Should there be a license to use the internet? ( Archived) (194)

Jun 7, 2018 7:33 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
rizlared: Good question

I would surmise that everyone has equal access to freedom of speech, as defined by their specific location.
However, when that freedom, can cause harm to another individual, that crosses a line in my opinion. So the instigator needs to have some form of restriction.
I doubt very much that those who died in awful warfare to preserve and continue Freedom in the west, would be happy at the way Freedom of Speech is being abused by so many.
I guess it all comes down to education, those who are educated rarely if ever, misuse Freedom of speech, unless for an ulterior motive.
You're suport of censorship on freedom of speach reminds me a lot on forma Yugoslavia dictatorship system = political correctness & you know what happened ...it failed & it will always fail !
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Jun 7, 2018 7:36 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Rachie14: The thing is nobody really has a problem with others disagreeing with them. It's how they disagree with someone. Especially where there is ill intention, which often is what comes with hate speeches. Hate speeches are a form of suppression if you think about it and they're not really needed. Can people not make a point of their views without making it so another person can't? Yeah and I'm 44 and I rebel sometimes but doesn't mean I have to do it the wrong way, when I do I am doing to make a point.

I understand your reasoning based on stereotyping a country, I personally don't agree with that, or restricting their ability to voice an opinion. It is always about how you do it with me and what your intent is. Because it is sadly being used for the wrong intent.
rolling on the floor laughing and your traying to surpress other people view points so desperately hard while preaching all this. rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 7, 2018 7:55 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts


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Trolling for a cause.
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Jun 7, 2018 7:59 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Miwagi: Riz a much better solution would be to start your own website where you can be the censor. If anyone says anything you don't like you can disappear it. The owners do that here already.
It would seem my very simply articulated suggestion went straight over your head and in doing so, makes an ideal example for supporting the original idea.

If people cannot be bothered to actually READ and understand a post, why on earth do they think anyone would take any notice of the comments?

All to often people cherry pick comments and statements just to make it support their own deception.

But thank you for trying anyway
cheers
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Jun 7, 2018 9:24 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Control freak.
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Jun 7, 2018 10:58 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Rachie14: I think the information is portrayed from a personal point of view. This can even boil down to the media or the person advocating their point. The issue is how far are you willing to go to prove a point. After all you research fake news, have a personal experience of the topic. But is there really any need to be obtuse and obnoxious to the degree that you are intentionally creating a problem? To me the answer is no, that does not remove anyone's right to freedom of speech. But removes the need to display certain behaviours which are to intentionally offened and oppress anothers view.

We do change as a society, even in the virtual world of this site. My question is what direction are we going with that change?
Hey, Rach, wave

I have no idea where we going, but I hope next generation can have a better life. and I am sure they will.

Regarding your point of fighting "fake news", we can not change a dogmatic person. You can try to lay guilt or shame on extremists, thinking it will somehow prompt them to modify their behavior online - Never worked or will work, as they need have to have a big sense of right and wrong and an equally. and they dont.

The only way to stop them, is to not interact (popularity), show the real facts and stop the nonsense. and move on.. They are boring people.
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Jun 7, 2018 11:48 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlared: Again, you really need to read and understand the original post before commenting.

Nowhere have I suggested anything that comes close to your suggestion.
Please read it again.
No.I understood it completely.

You want to limit and categorize people. What if those people are strong in some areas and weak in others?

The long term would actually ruin chances of them gaining actual information.
We have to learn to deal with all of the bad as well as any good we can find or come across.
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Jun 7, 2018 11:59 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Even you and I Riz.

agree or disagree, I still like reading what you have to say.

That's what makes a heated discussion or debate. Or maybe other avenues for research.

handshake
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Jun 7, 2018 10:34 PM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Draegoneer: No.I understood it completely.

You want to limit and categorize people. What if those people are strong in some areas and weak in others?

The long term would actually ruin chances of them gaining actual information.
We have to learn to deal with all of the bad as well as any good we can find or come across.
I don't want to limit or categorise anyone, any more than gaining a driving license would do the same.
If you want to drive a car you must take a test to ensure you understand traffic rule safety etc, my suggestion is that to use social media sites there should be a similar system.
So that the vulnerable, easily manipulated or downright dangerous are not allowed access to those specific sites.

I really think people need to take a good hard look at how the internet and especially social sites, are being used for nefarious propaganda and ulterior motives, to undermine social structure and cause its collapse.
Without doubt, all western Governments are looking at ways to regulate/censure the whole web not just youtube/facebook etc. and that would be a disaster in my opinion.

