bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
Raymond1953: I'm the most unselfish person you'll ever meet. One of my biggest faults is overextending myself and doing for others before doing for myself. I know I should stand up more for myself, but I'm always trying to get people to like me. The low self esteem I have stems from my mother who scared and threatened to kill me all my years as a child growing up. I was still terrified of her as she lay on her deathbed. So now she's dead, and here I am hoping she's burning in hell. Does that make me a bad son?
Guilt as a defence against a deeper angst reflects a lack of permission to be oneself. It reflects the incalculable power of early conditioning. And it offers a chance for persons to recover the initiative in their lives. In the real world, to be a person of value rather than an emotional chameleon, choices perforce must be made and pleasing others cannot be top of the agenda. The angst that surges from below is experienced as overwhelming precisely because it dates from a time of one's great childhood vunerability. Because that energy is never lost but reides in the unconcious, it can spring forward with paralyzing power.
Sometimes people are forced into a difficult choice...anxiety or depression. If we move forward, we my be flooded with anxiety. If we do not move forward we will sufer depression. In such a difficult choice one must choose anxiety, for anxiety is at least a path of potential growth, depression is a stagnation and defeat of life.
Raymond1953: I've been dealing with depression issues for most of my life but it seems to be getting worse with each day regardless of medication and therapy. I have no real friends to speak of. That is, the kind of friends that will be there when I go through these really dark horrible times. I'm always trying to fight back this feeling like I want to end it all. I'm really scared and extremely lonely.
Hi Raymond we all go through some depression at stages throughout our lives i believe - i have a couple of times through situations that have cropped up im my life - maybe ur answer is to approach your feeling off wanting to def it and allow your thoughts of this feeling to flow freely- an affirmation i heard a few years ago i allow my thoughts to flow freely the past is over i am at peace'- i found it worked for me - its just a 'thought' i sincerely hope your life brightens up for you and you can resolve your issues with depression i also believe its mind over matter medication does not cure the problem it deceives u into believing it does . Best Regards
Maybe consider visiting your doctor again and seeing if a med change or adjustment would help. Consider a support group. You may feel alone, but as you can see from the posts, may many people go threw similiar life events. Best wishes that you feel better soon.
Raymond1953: Pain from feeling like a total failure. Lost love, divorce, music career down the drain. No support system..as if no one I know in my life cares I'm rudderless
Have you considered seeking help from any Depression Support Groups,Locally and on the Web? Might find something on Google.
Get into the God word the bible! His word will heal you! he has healed me! The devil wants you to feel lonely and scared. But Jesus can fix all that! I have been were you are at and there was times I would lay in the bed for days and didn't want to talk to anyone or go out ! Your friend is going to be Jesus and then everything your heart desires will be given to you if ijavascript:emot('');t is our Father will!
Raymond1953: I've been dealing with depression issues for most of my life but it seems to be getting worse with each day regardless of medication and therapy. I have no real friends to speak of. That is, the kind of friends that will be there when I go through these really dark horrible times. I'm always trying to fight back this feeling like I want to end it all. I'm really scared and extremely lonely.
Raymond1953: I've been dealing with depression issues for most of my life but it seems to be getting worse with each day regardless of medication and therapy. I have no real friends to speak of. That is, the kind of friends that will be there when I go through these really dark horrible times. I'm always trying to fight back this feeling like I want to end it all. I'm really scared and extremely lonely.
Raymond my friend, we all go through times of depression, and I know what it's like to be lonely, but have faith my friend and believe things will get better, and they will...
Be confident in yourself, when you wake up in the morning take a little time to look around, breath life in and be thankful that you are blessed with it, don't just think you are, but know you are a special person.. walk outside and look at nature, appreciate it in all it's majesty, smell the flowers, listen to the song of the birds, such a beautiful melody...
Take comfort in knowing my friend that you are an important piece of the puzzle in the grand scheam of life.. most of all love yourself, and then you can love others..
There are many good books and tapes that will help!
Go to Whileshire book Co. online. Sign as a dealer! (NO COST!) yOU CAN GET THE BOOKS 50% OFF. Melvin Powers owns the company!
Get Psycho-Cybernetics by DR.Maxwell Maltz. It is the best self help book around on how the mind works. Easy reading. It is an owners manual for head!
It takes about three weeks of positive efforts to start changing negative things in the head. Then it improves from there.
Get Books or tapes on Goals setting, motivation,self esteem....etc.
Go to Zig Ziglar's site and see if they still have the book "See you at the top'" and tape course. "Born to win" tape course and Book.
Tony Robbins is good but you need to know basics to be able to understand Tony Robbins better. But get his stuff later!
