Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet (845)
chris27292729: In ancient times,semitic tribes lived side by side, they had wars and peace between them, one of them was the Israelite tribe.
That was absolutely true right up to the rise of Zionism at the end of the 19th century.
And guess who funded it.
Globalist bankers.
They have used Zionism to accomplish their goals.
But like all their patsies, eventually there comes a time when they sacrifice the patsy to get rid of all the blame.
Globalism created Zionism, and in the near future Globalims will destroy Zionism, blaming it (and nationalism in general) for all the violence.
Then we'll have a Globalist world dictatorship for a few years.
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chris27292729: No the attack was preemptive by Israel. Yes i will ask USA and UK plus the 3 other permanent members,why they voted to give Arab land to Israel in 1947,and they did not give a portion of their own territory for the creation of the new nation.
Things weren't as democratic as you seem to think.
Neither the Balfour declaration nor the UN ever "gave" land to Israel. The Zionists took it by force and deception. But neither the British nor the UN was going to risk a war with world Jewry. The zionists contolled world opinion through the press, and they could mobilize demonstrations, riots, or terrorist campaigns in any country on earth.
Any country or organization that opposed the aims of zionism was in for big trouble. So it was self-interest to let the Zionists get away with stealing Palestine.
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Costapacket:
Correct me if im wrong but wasnt it isreal thatwas attacked in the 6 day war?
Correct me if im wrong but wasnt it isreal thatwas attacked in the 6 day war?
Yes, you're absolutely wrong on that.
There was a buildup on both sides.
But the actual fighting began with Israel's airforce launching blitzkreig pre-emptive strikes against the airbases of Jordan, Egypt, and Syria.
Most of the planes of the Arabs were destroyed on the ground.
Israel also launched a simultaneous land invasion of the Sinai.
Meanwhile the US ran interference from Israel preventing UN action to stop the fighting as long as Israel was winning.
But then when Egypt defeated the Israeli invasion and began to counter attack the US suddenly pushed for a ceasefire.
That's when the Israelis were massacring the Egyptian prisoners of war,
It's also when Israel decided to sink the USS liberty.
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Costapacket: Its religion thats all..
It isn't religious and it never was.
The original PLO was totally secular.
The Zionists were originally atheists.
It was Israel who created Hamas and engineered it into power in occupied Palestine, just so the clueless could claim that the conflict was religious in nature rather than an indigenous people fighting to free their land from foreign invaders.
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The river Jordan is chilly and cold,..Haliluyah, chill but the body and not the soul,...Haleluyah,....
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Son of a gun ya'll, they've been fighting, and playing together in this sand box ever since Abraham sent Hagar, and Ishmael packing, per order of Sarah. I'm sure Abraham's Israeli decendents wondered why Abrahams Arab decendents needed a flotilla for supplies, when they get constant supplies overland.
Must be something to do with the Arab decendents wanting to go on a cruise, and let the camels rest. 
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Or,....just maybe,... the fact that the fragments of aid allowed through is about one fifth the ammount needed to treat the ravaged populace,...or then again,..prehaps the Israeli government is useing the arguement that the Americans can slaughter the indiginous inhabitants (the Indians) so they can
do the same!!! I wonder if after they wipe em out are they going to make ammends by letting them open gambling casinos like in America!!!
do the same!!! I wonder if after they wipe em out are they going to make ammends by letting them open gambling casinos like in America!!!
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Abram: Son of a gun ya'll, they've been fighting, and playing together in this sand box ever since Abraham sent Hagar, and Ishmael packing, per order of Sarah. I'm sure Abraham's Israeli decendents wondered why Abrahams Arab decendents needed a flotilla for supplies, when they get constant supplies overland. Must be something to do with the Arab decendents wanting to go on a cruise, and let the camels rest.
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SilverBirch: Or,....just maybe,... the fact that the fragments of aid allowed through is about one fifth the ammount needed to treat the ravaged populace,...or then again,..prehaps the Israeli government is useing the arguement that the Americans can slaughter the indiginous inhabitants (the Indians) so they can
do the same!!! I wonder if after they wipe em out are they going to make ammends by letting them open gambling casinos like in America!!!
do the same!!! I wonder if after they wipe em out are they going to make ammends by letting them open gambling casinos like in America!!!
