THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney? (882)
tomcatwarne: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought GM was a private company and not an arm of the Obama government. And the outsourcing Is more corporate greed akin to repulicanism than anything to do with Obama.
From Bloomberg
"Like a restless suitor eager to move on, General Motors Co. (GM) wants to end its four-year relationship with the U.S. government. Washington, to its credit, has no intention of playing the chump.
GM, bailed out with $50 billion from the Troubled Asset Relief Program, wants the U.S. Treasury to sell its remaining 26.5 percent stake quickly, even if that means taking a huge loss. The unnecessary oversight and intervention that comes with its “Government Motors” status, GM argues, is holding the company back.
Bailouts aren’t free -- for either side -- a point worth highlighting as critics continue to beat up on the Treasury for not extracting more pain from the banks and companies it rescued. GM’s fitful relationship with its government overseers should help deter the poor decision-making that landed companies at Washington’s doorstep.
tomcatwarne: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought GM was a private company and not an arm of the Obama government. And the outsourcing Is more corporate greed akin to repulicanism than anything to do with Obama.
Nope this gets into the legalities of the TARP II bailout. To get get the funds and to go thru receivership (a kind of bankruptcy) ....GM and Crystler had to give stock...to the Federal Government....as a collatral. Hence the Government became a 'owner' of the firms.
WhatUwish4: Not any more.
Ah yes the govt is a shareholder, but the Chief executive has stated it will be run as a private company. And the outsourcing is a product of business competition and not government directive.
Take a look at the RED!
This is a map of the REP/DEM House seat competitions.
PN, MI, OH, WI, FL, CO, NV.....the key battleground state are all leaning REP in the house races. Even IL is headed REP in the House races. That is Obama home state. If the toss up split, the REP will retain the House with about a 20+ vote lead.
Nancy it seems you were wrong.....
Nancy Pelosi said the DEMs would re- control the House.
The 2010 Tea Party wave continues....
This is a map of the REP/DEM House seat competitions.
PN, MI, OH, WI, FL, CO, NV.....the key battleground state are all leaning REP in the house races. Even IL is headed REP in the House races. That is Obama home state. If the toss up split, the REP will retain the House with about a 20+ vote lead.
Nancy it seems you were wrong.....
Nancy Pelosi said the DEMs would re- control the House. The 2010 Tea Party wave continues....
tomcatwarne: Ah yes the govt is a shareholder, but the Chief executive has stated it will be run as a private company. And the outsourcing is a product of business competition and not government directive.
Well of course he would say that, but the facts speak otherwise. And if they are shipping their huge research endeavors, or other jobs, overseas, whereis the government Oversight that Obama promised? It was the government that told them to close 2000 car dealerships in the course of their "restructuring," along with all sorts of lay-offs of all the non-union jobs.
tomcatwarne: Ah yes the govt is a shareholder, but the Chief executive has stated it will be run as a private company. And the outsourcing is a product of business competition and not government directive.
That is why he has a Car Czar overseeing the entire auto industry....
The government's authority over GM today isn't concentrated in the 500 million shares it still owns, which amount to a hefty but not controlling 26.5% ownership stake.
Rather, Washington's power comes from the management apparatus of TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program, from which the $50 billion bailout originally came.
TARP is funded by taxpayers, so there are many rules about how that money can and can't be used. The result: GM spends an awful lot of time checking in with the people who administer TARP over everything from hiring to executive compensation and management. For a global company, that adds up to a lot of distraction.
Rather, Washington's power comes from the management apparatus of TARP, the Troubled Asset Relief Program, from which the $50 billion bailout originally came.
TARP is funded by taxpayers, so there are many rules about how that money can and can't be used. The result: GM spends an awful lot of time checking in with the people who administer TARP over everything from hiring to executive compensation and management. For a global company, that adds up to a lot of distraction.
tomcatwarne: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought GM was a private company and not an arm of the Obama government. And the outsourcing Is more corporate greed akin to repulicanism than anything to do with Obama.
are we talking about GOVERNMENT MOTORS?More Taxmoney down the Drain!
Actually a Union-Bailout at the expense of the Shareholders and Taxpayers!
Wonder how many Senior-Citizens lost the Shirt off their backs in that Union-Bailout!
Sorry. That was from the Wall St. Journal
Here is the same map for the Senate
The neither party will have a 60 vote super majority the way I am reading this. But either could have a simple majority.....
The neither party will have a 60 vote super majority the way I am reading this. But either could have a simple majority.....
