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Mar 9, 2011 9:37 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Paldi5
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zeus911: Forces loyal to Col Gaddafi have been continuing a major offensive in the western city of Zawiya. The government has cut communication and journalists are not allowed to visit the area but there are reports of heavy artillery being used as more tanks move in. There are also reports of more shelling in the oil port of Ras Lanuf.


He's grabbing back as much as he can before the cease fire.
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Mar 9, 2011 11:01 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
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A convoy of trucks from the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) has entered Libya and is due to arrive in the eastern port city of Benghazi today.

WFP is mobilising food for the hungry as part of a US$39.2 million emergency operation designed to provide food assistance to more than one million people in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia over a three-month period.
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Mar 9, 2011 11:31 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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More on the Libyan planes which left Tripoli this morning:

The Libyan under-secretary for international cooperation Mohammed Taher Siyala was on one of three aircraft carrying Gaddafi emissaries which left from Tripoli this morning. The aircraft came to Malta.

Mr Siyala held talks with Maltese Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi, the government announced, were he explained the Libyan government’s position on the recent events.

During the meeting, the Prime Minister reiterated the Maltese government’s position as stated publicly, and insisted that all violence has to stop immediately.

The plane which went to Cairo carried the Libyan deputy defence minister, Abdelrahman al-Zawi, for talks with Egyptian government officials and the Arab League. The third plane is reported to have headed to Brussels.
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Mar 9, 2011 11:48 AM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
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The Libyan regime has offered a nearly $500,000 bounty for the capture of the chairman of the opposition National Council, Mustafa Abdel Jalil, according to state TV.

"The General Administration for Criminal Investigations is offering a reward of 500,000 Libyan dinars for any person who captures and hands over the spy named Abdel Jalil and a reward of 200,000 Libyan dinars
for anyone who provides information leading to his capture," the report said.

An engineer working at a major east Libyan oil terminal said air strikes had hit the Sidrah port and destroyed storage tanks as well as facilities such as the power and water plants.
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Mar 9, 2011 12:56 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
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Military council meeting

Al Jazeera's Ayman Mohyeldin, reporting from Cairo, said the private jet landed on a military airstrip around 1pm local time, carrying al-Zawi and an official.

"As soon as the plane landed, those on board ... were immediately whisked away by private cars," he said.

He said Essam Sharaf, the Egyptian prime minister, cut a cabinet meeting short to go to a meeting with the Egyptian military council.

The Arab League is due to meet on Saturday to discuss the possibility of imposing a no-fly zone over Libya. Libyan delegates have been barred from attending the League's meetings addressing the situation in the country.

Karl Stango-Navarra, a journalist based in Valletta, Malta, told Al Jazeera that a delegation of Libyan officials had met senior Maltese officials on Wednesday before continuing to Portugal.

"We have an escalating diplomatic situation where Gaddafi seems to be seeking his friends in the sense of who is closest, both in terms of trade and political ties, so he can can find a solution to the situation," he said.

An EU source said "there is a plane going to Portugal with a moderate member" of the Gaddafi regime.

The emissary was planning to meet Luis Amado, the Portuguese foreign minister, according to the source.
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Mar 9, 2011 1:00 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
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8:00pm

A group calling themselves Topple The Tyrants have occupied the £10m London Mansion of Saif Al Islam Gaddafi, in solidarity with the Libyan people and their struggle to overthrow Gaddafi's government.

A spokesman for the group said "We didn't trust the British government to properly seize the Gaddafi regime's corrupt assets, so we took matters into our own hands."

The spokesman said "Gaddafi, Mubarak, the House of Saud and numerous other tyrants use front companies in British protectorates to avoid paying tax and above all to protect their anonymity.

"Britain actively assists tyrants, corporations and the super rich to rob their people blind. Our aim is to make sure that the assets stolen by Gaddafi are returned to the Libyan people and don't disappear into the pockets of governments or corporations."
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Mar 9, 2011 1:40 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Paldi5
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toxicaura: 8:00pm

A group calling themselves Topple The Tyrants have occupied the £10m London Mansion of Saif Al Islam Gaddafi, in solidarity with the Libyan people and their struggle to overthrow Gaddafi's government.

A spokesman for the group said "We didn't trust the British government to properly seize the Gaddafi regime's corrupt assets, so we took matters into our own hands."

The spokesman said "Gaddafi, Mubarak, the House of Saud and numerous other tyrants use front companies in British protectorates to avoid paying tax and above all to protect their anonymity.