Its just dreadful ain't it. The Americans that slaughtered the natives first began their trek on the same grounds the Israeli's, Palestinian's are slaughtering each other on.
They might wanna first start out with some fire water, then work their way up to gambling casinos. Ya don't wanna give em to much all at once, or their relatives might wanna immigate into Palestine from the surrounding nations. OR....they could move from Palestine into the nations suppling them with arms, problem solved. 
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Having read many news reports on this attack, I think it's fairly clear that this flotilla was created and sent to provoke the Israelis into making just such an attack, thereby allowing the many TV film crews and reporters on board to make international headline news. Take note just who the reporters were and where they were from!!
Had the Turkish really JUST wanted to get aid to Gaza, they could have followed the routes already in place for such. However, they were determined to incite trouble.
Israel, for their part, were, in my opinion, fools to have allowed this attack to go ahead, they are acting like spoilt children.
In conclusion; I condemn both sides, one side for provocation and the other for raising to the bait.
Possibly 19 (The actual death toll is not yet available) people died through pig headed stupidity.
When will mankind learn that NO-ONE WINS IN WARS!!!!!
Had the Turkish really JUST wanted to get aid to Gaza, they could have followed the routes already in place for such. However, they were determined to incite trouble.
Israel, for their part, were, in my opinion, fools to have allowed this attack to go ahead, they are acting like spoilt children.
In conclusion; I condemn both sides, one side for provocation and the other for raising to the bait.
Possibly 19 (The actual death toll is not yet available) people died through pig headed stupidity.
When will mankind learn that NO-ONE WINS IN WARS!!!!!
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This is pure organized attack on Israelis to force them to lift Gaza blockade but force will not work, the Turkish are the main sponsor of this group flagging them selves as humanitarian group. Is really there mission is to deliver aids they could have done so with compliance to the rules.
They perfectly planned this to create this kind of confusion and by so doing draw support for the Hamas and give them more power; do you think the Israelis are fools??????????????????????
Hamas must denounce violence if they want to be happy and the Palestinians must stand united behind Mahmood Abbas whom we recognized and their leader. How can you cast your vote for a terrorist group to become your government and think you will leave in peace and enjoy the world eh?????????
This should serve as a lesson to the Lebanese people for allowing Hezbollah into their government for I know that soon and very soon they will dominate the Lebanon government and similar situation will be their faith.
The bad eggs among Arab Muslim are planning all this, legitimizing terrorist groups to dominate leadership in the Middle East in order to destroy ISRAEL. And control the region by terror.
For example:-
(1) Iran revolutionary guard is in power in Iran
(2) Hezbollah taking over Lebanon and Syria under Iran sponsorship
(3) Hamas take over Palestine
ONLY A FOOL CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS. I will never support evil Israel must toughen their stance at this time.
Who are the international community? And what is their job if they fail to condemn terrorist from governing a nation. Hams is responsible for the suffering of the Palestinians simple
They perfectly planned this to create this kind of confusion and by so doing draw support for the Hamas and give them more power; do you think the Israelis are fools??????????????????????
Hamas must denounce violence if they want to be happy and the Palestinians must stand united behind Mahmood Abbas whom we recognized and their leader. How can you cast your vote for a terrorist group to become your government and think you will leave in peace and enjoy the world eh?????????
This should serve as a lesson to the Lebanese people for allowing Hezbollah into their government for I know that soon and very soon they will dominate the Lebanon government and similar situation will be their faith.
The bad eggs among Arab Muslim are planning all this, legitimizing terrorist groups to dominate leadership in the Middle East in order to destroy ISRAEL. And control the region by terror.
For example:-
(1) Iran revolutionary guard is in power in Iran
(2) Hezbollah taking over Lebanon and Syria under Iran sponsorship
(3) Hamas take over Palestine
ONLY A FOOL CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS. I will never support evil Israel must toughen their stance at this time.