TTom50: That is why he has a Car Czar overseeing the entire auto industry....
Well I will not get involved with your politics, but outsourcing is a fact of economic life in a lot of countries now . To maintain the competitive edge you have to keep costs down. Anyway I'll leave the discussion now good luck to all
tomcatwarne: Well I will not get involved with your politics, but outsourcing is a fact of economic life in a lot of countries now . To maintain the competitive edge you have to keep costs down. Anyway I'll leave the discussion now good luck to all
We appreciate that. Outsourcing to us...is usually a commercial contract. Were as stock ownership....is the ownership of the company.
Feel free to drop in. If we can take Dude's intrusion.....well I think you see where that goes....
REP look like they are going to take more Governor seats.....
tomcatwarne: Well I will not get involved with your politics, but outsourcing is a fact of economic life in a lot of countries now . To maintain the competitive edge you have to keep costs down. Anyway I'll leave the discussion now good luck to all
It's funny, but the democrats never find outsourcing an acceptable fact of life when they are bit##ing about republicans - yet when they or the government do it, things just get swept under the rug.
We really need to do something about our biased media.
Bye Tomcat..
Media is starting to ask the right questions on Benghazi. Obama PR people saying it was a 'non talk topic' in White House q and As.....is a big indication that they know how bad this is beginning to look.
One of the FOX female reporter is asking if there was inside leakage from the White House to alQeada that said Amb Stevens was security light and at the consulate.
Another FOX Judge Jeanie Pirro is hot on the Benghazi case. I listened her last night. She said her father and his father both fought in WWII....that they both just quietly did what they had to do....but they never left a man behind. If they could help a American that was in trouble they were there to do it.
The House has started a investigation of Benghazi. White House is not responding other than non classified documents that are being released by 3rd parties. The House member said last night...there is a 50 minute UAV video of the events. That there were two UAVs over Benghazi. One was armed with missiles. The other was not.
My Dad tells this WWII story. He is on leave in Paris. Drinking in the cafes and doing the shows....that type stuff. So he is sitting in a cafe with 25 other Americans....some American soldier comes in says to them all....there is American in trouble with a Russian......
By the time they got to were the trouble was....there were 500 American service men in the group. They found out that it was not even American involved in the situation. But A Russian had made a pass at French woman....and her husband....had gotten up set over it.
So See? Americans can get into major international incidents not even be the cause of it......
A white house aid...said that President Obama did not withhold aid to the men in the Consulate. Penetta said they were 'appraising the situation' to determine if it was safe enough to send men.
But with the real time video .....and the 3 requested aid phones calls from the CIA compound.....all being denied. I am thinking they were more worried about getting their people out, than protecting Amb Stevens. Even there....is took them 2 hours after the attack ended to get their people out of the city by air.
One of the FOX female reporter is asking if there was inside leakage from the White House to alQeada that said Amb Stevens was security light and at the consulate.
Another FOX Judge Jeanie Pirro is hot on the Benghazi case. I listened her last night. She said her father and his father both fought in WWII....that they both just quietly did what they had to do....but they never left a man behind. If they could help a American that was in trouble they were there to do it.
The House has started a investigation of Benghazi. White House is not responding other than non classified documents that are being released by 3rd parties. The House member said last night...there is a 50 minute UAV video of the events. That there were two UAVs over Benghazi. One was armed with missiles. The other was not.
My Dad tells this WWII story. He is on leave in Paris. Drinking in the cafes and doing the shows....that type stuff. So he is sitting in a cafe with 25 other Americans....some American soldier comes in says to them all....there is American in trouble with a Russian......
By the time they got to were the trouble was....there were 500 American service men in the group. They found out that it was not even American involved in the situation. But A Russian had made a pass at French woman....and her husband....had gotten up set over it.
So See? Americans can get into major international incidents not even be the cause of it......
A white house aid...said that President Obama did not withhold aid to the men in the Consulate. Penetta said they were 'appraising the situation' to determine if it was safe enough to send men.
But with the real time video .....and the 3 requested aid phones calls from the CIA compound.....all being denied. I am thinking they were more worried about getting their people out, than protecting Amb Stevens. Even there....is took them 2 hours after the attack ended to get their people out of the city by air.
TTom50: All of the Obama quotes of lending or supporting lending (likely loan guarrantees) to Greece are in the article. Coulter had nothing to do with the writing on the article.
Guess you are just taking Obama's position of called people BSer.....
Guess you are just taking Obama's position of called people BSer.....
Of course!