There are tons of such books and tapes around. Look in the back of the books at other recommended books.
If you will put these things in your head with a passion. You will change your life big time.
Also learn about selling as far as what motivates people to buy. With all the information you will understand that other people are messed up and you were not ever as bad as they made you feel.
There is a joke about two guys that both said they were Elvis and they always fought. One day they are the best of friends. They had understood that the other one was crazy! You need to understand that about others.
While you are worrying about your breath being bad....they are worrying about their arm pits stinking. People have problems and they dump on others to cover up....but inside they are messed up.
You will find you are a damn good person when you get your self esteem built up and with what you learn...you will want to help others because you have been in that dark place and the dark tunnel alone and made it. But most will not listen and never get the books and fight for it. They had rather let life give them garbage than to move.
Raymond1953: I've been dealing with depression issues for most of my life but it seems to be getting worse with each day regardless of medication and therapy. I have no real friends to speak of. That is, the kind of friends that will be there when I go through these really dark horrible times. I'm always trying to fight back this feeling like I want to end it all. I'm really scared and extremely lonely.
, It's FREE, and absolutely worth your attention. Just go take a look. it is absolutely awesome. you'll get exercises to do, and it motivates you to be a better you. take action. that is the first step in achieving success in anything you wish to partake in. Feeling angry or upset at your past is not doing any good, yet you must acknowledge they DID exist, yet let them go. someone said go yell at the top of a mountain. Why not just yell right here, right now, and get it over with. Live my good friend, because there is never a time when tnings are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad that we can't look it in the eye and say............" well! there's no where to go but UP! you can do it, and the website
can help get you on track to a better you. I have no doubt in my mind. best to you, and as everyone also mentioned..........................here, you've got friends, and just think about this too. We'll never ask you for money, we'll never take your girl, we'll never raid your fridge, all we'll do is support you in what you choose to enjoy doing with us all. OK, so every once in a while we'll get into a heated discussion about hopeful presidents, and such touching subjects as religion, and who gets in the shower first, yet, we are here for you, so I extend my hand in freindship to say, come join the party....there are some great friends to be had out here, and they welcome you with open arms. please do accept our extended hands, and grab hold. You've just made a great number of freinds. see! you've accomplaished a great deal in a day or so. what can you accomplish tomorrow. can you see it getting better already? I think we all can, let's do it together.
Raymond1953: I'm the most unselfish person you'll ever meet. One of my biggest faults is overextending myself and doing for others before doing for myself. I know I should stand up more for myself, but I'm always trying to get people to like me. The low self esteem I have stems from my mother who scared and threatened to kill me all my years as a child growing up. I was still terrified of her as she lay on her deathbed. So now she's dead, and here I am hoping she's burning in hell. Does that make me a bad son?
As far as your mother. She worked hard for what she gets from you. Due to something screwed up in her....nothing of your fault. She worked hard to earn how you feel about her......if a person works for something...let them get their pay. For your own heart! You need to learn and then see the things that drove her to be that way. When you understand her problems then you feel sorry for her and know she had a problem. But you will aleays have bad feelings about her. But with time the edges will soften and you can stop them at the moment they pop in. Most of all, learn not to let her things make you do wrong things to your loved ones. Clean up inside you so you don't mess up with others. Don't worry it takes time....get the books and fight for your new life that others stoled from you.
To stop things that pop in your head about her.....learn the eraser technic that Tony Robbins teaches.
EnnailleLeeds, West Yorkshire, England UK167 posts
Hi Raymond
I am going to give my opinion based in what happened to me...I've been in the same situation as you regarding depression and when I went to see the doctor he gave me Prozac I had some but felt worse. Honestly that would not help me one day I woke up I looked myself in the mirror and a questions came into my head - what am I doing with my life?
I had a option Raymond. Stay in that miserable state blaming others feeling sorry for myself or change my life. Even if my life isnt that perfect still I want to live and make the most of my life.
First forgive those who hurted you - let the hatred go as isnt doing u any good.
Fall in love with urself - I am sure there is so many things that you are good at. Rediscover urself. Smile even if you dont feel like. Be around positive things and when sadness try to take over find something silly and laugh about it.
Reality is the only person who can help you - its urself.
Look around you - there are so many people in worse situations than ourselfs (people who are sick and know that there arent any cure for their illness) they dont have a option , its not something they can change - But you can!!!
