Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet ( Archived) (845)

Sounds like your off to give yourself a bit of the old rogue rabbi treatment! Watch out for them now, charging down the road after you, they be wielding some real mean pork sausages!

of course we are however, those two groups share everything in common save one has formed an actual government. Al Qaeda would also be considered freedom fighters by some as they also terrorize civilians in order to remove foreigners from lands which they consider theirs, believe they own the entire middle east and wish to set up an Islamic state under strict Islamic law.



Wrong.

guerrilla warfare [(guh- ril -uh)]

Wars fought with hit-and-run tactics by small groups against an invader or against an established government.

Hamas and Al Qaeda terrorize civilians and rarely attack military targets.



Sorry. Guerrilla Warfare targeting military occupiers is called an insurgency. For example, the misnaming of the bulk of insurgents attacking US forces as 'terrorists' is wrong. Calling suicide bombers outside theaters markets and police applicant line ups terrorist is right.

Hamas fires rockets into civilian territory hoping to hit a civilian and with little or no hope whatsoever of striking a military target and as such are terrorists.

And furthermore, the ANC is not a terrorist organization rught now, at this moment in time, Hamas is. And, until things change and they renounce these tacticts, they remain a terrorist organization.

And so it goes,..two distinct positions, no hope for compromise.
Without international intervention,.nothing will change.
And with that, you can predict the inevitable. IF there ever IS a Palistine what strange, fragmented shape will it be? More than likely the IDF will systematically "liquidate" the problem.

And so it goes. Sic semper tyrannus?

Definately a lot easier, and more realistic then these nublions here eeking in and out of existance.

What will be in 5 years? In 50 years? Israel has no intention of assimilating with the international community. If one nation refuses to participate in international relations, what does that mean? What statement does that make? Is it us and them?
Is there a greater agenda? A plan? A grand design?
What has happened,....historically? When one nation, the Greeks, the Romans,..Germans,. tried to dominate? With the nuclear "card" everything takes on a dark ominous desparate
tone. We must be vigilant. Watch just how this small battle
plays out. Sic semper tyrannus.

BOO! Life will go on, with, or without those who fear war, fear losing everything they own. Property, and possessions do not mean squat, here today, gone tomorrow. You will love whats just around the corner. Batten down the hatches!

I don't want my children fenced in and systematically slaughtered.

I hate musicals. Slap=stick comedy. The stars on my flag only have five points, not six. I like "In god we trust" on my money.

It's interesting that Turkey peaceniks seem to be worrying about the Palestinians but not about what was done to their own population of Kurds. Rather ironic. Seems the Israelis want to find out exactly why the Turks have slighted their own people and feel that it is so important to force their way through a naval blockade while Israel is at war with Gaza. Somehow I think that the Israeli student flotilla will meet a military blockade trying to sail into Turkey to address their concerns regarding the treatment of the Kurds. It will be interesting to see how Turkey greets them before they even arrive and what excuse Turkey will use to condone the treatment of their Kurdish population. Now we shall see!!

Here's the newest articel out of Haaretz Jun 8 2010

Israeli students plan own flotilla to meet next Gaza convoy at sea
Student Union chairman says 400 yacht owners interested in initiative to sail to northern Turkey or Cyprus.

By Yossi Melman, Asaf Shtull-Trauring and Jack Khoury
Tags: Israel news Gaza flotilla Israel's National Student Union is planning a flotilla with hundreds of yachts from Israel to meet at sea any new humanitarian aid flotillas heading toward the Gaza Strip.

According to Boaz Toporovsky, the union's chairman, 400 yacht owners have expressed interest in the initiative, which is expected to start up in two weeks.

"Our wish is to talk with the members of the flotilla, to see if they want to talk to us, and to ask them why the problems of Israel, in Gaza and Palestine, are disturbing them," Toporovsky told Haaretz last night.

"We would ask why they are not talking about the Kurdish minority or the Armenians that were murdered or many other problems? We want to expose the truth, this hypocrisy and the absurdity."

Even though there are reports from Turkey, Iran and European activists that ideas exist for another flotilla to Gaza, it appears there are no concrete plans to break the blockade in the coming two weeks.

The Free Gaza movement has begun another round of fundraising for an aid flotilla, and there is talk that a three-ship mission will be organized.

Meanwhile, the student union and a nongovernmental organization of former navy personnel are trying to raise funds for leasing a ship that will travel to Turkey to protest in favor of the Kurds.

Toporovsky says that "we thought of an idea of sailing to Turkey or to the northern part of Cyprus, or to southern Turkey, where there is a concentration of Kurds."

There are many things we do not want, and we should live our lives always prepared for the worse that can happen. We can only do our best for children, loved ones, and of that best is also preparing them for loss. It is too late now, and what has already been put in motion according to our will, is going to be carried out. We cannot go back and fix the theoretic social policies that are now proving their worth. They stagnated the worlds economic engine, gained a loyal following of those prospering of its benefit, and they never produced anything to replace what they have used. The money was growing on trees, and they stripped the forest in unison, of their own desires.