Who are the international community? And what is their job if they fail to condemn terrorist from governing a nation. Hams is responsible for the suffering of the Palestinians simple
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rizlared: Having read many news reports on this attack, I think it's fairly clear that this flotilla was created and sent to provoke the Israelis into making just such an attack, thereby allowing the many TV film crews and reporters on board to make international headline news. Take note just who the reporters were and where they were from!!
Had the Turkish really JUST wanted to get aid to Gaza, they could have followed the routes already in place for such. However, they were determined to incite trouble.
Israel, for their part, were, in my opinion, fools to have allowed this attack to go ahead, they are acting like spoilt children.
In conclusion; I condemn both sides, one side for provocation and the other for raising to the bait.
Possibly 19 (The actual death toll is not yet available) people died through pig headed stupidity.
When will mankind learn that NO-ONE WINS IN WARS!!!!!
Had the Turkish really JUST wanted to get aid to Gaza, they could have followed the routes already in place for such. However, they were determined to incite trouble.
Israel, for their part, were, in my opinion, fools to have allowed this attack to go ahead, they are acting like spoilt children.
In conclusion; I condemn both sides, one side for provocation and the other for raising to the bait.
Possibly 19 (The actual death toll is not yet available) people died through pig headed stupidity.
When will mankind learn that NO-ONE WINS IN WARS!!!!!
that is accurate indeed. i have spent hours reading and viewing today and the history that led up to this and indeed it is clearly
a manipulation that indeed turned out just as they had hoped
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mindfful: that is accurate indeed. i have spent hours reading and viewing today and the history that led up to this and indeed it is clearly
a manipulation that indeed turned out just as they had hoped
a manipulation that indeed turned out just as they had hoped
Yes complete manipulation, and the Israelis were ill advised to retaliate, like I said, Spoilt Children
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penperry: How can you cast your vote for a terrorist group to become your government and think you will leave in peace and enjoy the world eh?????????
ANC (Nelson Mandela, South Africa) was also concidered as terrorist organisation.
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Albertaghost: As right now, Hamas is as well as Al Qaeda. Surely you are not suggesting that Al Qaeda be the government for the entire world as they wish are you?
Fact - Hamas is a terrorist organization. When they are not then they are not however, at the moment, they are.
Fact - Hamas is a terrorist organization. When they are not then they are not however, at the moment, they are.
Did I say so?
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Saying this doesn't mean that I'd accept terrorism.
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emannigol: Did I say so?
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Saying this doesn't mean that I'd accept terrorism.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Saying this doesn't mean that I'd accept terrorism.
No you did not say so and no, I did not say you did. the fact is that right now they are so semantics is irreverent.
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Seems another Cargoboat is underway!
Interesting,wonder where all that money is coming from!
Interesting,wonder where all that money is coming from!
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Albertaghost: the fact is that right now they are so semantics is irreverent.
I think it's very relevant if trying to get broader image of the situation.
HAMAS got into their current position with democratic election after all. Democracy is concidered as a good thing. However, this is only if government of out liking has been chosen.
Acts of Israel are like a jackpot for HAMAS. They don't even need agitators like some Mullahs. They can get their position with democratic election. Israel has made their bed with oppressive politics and now they have to sleep in it.
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emannigol: I think it's very relevant if trying to get broader image of the situation.
HAMAS got into their current position with democratic election after all. Democracy is concidered as a good thing. However, this is only if government of out liking has been chosen.
Acts of Israel are like a jackpot for HAMAS. They don't even need agitators like some Mullahs. They can get their position with democratic election. Israel has made their bed with oppressive politics and now they have to sleep in it.
What you expect them to do,let that Iranian Proxy run rampant?HAMAS got into their current position with democratic election after all. Democracy is concidered as a good thing. However, this is only if government of out liking has been chosen.
Acts of Israel are like a jackpot for HAMAS. They don't even need agitators like some Mullahs. They can get their position with democratic election. Israel has made their bed with oppressive politics and now they have to sleep in it.
Democratically elected?
More likely,bought the Election with Iranian money!
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Perhaps you could ask for the USA to be given back to the native people, see how far you get with that. I could site hundreds of such cases.
Correct me if im wrong but wasnt it isreal thatwas attacked in the 6 day war?