Stay in the forums this is a good therapy. You will not feel alone also you will find several funny remarks to laugh about.
bodleing: Guilt as a defence against a deeper angst reflects a lack of permission to be oneself. It reflects the incalculable power of early conditioning. And it offers a chance for persons to recover the initiative in their lives. In the real world, to be a person of value rather than an emotional chameleon, choices perforce must be made and pleasing others cannot be top of the agenda. The angst that surges from below is experienced as overwhelming precisely because it dates from a time of one's great childhood vunerability. Because that energy is never lost but reides in the unconcious, it can spring forward with paralyzing power.
Sometimes people are forced into a difficult choice...anxiety or depression. If we move forward, we my be flooded with anxiety. If we do not move forward we will sufer depression. In such a difficult choice one must choose anxiety, for anxiety is at least a path of potential growth, depression is a stagnation and defeat of life.Good luck.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
Ray...hang in there. You need to get a meds change. Either increase what you are on, or change your meds (done under a doctor's supervision).
Like others have said, keep talking in forums. Not about depression all the time, but other subjects. Helps to keep the mind busy with other things.
Get out of the house more.
Get more sleep.
I was diagnosed 30 years ago with bipolar disease, and to this day, no meds have worked. But I keep trying new ones. Good luck and keep fighting it...don't let it win.
Hi Raymond1953, I have battle depression since I was a teenager. I been in control. There is no cure for depression. Here is my advice. 1, Stay way from people who are always mad and giving other people a hard time. Avoid those people like a person who has a heart condition would stay away from eating Pork Chops and Greasy Food. 2, Try to hang around with people who truly like you and understand you. Also try to be with someone who has a positive attitude and treats everybody with respect. 3, Laugh, tell some jokes. That will help alot.
There is a huge difference between the normal times of depression or feeling blue and being clinically depressed. It sound like you need to check yourself into a facility for a period of time to get on the right meds, the right dosage and a heavy dose of therapy. Thinking that you can get through this by yourself or with a bit of support from people around you is a huge mistake.
Raymond can i ask what u make from the replies to your thread do u think u know what ur next step is? do u feel any better from hearing others points of view? do u think u will take anything that has been said on board ? u havent replied once - im just intrigued to know your thoughts?
Raymond1953: I've been dealing with depression issues for most of my life but it seems to be getting worse with each day regardless of medication and therapy. I have no real friends to speak of. That is, the kind of friends that will be there when I go through these really dark horrible times. I'm always trying to fight back this feeling like I want to end it all. I'm really scared and extremely lonely.
Just a suggestion, usually it helps to talk with others that are experiencing the same issues.
You might want to check out a site called realmentalhealth.com
not a joke. it is a site with many people with the same and many other problems.
Hello dear Ray, -as you can see there are a lot of folks here whom are really empathizing with your call for --especially when you told us: "The low self esteem I have stems from my mother who scared and threatened to kill me all my years as a child growing up. I was still terrified of her as she lay on her deathbed. So now she's dead, and here I am hoping she's burning in hell. Does that make me a bad son?"... Thus naturally you, as anyone would, deeply resented her lack of tenderness for you in her inane quest to get-back at your father by hurting You! This issue, plus as a band-drummer, your likely use of so-called recreational-drugs so as to both 'stimulate' and 'escape', -which unfortunately blocks vital nuro-dysfunctions; --hence spiraling into even greater feeling of despair/hopelessness-anxiety, and ultimately death wishes like-- "stop the world, i wanna get off!" Well, first of all, you need to know that your body/mind has NO need of any of these Zionist-AMA "Dr.FeelGood" sort of drug-medications, --period! But what your precious body/mind does have a vital need for is proper NUTRITIONAL supplements, --as we are individually slightly different in the way our bodies/minds function, and you obviously have an imbalance which is likely both genetically and environmentally imposed upon you. Number-one, stop ingesting anything which is deleterious to your body/mind functions (eg: -smoking/alcohol/drugs/raucous-music,etc.), --you need to immediately get out and force yourself into long brisk walks, which stimulates your system naturally and properly! --this is VITAL TO YOUR RECOVERY from your blue-funk! Then, go to the Dog-shelter and find yourself a loyal-pal (-not a Pitbull, -but a socially genetically well-adjusted dog like a Shepard, Golden-retriever, Labrador, etc.) -and give'em a name which has good positive-vibes for you! Study-up intently here on the internet and at a good nutritional-supplement shoppe for those righteous substances (vitamins/minerals/herbs/foods etc.) which are Gods natural-resource pathway to your eventual miraculous total-recovery. Just like it will take time for you to 'bond' with a k9-buddy, --it will take time for you to get a grip on your emotional-depression, --but have faith in knowing that this remaking of your psyche is absolutely possible, and by the mere act of your reaching-out here, demonstrates that you know deep within you that there is indeed a way out of your mental-quagmire... Let your self smell the roses... ~Robair
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