Mitt Romney of Kolob is a BSer... a real and all way BSer and nothing than a BSer! Right on mister president... You know Romney,s real personality, and you know Exactly what THAT monster lier is standing for, and hopefully Dems and other folks standing on the Decent side, are going to make sure all americans knowing a bout the real BSer Mitt Romney, and making sure him and his bloody group of leccehrs and cheaters and BSers are not going to get the Ring This November the Sixth!
Yesterday I heard on local news that the Nampa school district has
been spending more than they were budgeted for by 2 million
dollars for the past three years. At the same time the people
of the Nampa school district been giving themselves raises for
the past three years. Once again overspending by government
agency proves to me that our government at many levels is out
of control. Maybe it is time to put education into private
sector.
been spending more than they were budgeted for by 2 million
dollars for the past three years. At the same time the people
of the Nampa school district been giving themselves raises for
the past three years. Once again overspending by government
agency proves to me that our government at many levels is out
of control. Maybe it is time to put education into private
sector.
agman: Yesterday I heard on local news that the Nampa school district has
been spending more than they were budgeted for by 2 million
dollars for the past three years. At the same time the people
of the Nampa school district been giving themselves raises for
the past three years. Once again overspending by government
agency proves to me that our government at many levels is out
of control. Maybe it is time to put education into private
sector.
been spending more than they were budgeted for by 2 million
dollars for the past three years. At the same time the people
of the Nampa school district been giving themselves raises for
the past three years. Once again overspending by government
agency proves to me that our government at many levels is out
of control. Maybe it is time to put education into private
sector.
Morning R-Man
Years ago, I was asked to write an article on the tax credits for education back when it was on the ballot here in south Florida. During the research, it came to light that (at the time), the average cost for private school tuition national was $5,000 - which ALSO was the average national cost to educate a public school child.
So the question looms.... What are the private schools doing differently? It has to boil down to accountability. Teachers unions and government regulation???
TTom50: I had a Wawa drink tonight. I looked on the bottom of the plastic cup and it said made in China. Romney by 5%
Yeah? Really?
tomcatwarne: This government is all scared about a cyber war. Well China wants to give them a Cyber war. China has the fast super computer in the world today. They want to stretch its legs out and see what it can do.
Yeh but they used American made chips to build it
Yeh but they used American made chips to build it
A lot American know how and americna echnoloy have been sold to China thanks to Specially monster GOP supporter buttheads as the chamber of Commerce and shi* and Bain capital kinds of anti american job out sourcers of our time and yeah... now China is out challenging us with a super computer ... it is a bout time stopping Bain and it,s look a liked and making Made in America a necssasary cause to be proud of!
WhatUwish4: Morning R-Man
Years ago, I was asked to write an article on the tax credits for education back when it was on the ballot here in south Florida. During the research, it came to light that (at the time), the average cost for private school tuition national was $5,000 - which ALSO was the average national cost to educate a public school child.
So the question looms.... What are the private schools doing differently? It has to boil down to accountability. Teachers unions and government regulation???
Years ago, I was asked to write an article on the tax credits for education back when it was on the ballot here in south Florida. During the research, it came to light that (at the time), the average cost for private school tuition national was $5,000 - which ALSO was the average national cost to educate a public school child.
So the question looms.... What are the private schools doing differently? It has to boil down to accountability. Teachers unions and government regulation???
Morning k-girl,
Wow look at you.
Musketeer. Well every time I seeteachers striking when they are under contract to teach makes me
want to just replace them all.
Hot_Single_Dude: A lot American know how and americna echnoloy have been sold to China thanks to Specially monster GOP supporter buttheads as the chamber of Commerce and shi* and Bain capital kinds of anti american job out sourcers of our time and yeah... now China is out challenging us with a super computer ... it is a bout time stopping Bain and it,s look a liked and making Made in America a necssasary cause to be proud of!
You should be careful here, Dude. We just finished discussing how Government Motors is outsourcing to China, and how under Obama they did just like Bain would do and shuttered 2000 dealerships in the course of "restructuring."
Pot meet kettle!
agman: Morning k-girl,
Wow look at you. Musketeer. Well every time I see
teachers striking when they are under contract to teach makes me
want to just replace them all.
Wow look at you. Musketeer. Well every time I see
teachers striking when they are under contract to teach makes me
want to just replace them all.
We had our big neighborhood Hallowen fest last night so I'm feeling festive.
I agree with you... the unions now spend far more time taking care of themselves than looking out for the best interest of the children
A well-known Bible-code researcher has bad news for Barack Obama, as he claims hidden texts in the Holy Bible indicate Mitt Romney will be America’s next president.
