i'm on the fence with this one. so can i pick decriminalization till i make up my mind...
1) too many folks in jail/prison for it for small amounts which i think is silly. prison's are overcrowded, and the cost of supporting folks in jail is very expensive.
2) i don't think it's any more harmful than alcohol. infact i think smoking it is less harmful than alcohol for many folks.
3) it aint what it used to be....higher THC, and often cut with other drugs. not to mention the harmful chemicals and fertilizers used in a lot of growops.
4) i don't think kids should smoke it. their brains are still developing. adults...make your own choices.
5) the sale of large amounts is intrenched within the larger drug industry and traded for narcotics, which makes it part of a bigger problem.
6) legalizing it means government control of quality, and vice taxing like alcohol or cigarettes.
so i'm sitting on the fence till i have a stronger opinion.
jono7: i'm on the fence with this one. so can i pick decriminalization till i make up my mind...
1) too many folks in jail/prison for it for small amounts which i think is silly. prison's are overcrowded, and the cost of supporting folks in jail is very expensive.
2) i don't think it's any more harmful than alcohol. infact i think smoking it is less harmful than alcohol for many folks.
3) it aint what it used to be....higher THC, and often cut with other drugs. not to mention the harmful chemicals and fertilizers used in a lot of growops.
4) i don't think kids should smoke it. their brains are still developing. adults...make your own choices.
5) the sale of large amounts is intrenched within the larger drug industry and traded for narcotics, which makes it part of a bigger problem.
6) legalizing it means government control of quality, and vice taxing like alcohol or cigarettes.
so i'm sitting on the fence till i have a stronger opinion.
You seem to have a good approach :) ever tried personal responsibility to the mix? then perhaps we could call it even, unless those who run out in the street, shoot up with heroine and think thats the way its supposed to be, just because its legal
Dec 27, 2011 3:55 AM CST What is your point of view on marihuana
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 posts
I'm very indifferent to the whole issue these day's.It's getting cheaper by the minute and If anything I think decriminalisation would be quite sufficent.
Just to highlight the futility of law enforcement,very interesting little thing thats being looked into,by virtue of genetic modification we could see all the properties of marijuana placed into plants that have no resemblence to what it now looks like,the smell could be altered,and it ain't science fiction.Laws alway's gonna be chasing shadows.
Dec 27, 2011 4:05 AM CST What is your point of view on marihuana
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 Posts
whistlinwheelmelbourne, Victoria Australia296 posts
jono7: 3)it aint what it used to be....higher THC, and often cut with other drugs. not to mention the harmful chemicals and fertilizers used in a lot of growops.
No,in many way's it's as it's always been,theres always being super potent strains,theres always being piss weak strains,and to this day the highest THC content your gonna get is still through resin extraction,(ie-hashish,oils)and there ain't nothing new about hash making.
I'm a Detective with the local Sheriff's Department and I see people who started out smoking pot and the effects it has had on their lives. It nearly destroyed my brother-in-law. He risked jail time of 11 years or had the choice of going through rehabilitation for a YEAR to get clean and get his life back on track. He wisely chose the rehabilitation and is now doing very well and is very successful in his new career 5 years later. :-)
This link should be enough to make someone think twice about smoking it and the effects it has. It's something to think about in all seriousness. I cannot judge someone who smokes it, but definitely do question the "wisdom" of it all.
cynicalorangeBristol or Dortmund, Somerset, England UK1,897 posts
ReaderOfSouls: I'm a Detective with the local Sheriff's Department and I see people who started out smoking pot and the effects it has had on their lives. It nearly destroyed my brother-in-law. He risked jail time of 11 years or had the choice of going through rehabilitation for a YEAR to get clean and get his life back on track. He wisely chose the rehabilitation and is now doing very well and is very successful in his new career 5 years later. :-)
This link should be enough to make someone think twice about smoking it and the effects it has. It's something to think about in all seriousness. I cannot judge someone who smokes it, but definitely do question the "wisdom" of it all.
That link would have held some ground if it stated that the persons were arrested for marijuana usage or possession ONLY.
If didn't, so it was as worthless as most propaganda is.
I mean, Christ! I could have posted the FBI's 10 Most Wanted, and said that they'd all smoked a joint as least once in their lives, or been in the same postal area.
I've smoked it, and had a good time. Not moved onto a life of crime, nor did it ruin my career or family life.
It's how the person manages it, that makes a difference. Alcohol is a far serious drug, and that's as legal as you like. In fact, it's encouraged and socially acceptable to drink. Especially this time of year.
It costs as much as $60,000 a year to house inmates in some places. That's a crime to spend so much for those doing wrong and then those of us doing right get the bill?? Where is our money for being good?? Does that seem right to anyone?
Now if the inmates had to work and completely support themselves that's different. But to make the good pay so much for the bad is just wrong.
Far out man...don't Bogart that joint my friend, pass it over to me
you've been holdin' on to it, and I'd sure like a hit
The only thing that should be illegal about this subject is the persecution of the public for partaking of a naturally grown plant.