"Britain actively assists tyrants, corporations and the super rich to rob their people blind. Our aim is to make sure that the assets stolen by Gaddafi are returned to the Libyan people and don't disappear into the pockets of governments or corporations."


Or their own pockets either.

That's a pretty strong comment against Britain. Do you think it is true?
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Mar 9, 2011 2:20 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
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Paldi5: Or their own pockets either.

That's a pretty strong comment against Britain. Do you think it is true?


I incline not to believe anyone who called themselves Topple the Tyrants...If Britian has no intention of ever returning the money why would they even tell (and how much) they had seized...and where is their evidence that Britians assist tyrants...Mud Slinging Time....scold
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Mar 9, 2011 2:25 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Buffy327: I incline not to believe anyone who called themselves Topple the Tyrants...If Britian has no intention of ever returning the money why would they even tell (and how much) they had seized...and where is their evidence that Britians assist tyrants...Mud Slinging Time....
thumbs up

I agree with you.
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Mar 9, 2011 2:30 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
toxicaura
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Paldi5: Or their own pockets either.

That's a pretty strong comment against Britain. Do you think it is true?
I would agree,sounds like someone looking to loot and using a smoke screen
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Mar 9, 2011 5:55 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Zawiya is reported to have fallen to Gaddafi's troops. Libyan state television has shown pro-Gaddafi supporters celebrating their victory in the centre of the western city of Zawiya, following days of fierce fighting to dislodge rebels.
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Mar 9, 2011 5:57 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
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zeus911: Zawiya is reported to have fallen to Gaddafi's troops. Libyan state television has shown pro-Gaddafi supporters celebrating their victory in the centre of the western city of Zawiya, following days of fierce fighting to dislodge rebels.


OMG...so sad. so friggin sad....frustrated
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Mar 9, 2011 5:58 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Paldi5
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toxicaura: I would agree,sounds like someone looking to loot and using a smoke screen


Let them pitch a tent or park a motorhome outside the gate to watch the place and keep unauthorized looters out is one thing, but to let them inside... not a good idea.
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Mar 9, 2011 6:00 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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BBC reports that 3 members of its Arabic team in Tripoli were arrested, blindfolded, handcuffed and beaten while reporting on the situation in Libya. The journalists were threatened with mock executions with live bullets fired past their heads, after being detained by Col Gaddafi's forces.

Reason is apparently their reporting on the fate of some of Zawiya's residents.
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Mar 9, 2011 6:06 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
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CNN showing some of the battles happening earlier today...Gov officials are slaughtering those folks and destroying those towns..Massive artillery.
CNN reports Oppositional Leader is coming on in a few minutes specifically to request the help and assistance from anyone, anywhere, NOW...
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Mar 9, 2011 6:07 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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Buffy327: OMG...so sad. so friggin sad....
yes, very sad indeed... unfortunately I cannot confirm much about this update but Italian Media reported that thousands of pro-Gaddafi supporters were litterally partying in a football stadium to celebrate...
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Mar 9, 2011 6:08 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
patmac
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zeus911: BBC reports that 3 members of its Arabic team in Tripoli were arrested, blindfolded, handcuffed and beaten while reporting on the situation in Libya. The journalists were threatened with mock executions with live bullets fired past their heads, after being detained by Col Gaddafi's forces.

Reason is apparently their reporting on the fate of some of Zawiya's residents.


Watched that report on the news and it was pretty nasty. They reckon other folk had far worse treatment than they had.

Makes you wonder what the future holds sigh
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Mar 9, 2011 6:09 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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More on the 3 BBC reporters: They were detained about 10km south of Zawiyah on Monday by Gaddafi loyalists.

The three said they were repeatedly assaulted, and held in various locations. They were then released after 21 hours and apparently have left Libya. Chris Cobb-Smith, one of the staff, said a solider fired a gun close to his head.
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Mar 9, 2011 6:16 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
Buffy327
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Well I would say any attempt to negotiate is out the window or was wishful thinking on the part of the anti Gaddafi.
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Mar 9, 2011 6:18 PM CST Libya - Latest Updates Part II
zeus911
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The outlook does seem very negative with rebels losing ground but we should not underestimate the impact of more loyal forces changing sides. At this point the success of this revoltion does seem to depend on such a possibilty, short of a foreign intervention or assistance.

However that said, do not underestimate the import of this morning's move by Tripoli to send envoys to Malta, Egypt, Brussels and now Portugal. The fact that Gaddafi is trying to negotiate politically signifies he isn't so confident after all.

This move was most likely a desperate effort to avoid any key decisions at a European level on imposing a no-fly zone or taking other actions knowing very well that this could change the balance of things.
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