Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet ( Archived) (845)

Jun 8, 2010 10:06 PM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
Abram: There are many things we do not want, and we should live our lives always prepared for the worse that can happen. We can only do our best for children, loved ones, and of that best is also preparing them for loss. It is too late now, and what has already been put in motion according to our will, is going to be carried out. We cannot go back and fix the theoretic social policies that are now proving their worth. They stagnated the worlds economic engine, gained a loyal following of those prospering of its benefit, and they never produced anything to replace what they have used. The money was growing on trees, and they stripped the forest in unison, of their own desires.
??????? Don't think I follow that one
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Jun 8, 2010 10:11 PM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
There is no "system set in motion" Thats where you miss the point. There are too many eyes on this whole thing now. The gigs up. You've tipped your hand. No more "which shell is the pea under" flim flam anymore. You just don't get it do you?
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Jun 8, 2010 10:33 PM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
SilverBirch: ??????? Don't think I follow that one

I learned along time ago that what I, we thought was giving, applying, equal opportunities for others, was in fact a lie. My first clue came to light when my brother returned home from 'nam. His eyes told the story before he even opened his mouth, and I learned of his distress with our nation, and the people here in the states who did not care about protecting their fellow citizens. Has soon as I turned 18 I quit school, and enlisted. Honorably discharge, and a few years later suffered permanent disabilities because of a drunk driver, who hit the car I was in head on. Pics on my profile, for any doubters. That was 30 years ago, and what I have learned about the way various states define, and apply federal legislation, made me realize what a ponzy scheme it was. More then 70 percent of tax dollars pays for both federal, and state, employees, and operation of the various bureaucacies. In the county I live in they spend $4000.00 an hour just to operate, before paying benefits to applicants. doh There is a lot more, and America knows nothing about it, has they write their own rules, and regulations, in order to keep their jobs.
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Jun 8, 2010 11:08 PM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
SilverBirch
SilverBirchSilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Posts
Stop US aid to the Israeli war machine. Peace to the middle east.
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Jun 9, 2010 12:23 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SilverBirch: IF there ever IS a Palistine what strange, fragmented shape will it be? More than likely the IDF will systematically "liquidate" the problem.


What precident do you have for this considering that Palestinians have a one third population growth over Israelis? As for what shape it will be I see two flags combined into one once peace is found.

SilverBirch: And so it goes. Sic semper tyrannus?


I know you don't bother reading up on history and just vent but since '48 and the UN resolution of Palestine Israel has been attacked over and over again after holding out their hand to nations and peoples alike to join them in peace. They have returned land and made concessions only to be attacked again yet never once have they made a state policy out of being tyrants so, history est regnum of validus.
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Jun 9, 2010 12:29 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
theduke1980
theduke1980theduke1980Brighton, East Sussex, England UK51 Threads 2 Polls 590 Posts
Isreal fu$&(ing sucks.....How dare they, the only people on the planet who could possibly see logic and approve of this outrage is the Isrealis and pro Jewish. FREE PALESTINEhead banger
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Jun 9, 2010 12:30 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
theduke1980
theduke1980theduke1980Brighton, East Sussex, England UK51 Threads 2 Polls 590 Posts
SilverBirch: Stop US aid to the Israeli war machine. Peace to the middle east.
head banger thumbs up
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Jun 9, 2010 12:37 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
theduke1980: Isreal fu$&(ing sucks.....How dare they, the only people on the planet who could possibly see logic and approve of this outrage is the Isrealis and pro Jewish. FREE PALESTINE


What outrage? Start from the beginning now. You know, when Israel accepted the 1948 resolution and implored the Palestinians to join with them in peace.

Then what happened?professor
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Jun 9, 2010 12:42 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
In response to:
In response to: SilverBirch: Stop US aid to the Israeli war machine. Peace to the middle east.
jesus2011::banger: thumbs up


So what good do you feel would come of the US stopping all aid to Israel considering Israel can make up the shortfall easily from other nations and, the US would lose big bucks by having to counter a strong opposition in the region from the nations taking their place in helping Israel?

Just wondering if any people actually think this wish through is all.
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Jun 9, 2010 12:57 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
LILLYLADY: It's interesting that Turkey peaceniks seem to be worrying about the Palestinians but not about what was done to their own population of Kurds.


Lilly, you I know are not confused but, thank you for being aware of the true nature of the shill. Here, Palestinians are once again being used to further the cause of excuse making for a nation's own lack of freedoms. Shills just love blaming somebody as their main purpose is to deflect the truth.

LILLYLADY:
Rather ironic. Seems the Israelis want to find out exactly why the Turks have slighted their own people and feel that it is so important to force their way through a naval blockade while Israel is at war with Gaza. Somehow I think that the Israeli student flotilla will meet a military blockade trying to sail into Turkey to address their concerns regarding the treatment of the Kurds. It will be interesting to see how Turkey greets them before they even arrive and what excuse Turkey will use to condone the treatment of their Kurdish population. Now we shall see!!


I'm sure Turkey will allow them to deliver the aid.

LILLYLADY:
"We would ask why they are not talking about the Kurdish minority or the Armenians that were murdered or many other problems? We want to expose the truth, this hypocrisy and the absurdity."


