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Mar 10, 2011 10:16 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
zeus911zeus911Malta, Xlokk Malta8 Threads 2 Polls 1,000 Posts
Buffy327: Let's give zeus an accomodation for persenting those fictioius facts so accurately...Or maybe just a good ole Jack Daniel's will do...
yep, a shot of a good ole Jack Daniel's will do nicely, or better still just hand over the bottle!! drinking
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Mar 10, 2011 10:20 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Libyan state TV says three Dutch soldiers - who were taken captive at the end of February during a failed attempt to evacuate two civilians by navy helicopter - are to be freed.
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Mar 10, 2011 10:21 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
zeus911: Libyan state TV says three Dutch soldiers - who were taken captive at the end of February during a failed attempt to evacuate two civilians by navy helicopter - are to be freed.
yay handshake cheers
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Mar 10, 2011 10:24 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
if u guys realize it. the president is letting this nut case kill his own people and if we don't do anything every nation in the world including our enemies will say that america doesn't care about helping out people who are in need of help. this president is timid when it comes to helping people except if he can profit from it politically
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Mar 10, 2011 10:26 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
john12196341: if u guys realize it. the president is letting this nut case kill his own people and if we don't do anything every nation in the world including our enemies will say that america doesn't care about helping out people who are in need of help. this president is timid when it comes to helping people except if he can profit from it politically
It isnt Americas duty,or europes duty to go where we havnt been invited.The People have asked us not to enter,they say its thier war,for thier freedom.We must respect that.
They have asked NATO to assist in a no fly zone,and Nato is Co-ordinating it now.cheers
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Mar 10, 2011 10:29 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Dmire: I think man ZEUS911 is here to tell us what is happening in libya.But he is not forcing anyone to believe him.Please if you dont believe him keep off his thread.Not everyone is disinteresred in what he has been saying.


time4fun4u: He does a brilliant job,and its a pity those that dive onto this thread just to push some political agenda forward,dont realise thats not what the thread is about.


Thanks for clarifying what this thread is all about... thumbs up
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Mar 10, 2011 10:33 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
i beg to differ the rebels are pleading this nation for help and the present administration is avoiding them. this wll end yo as another rwanda when thousands was killed by the government. even the democrats are asking for a no fly zone and the president,secretary of state and secretary of defence is saying no. this nation has to lead the way and say heck to russia and to china. clinton did the right thing when he established a no fly zone in bosina and that dictator was held accounable for his actions. also the un won't budge on it. this is genocide people and this nation will be held accountable if it doesn't act militarily. it is time for the president to get off his butt and live up to his words. he said that the nut case in libya must go and we must help the people to topple him
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Mar 10, 2011 10:39 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Spain's Foreign Minister Trinidad Jiminez says Spain won't follow France in officially recognising Libya's rebel Transitional National Council. "Madrid recognises states not governments," he says, and such recognition had to be agreed EU-wide.

Malta is also proving cautious - Maltese Foreign Minister Tonio Borg said this afternoon that there does not appear to be a concerted EU move to grant diplomatic recognition to the rebels in Libya, thus implying that Malta would only do so if a concerted EU decision is taken in this regard.
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Mar 10, 2011 10:41 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
zeus911: Spain's Foreign Minister Trinidad Jiminez says Spain won't follow France in officially recognising Libya's rebel Transitional National Council. "Madrid recognises states not governments," he says, and such recognition had to be agreed EU-wide.

Malta is also proving cautious - Maltese Foreign Minister Tonio Borg said this afternoon that there does not appear to be a concerted EU move to grant diplomatic recognition to the rebels in Libya, thus implying that Malta would only do so if a concerted EU decision is taken in this regard.
I believe it has to be agreed across the board,otherwise the recognition carries no wieght.
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Mar 10, 2011 10:48 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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john12196341: i beg to differ the rebels are pleading this nation for help and the present administration is avoiding them. this wll end yo as another rwanda when thousands was killed by the government. even the democrats are asking for a no fly zone and the president,secretary of state and secretary of defence is saying no. this nation has to lead the way and say heck to russia and to china. clinton did the right thing when he established a no fly zone in bosina and that dictator was held accounable for his actions. also the un won't budge on it. this is genocide people and this nation will be held accountable if it doesn't act militarily. it is time for the president to get off his butt and live up to his words. he said that the nut case in libya must go and we must help the people to topple him
I agree that some action IS required and sooner rather than later.

