This is one chilling account of Sean Smith that died that night. In it he says that they had seem people (his Libyan security) taking photo of consulate and he wondered if he was going to die that night.
About this time Sept 4th, Netanhyu is trying to set up a meet with Obama. But by Sept 11th Obama has denied it.
The Benghazi attack happens about this Tues evening phone call time.
I don't know what was said in the phone call...only Obama and Netanhyu do. But someone gave that Isreali newpaper a leaked story of coming attacks on the US. I doubt some Egyptian newspaper would do it. My connect the dots would say it is the Israeli government did it.
TTom50: Now with two of the Liberal media moderators totally blowing the concept of a fair debate.....it is clear that several parties from the FOX network should be placed into the debate moderator jobs for 2016.
Fine...Hannity is to REP and Conservative afigure for such a role. Even say OReilly is to far to the right. But come on! Candy Crowley....a CNN....reporter who wedding Obama attended? That is liberal media bias.
Greta Van Susteren comes to mind as a good choice to moderate from FOX. So does Bret Baier a white house correspondant would do a good job at the table.
That liberal media has to place a liberal moderator at the table is like liberal academia that has to have libard at the chalk board. It show a certain disrespect for the mid road rights and IND Americans that are the countries majority.
Well things are changing in Hollywood. REP are coming back into the mainstream in tinsel town.
Maybe the liberal bias in academia and in media will find that if you misrepresent the majority in the country long enough....you to can lose your job.
This after wikileak....after Dr. Alfridi....after the SEAL Team 6 shot down....after the leaking bug attack on Iran's centrifuges.....after the Fast and Furious cover up.....
Just remove all DEMs from political office..... send them back for reeducation.....
TTom50: Let me give you the facts then. The Nunn/Lugar agreement....which the Russian will not extend....included a clause that would keep either country from targeting the other with their nucs.
BUT....both have programmable nuclear system....that can be targeted in less than a hour time. We think we can target them a bit faster than the Russians....that don't have the computer systems that we do. Some here say...in 20 minuted. So double that for the Russians.
Unless this was included in the new START agreement....once Nunn/Lugar lapses next year, Russia is free to target their new nuc on anyone. Most likely on your Europe and my US.
And Russia sure will target us all and China will follw as well... if THAT dang corporate raider no brainer of urs winning this election and awakening the stupid cold war for the sake of the one procent who always get filty rich by terrorism, wars and hositility amoung nations. I certaily wish that America do not miss the stupid cold war which was based on not a thing and just costed millions of lives and costed tons of money paid by the public and gathered at Romney likes from all over the planet and made Swiss and pother crook nations of this planet filty rich! Do not miss that Stupid and bloody past mister TT... Mitt Romney does care for his own Cult members only, and do not give a freaking Damn a bout you or other americans who are not Worthy in his eyes unless being a Mormon too.
The Liberty and Freedom Foundation BLAM!! POW!! ROMNEY MOVES UP IN ALL FIVE MAJOR NATIONAL POLLS TODAY, TIED OR TAKES LEAD IN EVERY SINGLE ONE - Barack Obama followers have now gone into full panic mode as Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney has taken either the outright lead, or tied (in ultra Liberal polls) over Barack Obama. In the five major national polls today Romney is: Gallup-Romney gains 1%t Rasmussen-Romney gains 1% PPP-Romney gains 2% Reuters-Romney gains 2% ... NBC-Romney gains 3% OUCH...So much for the Obama bounce after the second debate....NOT!!! Since all that movement is POST DEBATE.
This after wikileak....after Dr. Alfridi....after the SEAL Team 6 shot down....after the leaking bug attack on Iran's centrifuges.....after the Fast and Furious cover up.....
Just remove all DEMs from political office..... send them back for reeducation.....
Excuse me wasn't this about letting the American people know what happened? Thats what the news media says should happen, and what the Reps said also. the Dims are having a cow because they look sooooo bad, thats why!!
Hot_Single_Dude: And Russia sure will target us all and China will follw as well... if THAT dang corporate raider no brainer of urs winning this election and awakening the stupid cold war for the sake of the one procent who always get filty rich by terrorism, wars and hositility amoung nations. I certaily wish that America do not miss the stupid cold war which was based on not a thing and just costed millions of lives and costed tons of money paid by the public and gathered at Romney likes from all over the planet and made Swiss and pother crook nations of this planet filty rich! Do not miss that Stupid and bloody past mister TT... Mitt Romney does care for his own Cult members only, and do not give a freaking Damn a bout you or other americans who are not Worthy in his eyes unless being a Mormon too.
It seem to me that Mr. Putin is the one jumping back into the Cold War. He has made Syria a proxy state conflict. He is arming Iran a surrogate with all the modern Russian weapons. He is the one that want a 1000 new high tech aircraft...including stealth. New nuclear subs....new ICBMs....
So?
Either the west rebuilds our militaries or we let Putin back Iran's play for nucs? What will it be? I say we draw line in the Iran sand so deep, that Khatenie and Ahmendinejada both can fall in and the bull dozer covers them both up......I don't care if the line is drawn with the Isreali...with the Brits....with NATO ...or the man in moon.