A waste of time. There will always be shills for the terrorists. Israelis should always be open for peace and defense of their people in case peace is not in the minds of those who directly and deliberately attack their people. Once Hamas and the Palestinians embrace peace with Israel as a policy then true peace and negotiations can begin. With all the world's blessings land can be assigned and financial arrangements made but, as long as Palestinians remain focused on war and attack, nothing can be done.

teddybear
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Jun 9, 2010 1:24 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
SilverBirch: What will be in 5 years? In 50 years? Israel has no intention of assimilating with the international community.


The guy who never read history is now predicting the future. This is rich! rolling on the floor laughing

SilverBirch:
Is there a greater agenda? A plan? A grand design?
What has happened,....historically? When one nation, the Greeks, the Romans,..Germans,. tried to dominate?


Hey Einstein, try the Chinese, you know, a wall to keep the savages out. China, one of the greatest empires the world has seen stays self contained and was never renowned for exploring and why - because they never wanted to leave the best place on earth.

SilverBirch:
With the nuclear "card" everything takes on a dark ominous desparate tone. We must be vigilant. Watch just how this small battle plays out. Sic semper tyrannus.


And don't forget, make sure that the guys who don't want peace are played as the eternal victims. It makes it so much more ludicrous when you portray 'Ann Frank' as a belt bomb wearing fanatic.rolling on the floor laughing

teddybear
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Jun 9, 2010 1:55 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
LILLYLADY:
One last thing, when you finally find the Ann Frank of your dreams in Gaza, do post a wedding picture for us to see. We'll cheer you on for sure.


He doesn't give a dam. He just hates without even knowing what the hell is going on. So righteous Silverbirch doesn't even know who the parties got to this point here much less what they should do. He lumps all Israelis together and yet, is able to individually separate the terrorist group Hamas from each and every person in Gaza, ever thought they elected and support them.

Lots of blame = stop listening and just do what you need to do.

teddybear

How you doing Lilly?
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Jun 9, 2010 1:56 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
FIFTY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cheering cheering cheering
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Jun 9, 2010 2:13 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
galaxy15: ..didn't read all the propaganda, my friend.

You, are obviously on the payroll...

cheers
G


Nope. Just talking reality to a guy who has no clue.

Notice you couldn't counter the fact the population growth of Palestinians makes you first point just a rant and the fact that Israel from it's inception has always embraced peace yet has been constantly attacked.



Payroll? rolling on the floor laughing

When I was over there I preferred to deal with Palestinians as I have nothing but contempt for individual cocky Israelis however, the propaganda is all owned by your shill masters.

Cheersteddybear
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Jun 9, 2010 2:23 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Nope. Just talking reality to a guy who has no clue.

You know the reality - and I don't?

Notice you couldn't counter the fact the population growth of Palestinians makes you first point just a rant and the fact that Israel from it's inception has always embraced peace yet has been constantly attacked.

I notice that you have not been 'ranting' for 50 pages!?
...what answer could anyone give you, that would stop this 'ranting'?

Payroll?
You present as someone who is obviously knowledgeable on the subject - begs the question...

When I was over there I preferred to deal with Palestinians as I have nothing but contempt for individual cocky Israelis however, the propaganda is all owned by your shill masters.

...'Individual cocky', anyones - should be treated with contempt - do you fall into this category - do yo think?

cheers
G
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Jun 9, 2010 2:23 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Costapacket
CostapacketCostapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2 Threads 2,182 Posts
galaxy15: ..didn't read all the propaganda, my friend.

You, are obviously on the payroll...

cheers
G


Do you honestly believe all the pro Islamic/Hamas propagada that you write.

Try living under strict Islamic law and see how you like it.

Not allowed any free thoughts under pain of death. etc....
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Jun 9, 2010 2:26 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Costapacket: Do you honestly believe all the pro Islamic/Hamas propagada that you write.

Try living under strict Islamic law and see how you like it.

Not allowed any free thoughts under pain of death. etc....


I don't believe ANY propaganda...

...not allowed to discuss this post without being shouted down by fanatics?

cheers
G
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Jun 9, 2010 2:27 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Costapacket: Do you honestly believe all the pro Islamic/Hamas propagada that you write.

Try living under strict Islamic law and see how you like it.

Not allowed any free thoughts under pain of death. etc....


he doesn't have to do anything as he is free to rant his unsubstantiated mistaken emotional garbage same as we are able to reply with well thought out factually researched counter points.

I almost find this fun save for the repetition of having to point the shills to the same facts over and over.

frustrated
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Jun 9, 2010 2:28 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
galaxy15: I don't believe ANY propaganda...

...not allowed to discuss this post without being shouted down by fanatics?

cheers
G


Sure you are allowed to discuss however you already stated that you don't bother reading our posts.

Cheers.rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 9, 2010 2:29 AM CST Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet
Costapacket
CostapacketCostapacketparis, Centre-Val de Loire France2 Threads 2,182 Posts
Albertaghost: Nah. No conspiracy, I've seen him on a couple other threads but, given the facts presented in the face of blind hatred he did the old 'git gone' thing. Same as the rest of the shills once the rants were quashed one by one.


Ive posted several points here that nobody will answer, the pro terrorist/Hamas/Islamic supports choose what they answer.
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