the real root of the problem. A veteran in our midst Robert who explained the whole thing is really enlightening. He didn't discredit the programs that the government is giving them after their service but the drugs that were administered to them to cope and function within the terrors and brutalities of war and it's effect is irreversible. In simple terms, they are now ZOMBIES AND OBLIVIOUS TO THE WORLD THEY are put back into.

Very sad and very helpless. And so more than anything else, we are the ones that need to be informed and educated as to how we deal with them and be accepted as they are because more than anything else, we are truly the sick ones, for not being able to deal with them in their own world. My humble opinion.

Thanks loulou.

We can only pray.

SR

Hello dear sundayrose1; I only scratch the surface of the problem with USA Vietnam Veterans from what I know from documentaries and movies and I get impression that USA Government treats they're Vietnam Veterans as part of "history" they rather forget about, deny it ? It's very sad to send people to war and after experiencing war trauma- leave them on they're own without recognitions for all they're been true People choose they're Government to look after they're interest so it's commen people who should make difference in addressing heart of the problems that needs to be taken care of