Self-regulation is the way to go, but that requires a degree of common sense and responsibility, which as can be seen here on CS, is sadly lacking.
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Jun 8, 2018 2:53 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rainbowdream2017
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Jun 8, 2018 3:02 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
rizlared: I don't want to limit or categorise anyone, any more than gaining a driving license would do the same.
If you want to drive a car you must take a test to ensure you understand traffic rule safety etc, my suggestion is that to use social media sites there should be a similar system.
So that the vulnerable, easily manipulated or downright dangerous are not allowed access to those specific sites.

I really think people need to take a good hard look at how the internet and especially social sites, are being used for nefarious propaganda and ulterior motives, to undermine social structure and cause its collapse.
Without doubt, all western Governments are looking at ways to regulate/censure the whole web not just youtube/facebook etc. and that would be a disaster in my opinion.

Self-regulation is the way to go, but that requires a degree of common sense and responsibility, which as can be seen here on CS, is sadly lacking.
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Jun 8, 2018 3:36 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlared: Looking at some of the recent threads, it crossed my mind that maybe time has come to not exactly censure the internet, I am against that. But maybe users should be required to pass a psychiatric assessment
Couldn't agree more handshake laugh
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Jun 8, 2018 3:41 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
1400 girls abused and the poster thinks it is funny, that tells the real storybarf
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Jun 8, 2018 3:43 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
serene56: Couldn't agree more
Can't agree more, some people should not be allowed within 200ft of a keyboard.
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Jun 8, 2018 7:54 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
Rachie14: You are representing what he is saying. Someone who has no self control. You don't want to discuss the topic you just want to add discord. The OP is not against topics being discussed. It's people like you.



Which why you continually post what is irrelevant to the subject.
Do you call your video of parental relation with child irrelevant- considering that we are all adults here ?
You just want to be RIGHT by any means to shut any sensible discussion and IRONICALLY your left.
rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 8, 2018 8:03 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
“While we are free to choose our actions, we are not free to choose the consequences of our actions”.

When we join CS or any online platform , we pretty much agree that the concept of “freedom of speech” will be abused and restricted (mods, terms, etc) . Its a choice, and we have to accept the consequences of our choice.

Regarding CS, what I like about CS is that it is a mirror of society/world. It is not a social club nor a "Group therapy", even if it might provide both. CS is a social platform full of babble, (even if means post out of context -done that too), filed with nice people who just don't know how to express themselves, or dont have the patience to "type", as it is not what they are here for. Regarding forums/blogs, most people on CS offers nothing but supportive opinions, and no matter what we say, or how trivial they may seem.

But there is also a negative side. As an open platform, CS is also filled with many uneducated, demeaning, creepy people who berate individuals/race/credos in order to feel better about their own lives, a life in which they have little or no control or confidence. Nothing we can do about them, as they live life blindly through a narrow, dogmatic coward context.

as Voltaire said, "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere."

Life has meaning, but that comes from within. There is nothing that gives direction or purpose to our life besides our own free will (or a perfect illusion of free will). we are responsible for our actions.

enjoy life.

cheers
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Jun 8, 2018 8:06 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Rachie14
Rachie14Rachie14Stafford, Staffordshire, England UK1 Threads 2,330 Posts
rainbowdream2017: Do you call your video of parental relation with child irrelevant- considering that we are all adults here ?
You just want to be RIGHT by any means to shut any sensible discussion and IRONICALLY your left.
You have your own thread. Please use it so people can make an informed choice in which discussions they would like to participate in. Rather than hijacking others threads.

Riz is not acting like you are on this thread on your thread. Perhaps try affording him the same respect. Rather than acting like the child on the video.

That was represented on the basis of how children are learning to respect others in society. That child was behaving like that because the man in the video had just caught him vandalising cars.

Which is no different that you are on this topic. In how you disrespect the OP by carrying on as you are. Also, yourself. Rather than causing destruction wherever you go. Act your age, not your shoe size.
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Jun 8, 2018 8:14 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Miwagi
MiwagiMiwagiFlyover, Kentucky USA47 Threads 2 Polls 1,753 Posts
This must be a uniquely American point of view these days.
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Jun 8, 2018 8:20 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
serene56: Couldn't agree more
I agree too and what riz said.
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Jun 8, 2018 8:35 AM CST Should there be a license to use the internet?
rizlaredonline today!
rizlaredonline today!rizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Miwagi: This must be a uniquely American point of view these days.
Why uniquely American, you think America has sole custody of Freedom of Speech?
It may come as a surprise but in the 1940's there was a war in Europe that was all about Freedom, so if there is any continent that can lay claim to fighting for Freedom that can ONLY be Europe.
Moreover, the comment in your picture is EXACTLY what is happening in Europe right now, and the USA is demeaning that ideology.

Oh and for your information, the quotation you posted was by a BRITISH woman in the early 1900s, Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
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