If Putin wants to play in Iran. Make it so costly to him....that the Russian people will vote him out. He only can have one more term anyways. Russia has term limits. But that does not mean his apprentice Mr Medvedev cannot have another Presidency. Let them send 5 divisions to Syria and 5 divisions to Iran. To back the worlds worse dictators. The Russian people will get the idea.
factsrknown: Iran is like a popcorn fart lost in a hurricane. A band of idiots still working to build an antique weapon system that a laser would pop right out of the sky in a flash (LOL) a great pun, but true! It's sad they seem to be without a clue they can be swatted like a fly.
factsrknown: Excuse me wasn't this about letting the American people know what happened? Thats what the news media says should happen, and what the Reps said also. the Dims are having a cow because they look sooooo bad, thats why!!
Sure. So they have to attack the messenger. Only the messenger was carrying all communications that were done by DEMs in office.
TTom50: We don't fact check here. That is against Dude's rules for the thread. This is smash face political bloggin...hit em with the worst shot you got....
Hot_Single_Dude: The word Fact told in Republican way: Fuc,t!
Facts told the Dim way, LIES! and damn LIES! PILED ON TOP OF MORE LIES! Then the Dims try to cover the lies they caught in with, you got it, MORE LIES! Then they complain "they" are insulted when caught bald face lying!!
Hot_Single_Dude: The word Fact told in Republican way: Fuc,t!
I am sitting here with a letter on Fast and Furious written by a high ranking REP in the Senate.
Here is a quote
"As you may know, Operation Fast and Furious was launched in 2009 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. (ATF). The purpose of this operations was to gather intelligence on the gun smuggling practices of the Mexican drug cartels operating within the United States. The ATF allowed straw purchase to buy the weapons in Arizona and planned to track these weapons back to Mexico and the drug cartel leaders. This operation was ill conceived and poorly implimented and resulted in many of the weapons turning up at crime scene in Mexico and the United States. Tragically, weapons used in teh killing of US Border Patrol agent Brian Terry were procured during Fast and Furious. Additionally, the ATF admits that over 2000 weapons involved in this operation remain unaccounted for."
It continues
"In October of 2011, documents were released that contained information indicating that Holder received memos regarding the operation Fast and Furious in 2010. This information contradicts his sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee were he stated he was unaware of Fast and Furious until April, 2011."
That is why Holder got his contempt of Congress charge.
Now when we connect the dots on Amb Stevens pre warning of attack to who carried the messages in the Obama administration....with Congressional sworn testimony. We will get to the bottom of the Ambassador death. Why additional security was not given to him for 911.
One last little piece....Ambassador Stevens has a high ranking General in the Marine Corp that is a close relative....who is saying.....they will not rest until they get to the bottom it. They will turn the Obama administration inside out now.
TTom50: Well it is group fruit cakes Obama wants to talk too.....and by doing so he ligitmizes them.
There was a very good reason for...."We will not talk with terrorist" You give them ligitmacy on the world's stage.
I agree TT... no reason to talk to terrorists what so ever, and people who because of fear are forced to live under a terorr supporting regim better helped toward freedom by demolishing the regim of horror ASAP and a world will Ease toward way better times after Mullahs are gone...
Still your beloved GWB talked to them as well, and actually in the begining of war against Taliban and during the two first years before GWB decided to forget all a bout terrorism and went after iraqi oil instead of fighting terrorism... Iran and US had cooporation against Taliban even you never want to accept this. GWB administration tried to begin talks with Iran regarding nuclear matters as well, even it did not success turning to direct and none secret talks or succesful negotiations. And never forget your biggest Hero ever Reagan the dang and his Irancontra scandal.
Governments talk, open or in secret... and they talk when ever it is good for them to talk. Internatioanl Politics are complicated and not really easy to understand for the common guy in the street, and when seeing a GWB administration with all it,s mumbo jumbo talked to those dang mullahs or forgave THAT Gadhaffi even he was responsible for killing inoncent americans over Lockerbie and then all Gadhafi men all of sudden travelled around like being good fellows and sanctions were lifted and some billions paid to victums of that horrible terror attack kind of washed the bloody hands of the dictator off... then do not wonder why if president Obama administration begins to talk with mullahs regim some day as well.
It is necessary to confront even your worse enemies with diplomacy and showing the absolute force if it is clear that some thing is happening you got to stop! As you know better than me even you never want to admit... Iran regim is just a fly and no military super thing and their nuclear bombs are not real and they have no capabilities producing such.
Israeli power holders who are understandibly enough concerned a bout the nuclear danger from Mullahs side, but also playing politics in order of strengtheing the right winger government of Bibi and trying to make people forgetting all a bout how bribed and horrible Bibi guys have acted for calling on war and armageddon and shi*... also know that Israel got hundreds of ready nucs ready and beside the huge arsenal of the US behind if necessary, and then a possible scenario of Iran maybe is going to bulit one bomb is not enough to start a war.