Personally I haven't used it for several decades but that is my choice and the right to use it should remain with me. Besides the government is missing out on a whole new tax revenue. It could probably ease the national debt if legalized and taxed. jmho
You're very fortunate, cynical orange. A lot of folks use it as a gateway to other drugs. Many of those folks started with cannabis and moved on to other hard core drugs.
That wasn't propaganda. It's a site that tells the stories of criminals, how they got started into a life of crime, their life stories, etc... It's quite informative if one takes the time to sit down and read them. The sad thing is there's a lot of sick folks out there, and these are just the ones that have come to light.
The folks who use cannabis recreationaly and aren't affected by it are very fortunate. Many aren't. I can't judge those who use it, but do wonder at the wisdom in which one uses to get started with it.
Personally, I have never used marijuana and I have no desire. I could care less if someone is doing it. My concern is someone doing something that is dangerous like operating a car or machinery as I feel no one should do that while imparied; be it drugs or alcohol.
bodleingGreater Manchester, England UK13,810 posts
single4ever: Personally, I have never used marijuana and I have no desire. I could care less if someone is doing it. My concern is someone doing something that is dangerous like operating a car or machinery as I feel no one should do that while imparied; be it drugs or alcohol.
Some people are impaired by life itself at times, in fact a little tipple or a blow on a spliff can sometimes settle things down.
bodleing: Actually, or perhaps ironically, crime under the influence of cannabis is minimal compared to many other drugs, except of course the very act of using it.
Exactly. There's no right or wrong answer, hon and the best we can do is just take it a day at a time. :-)
You know, come to think of it, my siblings and I were practically weaned on whiskey. Growing up, we'd grab slugs of dad's and grandfather's Jack and coke on a hot day after running around playing. We all did the drinking thing while on freedom from the parents at college/university but we never did develop a hard core taste for the stuff on a regular basis.I was in athletics in school and drug testing was just getting started up. Work, school and trying to get good grades took to the fore. Looking back, after all of that, I'm amazed none of my siblings and I turned into raging alcoholics. I guess life,college, marriage and young families with small children kind of took over and drinking went on the very far back burner.
I learned that I couldn't be a drug taker anyway because my body simply cannot handle narcotics in any form as it makes me deathly ill to the point that I have to be hospitalized.. I have to be on a special pain killer after having surgery. While one person's cup of tea is another one's cup of coffee, it's what makes the world go 'round. :-)
I won't be able to answer any more this evening as I'm on duty, filling in for a sick colleague, but I'll be back as soon as I can. :-)
single4ever: Personally, I have never used marijuana and I have no desire. I could care less if someone is doing it. My concern is someone doing something that is dangerous like operating a car or machinery as I feel no one should do that while imparied; be it drugs or alcohol.
.........you WOULD care if you could smell the smoke......it is highly toxic.......and secondhand pot smoke WILL affect nearby people..........also- marijuana has been proven to induce CANCER....more carcinogens the a camel cigarette........
woodstock1: .........you WOULD care if you could smell the smoke......it is highly toxic.......and secondhand pot smoke WILL affect nearby people..........also- marijuana has been proven to induce CANCER....more carcinogens the a camel cigarette........
Of course I would care if it was around me as I can't even be around cigarette smoke so I the smell of marijuana would make me sick. I was just saying what others do behind closed doors is their business,
I smoked lots of pot way back when. Stopped after a few years. It made me too lethargic. But I don't believe it's a dangerous drug or that it leads to other drug use. Of course people with a tendency towards addictive behavior will try pot and then move on to something stronger. But that doesn't mean the pot played any role in that move.
In my opinion it's no worse than wine and better (both socially and healthwise) than beer.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
single4ever: Really? I didn't know Marijuana was good for the heart. I know for sure a glass of red wine is good for the heart. Who would have thought?
Actually some have claimed they drive better after a few 'doobies.' Of course, I know a dead semi driver who claimed he drove his articulated B Train better after a micky of vodka but, that's another unrelated story.
I personally talked to two police officers about marijuana (when I was looking one day and accidentally walked into a bust in progress many years ago). After they grilled me and got no information, I grilled them back and they both admitted that in comparison to alcohol, there is far less crime associated with pot smokers and pot smokers are much easier to deal with compared to people who are drunk.
And no I never got charged as I never had possession of anything.
The problems of smoking weed comes not from what you do, but from what you don't do. Things like getting a job, a quality girlfriend, studying properly or developing a rich social life, hobbies or your personality.
What I notice about stoners is that they never do good things, they never do bad things, they never do anything out of the blue. They are the blandest of automatons. They are a blueprint of a life not worth living.
ReaderOfSouls: I'm a Detective with the local Sheriff's Department and I see people who started out smoking pot and the effects it has had on their lives. It nearly destroyed my brother-in-law. He risked jail time of 11 years or had the choice of going through rehabilitation for a YEAR to get clean and get his life back on track. He wisely chose the rehabilitation and is now doing very well and is very successful in his new career 5 years later. :-)
This link should be enough to make someone think twice about smoking it and the effects it has. It's something to think about in all seriousness. I cannot judge someone who smokes it, but definitely do question the "wisdom" of it all.
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