Israel attacks Gaza aid fleet ( Archived) (845)

I agree....but it seems no one seems to understand that the so called peaceful aid fleet ran though a military block aid....so tell me who would you say is the dumb one here....

It was interesting, but of my interest, and truth in whose interest is being promoted, I looked a bit more.

May-06-2010 05:22 "(JERUSALEM / SALEM) - Gila Svirsky of Jerusalem, is the founder of the Coalition of Women for Peace and also the former CEO of the New Israel Fund. She visited the U.S. last September, and we connected with her here in Salem, Oregon. We had a wonderful interview, and in turn I provided her point of view to our viewers.

Israel's News 1 published an article titled, B'Tselem calls on Chairman Obama to pressure Israel, that portrays Gila's visit last summer in a poor light; they are angry that Gila Svirsky issued a letter to President Obama asking for help in their effort to help bring real peace to Israel,"

"Dear President Obama,

I’m an Israeli peace activist and I really need your help. I’ve been working for over twenty years to make my country – Israel – a safe place for my children, and now is the first time I think I really have a chance to get there. Because you’re in the White House.

I know we‘re on the same page: Divide the land (more or less on the pre-1967 border) so that we end up with two sovereign states – Israel and Palestine....It was a relief, Mr. President, to hear your clear statements in Cairo: "The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements…It is time for these settlements to stop.”...The United States has the power to get it done: Your military aid – some $4 billion dollars a year – gives you the right and obligation to demand that Israel stop building the settlements and start withdrawing the settlers. Without U.S. financial aid, Israel would not have the wherewithal to keep building and protecting the settlements (at the expense of our schools and hospitals). Without U.S. backing in international arenas, Israel would be alone in pursuing its policies of occupation.

Mr. President, you can write a historic chapter of peace in the Middle East, if only you don’t back down from your demand that both sides engage in good-faith negotiations. Don’t let the extremists continue to set the agenda."

"The flotilla was endorsed by EU-funded Israel Committee Against House Demolitions (ICAHD), EU- and European-funded Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR), NIF-funded Coalition of Women for Peace, European-funded Alternative Information Center (AIC), and Israeli groups New Profile, Bat Shalom, Yesh Gvul, and Zochrot.
Jeff Halper, executive director of ICAHD, is on the board of advisors of the Free Gaza Movement.
Turkish group IHH (Insani Yardim Vakfi) purchased three of the flotilla ships, including the Mavi Marmaris."

I am neither pro Israeli or Pro Plaestinian.But, the fact is the blocade exists for legitamate reasons.....The ships that ran it were just a tad overmanned and the media were ever so aware.....This was a stunt that cost wellmeaning folk their lives. And to this day Hamas still insist they will destroy Israel by any means possible even using their own supporters as pawns..... Get round the peace table and talk please all concerned.....

I`d say the IDF

They jumped the bait - unfornately it costed lives - but it certainly opened the eyes of even more people to see what is happening to the Palestinian people

For too long Israel has been able to give a damn about international laws - but this could very well end their party!

Im not sure why this is still going on....

Its been proven that its just been a propaganda exercise by Hamas and its supporters.

Boban, c'mon now. Sorry to bust your bubble sir. I enjoy your humorous postings on this site as you are truly a funny guy. However here, you are writing on a bit more of a serious note and I will respond.

You know that it is not just the Israeli politics that Hamas wants rid of. They are going for the Jews jugular veins in earnest. Sorry to be a bit graphic here but as long as the rockets continue to be shot over from Gaza toward the settlements on the other side of the fence, then it's death to the unarmed Jewish civilians that is the goal. They start with the closest that they can reach. And of course it instigates the Israeli politics a bit. Considering that Israel held restraint as 8000 rockets were shot at them before they finally marched into Gaza. I doubt you would hold off that long.

And puleez....Jews and Israelis are not looking to religiously convert anyone. Conversion is a personal choice, except in the past where Jews were forced to convert to Christianity and Islam in history or be executed. And FYI, Goy does actually mean anyone of non Jewish faith.

Consider here what Magna1 wrote in his June 5, 2010 forum on the Gaza, Hamas, Bin-Laden and all their fools forum as you will find that the rhetoric is indeed against the Jew with Hamas's constitution based on Koranic ideology. And those teachings are the constitution for the funadamentalist Islamists. Please somewhere read the Hamas Constitution as it should be online somewhere and then tell us here that they are not out to annihilate all the Jews. If you can tell us all here different that Hamas does not want to kill all the Jews based on their articles in their constitution, then I might believe believe

Magna1 forum comment: In Hamas 36 articles,there´s quite alot to raise your eyebrows,(as long you´re not a well-meaning socialist),.....Article 7:"Judgement day won´t come,until muslims fight JEWS and kill them to that level,-that when a JEW hides behind a tree or a rock,-then the tree or the stone say:"Muslim,-God´s servants,-there´s a JEW behind beind me,-kill him"......"Hamas wants a holy war against JEWS,-until Allah´s victory´s secured"....."The muslims are on their Prophets behalf commited to fight the JEWS and KILL them,wherever they might hide""Hamas is struggling to get a unity,where Allah is the highest power,-Quran is the constitution,reason and death for Allahs sake"...."Hamas won´t accept any international conferences.and all peaceful solutions--

I am also neather pro or against ...but lets face it they will never stop fighting over there and we all need to get out of it and stay out of it.....the block aid I am sure was put there because they believe it was needed ...and any one crashing though is is just plain dumb.....

No matter how You twist it, its still very interesting isn`t it?

Im not fore ore against (Jews...muslims... Christians ..ore any other )

Im not a muslim ore a Jew.... so I have no reasons to like one more than the other

I still think that the muslims are not behind the 9-11 attack ... as after this event Muslim meant automatically terrorist

do tell me something.... Who controls the Money in the USA ???

and Im saying again....

The politic of Israel was too long protected ,no matter what they did ore do