Another one has disappeared.

In a year when two aircraft have been lost a third must surely spell the end for some of these budget airlines? Whilst one could be considered unfortunate, three to me smacks of a lack of duty in the safety of their passengers, whilst the facts are not yet known the plane, an Airbus A320-200, is the workhorse of budget airlines & has an excellent safety record, when operated in accordance with good procedures.



Thoughts to the passengers & families waiting for news sad flower
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Zman wave

I travel with AirAsia very very often. Excellent track record.

In fact, was looking at some of their promotional flights just last night...

sad flower sad flower sad flower
Its one of good record airlines & yes been travel many time with AA.

Hope we'll get good news from them
And keep pray for all passanger & the familysad flower
It is terrible.

It makes me think of the bermuda trangle shifting.
Mimi, whilst it's true that till now they haven't lost a plane, toward the bottom of the article you'll find this -

"AirAsia Indonesia was banned from flying to the European Union in 2007 due to safety concerns but this was lifted in July 2010".

dunno
Lavina, I would say the same as my comment to Mimi, life teaches us that normally there's no smoke without fire doh
The latest news is ...its still missing..... when it went missing it had only 4-5hours of fuel..sad flower
Snookums, my feelings on these loses are more toward a slap-dash attitude to safety & maintenance than some mythical area.
Niayana, it supposedly disappeared in an area with good radar coverage so I fear there's little chance of it reappearing moping
Yes very sad indeed...sad flower
The article did say the pilot was experiencing heavy cloud, perhaps a systems malfunction has resulted in the plane flying out of radar range.
Sola, as Niayana said it's been too long now for it to still be in the air unfortunately.
Zman,do you think its lost in the sea?dunno
Mimi, of course we won't know until both this & 370 have been found & investigated, but one interesting theory is doing the rounds, it has to do with insulation material that was found to be flammable, airlines were advised to replace it, some did some didn't, for me it's things like that which show how much airlines care about the safety of their passengers verses profits for shareholders.
India, it's a holiday period here so updates are slow, the comment below yours might shed some light there.
Zman ,I just fail to understand in ths modern age with all the advanced technology ,why its so difficult to locate a missing plane?
India, possibly due to modern planes being so reliable there's been little thought put into finding one that isn't dunno
Stastics show that flying is safer then driving or cycling. ..
India, I have a feeling that after this year that may depend on which airline you choose, they are not all equal imo.
External location devices placed on aircraft exteriors that utilze satellite tracking systems that are unable to be tampered or interfered with have apparently been available for some years, but airlines have deemed there to be little need for them. This attitude may change in light of recent events.

I've always admired the corporate retro active approach where warding against loss of life is only of any importance when the bottom line might potentially be affected. Acting pro-actively and making aircraft easy to find before this spate of missing planes would have saved airlines some semblance of face, not to mention giving grieving family and friends some hope of closure.
Zman, does it mean if the airline chargess you less then it compromises on the safety of the passengers?
To think that there were 2 other airlines from adjoining country which were on the headlines this yr! Is there something to it or just a mere coincidence? Iam a regular passenger of budget airlines and I hope this news won't affect the rest.
India, not necessarily imo, we have budget airlines here in Europe who's safety record is second to none, their profitability comes from better management imo rather than cutting corners.
tatami, personally I think we as consumers will have to consider which airline to use based on the way it operates rather than the lowest ticket price, as I said to India we here have airlines who produce no frills travel at the lowest cost without compromise of safety, and they are profitable so it can be done.
I did see a comment that the pilot had posted an unexpected change to the flight route before they went off radar. No idea whether that was speculation or fact, our international media can blur the lines a bit.
Viv, yes I saw that, heavy cloud, and therein maybe the reason for it, but these days heavy cloud is hardly unexpected, are airlines running into weather rather than using more fuel to go round it? This year I've been watching two tv series on plane crashes & there causes, one big factor coming to light is the heavy workload on pilots & them being too tired to make the right decisions, in fact one crash was caused by the captain being asleep, by the time he woke up it was too late.
Oh, this is so very very sad! sad flower
My heart goes out to all them people on board and their families who must be frantically waiting to hear news of their loved ones. Doesn't bear thinking about how they are all feeling. Prayers go out to all concerned.

Hope so much that they find answers as to why these things are happening on the budget flights. Does it seem to be more flights that are going a long distance that this is happening to as appose to those making shorter flights? So very concerning and disturbing.

Heartfelt feelings to all concerned teddybear
Wallops, yes it's odd that take-off & landing are deemed to be the most dangerous times of any flight, therefore short haul should have the worst record as they do it more often, however as you say these incidents are on long flights dunno
Wallops applause applause applause

When AA resumes their UK route, I'll come and visit you ok??

We will go for afternoon high-tea in our best fineries ok? dancing dancing dancing
Mimi, I would lOVE you to come and visit me ....love

BUT do not want you to risk anything till they have found out why and rectify it. At the end of the day we are talking of people's life's!!! AND families and loved ones left behind...too distressing!!! Don't fly anywhere Mimi till everything is given the ok!!!!!! Couldn't bear losing our Mimi!!!! crying

I wonder what it is about these longer journeys? I my son flies Ryan Air to Ireland and back often as they are budget flights (his wife is Irish). Not heard of anything dodgy yet on them... Though it makes me wonder. Scarey!!!
Wallops

I'll stll take the risk to come and see you wink

Spring 2016, mark that on your calendar! wine
Mimi, better not give the pilot any cupcakes, don't want him being too comfortable professor
New development -

Indonesia's transport ministry said the pilot had asked permission to climb to 38,000ft (11,000m).

Ministry official Djoko Murjatmodjo said the request "could not be approved at that time due to traffic, there was a flight above, and five minutes later [flight QZ8501] disappeared from radar".
Is it me or are the flight paths so busy over the Java Sea that they couldn't have found a space for it confused
Pilot asked to increase height due to bad weather...In the scheme of things the amount of aircraft in the air per day is astounding. Accidents happen and mostly human error. I fly a lot and I still hate it. The second Malaysia flight was shot down, nothing sinister there, the first, pilot was a nutter, third.. who knows..Aliens.
If this accident is indeed due to weather and a lack of air space in which to divert aircraft, one really has to question procedures or protocol in place for a high volume route that is often hindered by tropical storms.

Surely air traffic control in this region is used to pushing tin out of the way of bad weather.
Ian, well you say nothing sinister about the second one, however a lot of airlines had taken the view that flying over a war zone was an unacceptable risk & had stopped doing it months before, could an airline that takes the chance to save fuel going round it be considered sinister dunno
indeed bad weather\storms are the norm there so you'd imagine they'd be well practiced in keeping flights away from them dunno
Luke, yes I'm not bothered by the thought of flying, not so happy about the thought of crashing though doh
Ken, the latest I've seen is that they were deigned permission to make the climb to 38k due to overhead traffic, someone must have asked first dunno
Excerpt from Air Asia's in flight magazine in April of this year.

" "Pilot training in AirAsia is continuous and very thorough. Rest assured that your captain is well prepared to ensure your plane will never get lost".

Woops
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