Just earlier BBC reported Mustafa Abdul Jalil, head of the rebel council, to have urged foreign powers to implement a no-fly zone and a no-sailing zone off the coast. Mr Abdul Jalil said they needed weapons, and called on more countries to recognise them as Libya's leaders.

The thing is I don't think that this should be a US or US-led effort but rather a United Nations intervention.
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Mar 10, 2011 10:52 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
toxicauratoxicaurasummit, Kentucky USA3 Threads 1 Polls 749 Posts
john12196341: i beg to differ the rebels are pleading this nation for help and the present administration is avoiding them. this wll end yo as another rwanda when thousands was killed by the government. even the democrats are asking for a no fly zone and the president,secretary of state and secretary of defence is saying no. this nation has to lead the way and say heck to russia and to china. clinton did the right thing when he established a no fly zone in bosina and that dictator was held accounable for his actions. also the un won't budge on it. this is genocide people and this nation will be held accountable if it doesn't act militarily. it is time for the president to get off his butt and live up to his words. he said that the nut case in libya must go and we must help the people to topple him

Countries as well have to stay well within the boundaries of the law.

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Mar 10, 2011 10:54 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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in the meantime have a look at this Al Jazeera report on the possibility of setting up a no-fly zone and of Gaddafi's options:

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Mar 10, 2011 10:59 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
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john12196341: if u guys realize it. the president is letting this nut case kill his own people and if we don't do anything every nation in the world including our enemies will say that america doesn't care about helping out people who are in need of help. this president is timid when it comes to helping people except if he can profit from it politically


uhhhh excuse me, U did not go there..As opposed to the former who went everywhere for what????

frustrated frustrated
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Mar 10, 2011 11:11 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Al Jazeera's Tony Birtley reports from Ras Lanuf:

"We were travelling with one of the commanders who told me that all of his men were killed by pro-Gaddafi forces when they came into the town, so its pretty heavy fighting there.

A lot of them have run away, but there is a hard core of opposition fighters who are going back in to fight. There are dozens that have been killed, and many more wounded, but a lot of the bodies still remain behind in Ras Lanuf.

We actually stood on a hillock and watched the operation in progress. Pummelling by artillery, mortars, and then by the air force. And then the attack came from both the sea and the west of the town, and it was quite brutal when it came. We were told that patients in the hospital, which had already been shelled earlier, were shot. Of course there is no independent corroboration of that, but it sounded like it was pretty ugly in there.
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Mar 10, 2011 12:03 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Gaddafi's son Saif al Islam has declared in an interview that the captured Dutch crew will be released to Maltese and Greek officials in Tripoli. The crew consist of 2 men and 1 woman.

Their release comes after Dutch diplomats intervention from Malta assisted by Maltese authorities.
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Mar 10, 2011 12:20 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
Buffy327Buffy327Somewhere, Georgia USA5 Threads 1,527 Posts
thumbs up Well that is something...
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Mar 10, 2011 12:22 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
When big or rich countries want a war, they can always make it happen, and find a way to blame the poor country they are attacking.





US foreign policy has long included "regime change" as one of its favored options when another country opposes the US regime's agenda.




Some US regimes have even intentionally sacrificed American forces just in order to blame a country that they wanted to attack.

Such tactics are called False Flag attacks.

Remember the USS Liberty.
The US Johnson administration and Israel conspired to sink an American ship and blame Egypt as a pretext to allow the US to enter the 6 day war and bomb Egypt.



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Mar 10, 2011 12:27 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
Buffy327Buffy327Somewhere, Georgia USA5 Threads 1,527 Posts
SIGHHH, Careful Who U call BIG AND RICH...RAY BOY...How about moving out of the past and over here to REALITY with the rest of the world.
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Mar 10, 2011 2:02 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Dmire: I think man ZEUS911 is here to tell us what is happening in libya.But he is not forcing anyone to believe him.Please if you dont believe him keep off his thread.Not everyone is disinteresred in what he has been saying.


Well yes he is here to tell us what he wants us to believe.
And certainly we should all discriminate between what we choose to believe and what we reject as disinformation.

But your idea that we should avoid threads by posters whose opinions we don't agree with is frankly nonsensical.

Debate and discussion are the very heart of a forum. Especially one dealing with current events and politics.

So, sorry, but I will certainly keep responding and exposing (to the best of my ability) what I consider to be pure disinformation.
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Mar 10, 2011 2:31 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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All I can say ray is prove it. Prove I have said anything untrue. So far all we've gotten from you is a lot of hot air and a sign of a delusional mind. Your rejection of these events is an insult to the people who have lost their lives...
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