Common people like you and I who are concerned a bout dangers of terrorism and beside a bout people of Iran living under horror and for the security of Israel as well of course... would want Easy and Fast solutions and Hey... yeah Bomb the dang thing now and stuff but we are not governments and can easily want some thing which is not all right to do any way or possible to do... governments go tot think a bout some concerns simple folks like us do not know about
TTom50: LOL...Remember when Netanyhu wanted to talk with the President of the United State...and he was to busy to meet....and had to go to the View?
Netanhyu leaked it to a UK newspaper a few days after Obama refused to meet with him that the Isreali had intell of 911 strike. But there was other net chatter about a 911 attack.
This is a really interesting rumor you are just making TT... are you sure some folks will beleive in it? Like intels of Israel and US never talk other than direct talks between higest leaders of countries? Like presidnet Obama and Netty just talk in fornt of tv cameras... Right? Sure being a propoganda master suits you well !
Hot_Single_Dude: This is a really interesting rumor you are just making TT... are you sure some folks will beleive in it? Like intels of Israel and US never talk other than direct talks between higest leaders of countries? Like presidnet Obama and Netty just talk in fornt of tv cameras... Right? Sure being a propoganda master suits you well !
It is the timeline of events. It is how the cards were played out by world leaders. Obama made a really had mistake in not talking with Bibi.
Romney will ask him about it at the coming debate on foreign affairs.....I am sure.
TTom50: I am sitting here with a letter on Fast and Furious written by a high ranking REP in the Senate.
Here is a quote
"As you may know, Operation Fast and Furious was launched in 2009 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. (ATF). The purpose of this operations was to gather intelligence on the gun smuggling practices of the Mexican drug cartels operating within the United States. The ATF allowed straw purchase to buy the weapons in Arizona and planned to track these weapons back to Mexico and the drug cartel leaders. This operation was ill conceived and poorly implimented and resulted in many of the weapons turning up at crime scene in Mexico and the United States. Tragically, weapons used in teh killing of US Border Patrol agent Brian Terry were procured during Fast and Furious. Additionally, the ATF admits that over 2000 weapons involved in this operation remain unaccounted for."
It continues
"In October of 2011, documents were released that contained information indicating that Holder received memos regarding the operation Fast and Furious in 2010. This information contradicts his sworn testimony before the House Judiciary Committee were he stated he was unaware of Fast and Furious until April, 2011."
That is why Holder got his contempt of Congress charge.
Now when we connect the dots on Amb Stevens pre warning of attack to who carried the messages in the Obama administration....with Congressional sworn testimony. We will get to the bottom of the Ambassador death. Why additional security was not given to him for 911.
One last little piece....Ambassador Stevens has a high ranking General in the Marine Corp that is a close relative....who is saying.....they will not rest until they get to the bottom it. They will turn the Obama administration inside out now.
Hot_Single_Dude: This is a really interesting rumor you are just making TT... are you sure some folks will beleive in it? Like intels of Israel and US never talk other than direct talks between higest leaders of countries? Like presidnet Obama and Netty just talk in fornt of tv cameras... Right? Sure being a propoganda master suits you well !
The relationship between Washington and Isreal has never been worse.
This is written by a Brit and outside party observing the relationship with no ideological skin in the game.
There has been a rift between Obama and Bibi from the start of the administration. It was Obama that did a open mike with Skarkosy when he said...."I have to work with him on a daily basis."
Well he did not on 911 of this year....and Ambassador Steven is dead.
Hot_Single_Dude: Wow! Only in America! TT solved the puzzle!
That is just what we know about Fast and Furious...'the hard facts' as they say. I took their (Congressional) line of investigation into whole another direction.....
This is written by a Brit and outside party observing the relationship with no ideological skin in the game.
There has been a rift between Obama and Bibi from the start of the administration. It was Obama that did a open mike with Skarkosy when he said...."I have to work with him on a daily basis."
Well he did not on 911 of this year....and Ambassador Steven is dead.
Sure Obama will work with a joint missile defense with Israel. But does that not prove how close Iran is to a nuc? But then when it comes to stopping Iran nuclear programs with military strikes and line in the sand. Obama cannot evade Bibi fast enough.......
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The article talks about the Jersulem Post getting a letter from a Egyptian daily newspaper warning of attack on US and Isreali embassies in Cairo.
This is one chilling account of Sean Smith that died that night.
In it he says that they had seem people (his Libyan security) taking photo of consulate and he wondered if he was going to die that night.
About this time Sept 4th, Netanhyu is trying to set up a meet with Obama. But by Sept 11th Obama has denied it.
The attacks happen that evening. After this denial for a meeting came.
So Obama makes a 1 hour photo call with Natanhyu. But the call is only about Iran. But they seemed to limit the conversation to Iran and its nucs.
The Benghazi attack happens about this Tues evening phone call time.
I don't know what was said in the phone call...only Obama and Netanhyu do. But someone gave that Isreali newpaper a leaked story of coming attacks on the US. I doubt some Egyptian newspaper would do it. My connect the dots would say it is the Israeli government did it.