Moshe Aharon Shak, an orthodox Jew and author of “Bible Codes Breakthrough” has produced a series of videos on YouTube with his modern analysis of Scripture.
For those not familiar with Bible codes, they are said to be secret messages embedded in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.
Those who claim the codes’ validity say they disclose information about both the past, as well as the future.
The messages are decoded when a computer is used to search in a certain pattern, such as every fourth or fifth Hebrew letter within a given matrix.
“The matrix is found in Deuteronomy Chapter 28, verses 13 and 14,” says Shak, a mechanical engineer from Montreal, Canada. “There we find his first name, last name, day and month of birth, and the term ‘president.’ Fifteen terms consisting of 85 letters are found telling a fascinating story.”
Shak says the Hebrew code goes beyond merely stating that Romney will be president, but also describes the kind of leader he’ll be.
“The codes are telling us: a fitting president,” he explains, adding that Romney’s name is associated with the phrase, “the man (is) for Him,” referring to the Master of the universe.
“I suppose that means that he (Romney) will follow His (God’s) ways,” said Shak. “But the term goes both ways. It also means that the Master of the universe will be for him, for Romney.”
The BibleCodesDigest website has looked at Shak’s videos, and says, “Although he claims that the search is done by established methodology guided by scientific principles, there are two critical caveats that must be understood.”
The first is that interpretation of the codes can be faulty, and the second is that undiscovered codes can shed more light on the intent of a matrix.
“In contrast to Shak’s beliefs, BCD believes that codes present well-known viewpoints, which may or may not be true,” the site continues.
“For example, a code such as Romney will be president could be either (1) a fact or (2) an opinion about what may happen. If codes only present facts, then they can be used to make predictions. However, if codes can be either a fact or an opinion, they cannot be used to make reliable predictions.
“In that case, the purpose of codes is to serve as evidence that the Bible was written by an intelligence that knew the future when the Bible was written. However, the future could consist either of the belief of many (before the election) that Romney will be president or that he will serve as president.”
One person interested in Shak’s conclusion asked on YouTube: “The only concern I have is the use of the name ‘Mitt.’ His real name is Willard and I wonder if that would change what the codes revealed.”
“How is ‘he’ known? How do ‘they’ refer to him?” responded Shak. “How many people would complete the name: Willard … as opposed to Mitt … with the last name Romney. This is one of many important factors.”
Moshe Aharon Shak, an orthodox Jew and author of “Bible Codes Breakthrough” has produced a series of videos on YouTube with his modern analysis of Scripture.
For those not familiar with Bible codes, they are said to be secret messages embedded in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.
Those who claim the codes’ validity say they disclose information about both the past, as well as the future.
The messages are decoded when a computer is used to search in a certain pattern, such as every fourth or fifth Hebrew letter within a given matrix.
“The matrix is found in Deuteronomy Chapter 28, verses 13 and 14,” says Shak, a mechanical engineer from Montreal, Canada. “There we find his first name, last name, day and month of birth, and the term ‘president.’ Fifteen terms consisting of 85 letters are found telling a fascinating story.”
Shak says the Hebrew code goes beyond merely stating that Romney will be president, but also describes the kind of leader he’ll be.
“The codes are telling us: a fitting president,” he explains, adding that Romney’s name is associated with the phrase, “the man (is) for Him,” referring to the Master of the universe.
“I suppose that means that he (Romney) will follow His (God’s) ways,” said Shak. “But the term goes both ways. It also means that the Master of the universe will be for him, for Romney.”
The BibleCodesDigest website has looked at Shak’s videos, and says, “Although he claims that the search is done by established methodology guided by scientific principles, there are two critical caveats that must be understood.”
The first is that interpretation of the codes can be faulty, and the second is that undiscovered codes can shed more light on the intent of a matrix.
“In contrast to Shak’s beliefs, BCD believes that codes present well-known viewpoints, which may or may not be true,” the site continues.
“For example, a code such as Romney will be president could be either (1) a fact or (2) an opinion about what may happen. If codes only present facts, then they can be used to make predictions. However, if codes can be either a fact or an opinion, they cannot be used to make reliable predictions.
“In that case, the purpose of codes is to serve as evidence that the Bible was written by an intelligence that knew the future when the Bible was written. However, the future could consist either of the belief of many (before the election) that Romney will be president or that he will serve as president.”
One person interested in Shak’s conclusion asked on YouTube: “The only concern I have is the use of the name ‘Mitt.’ His real name is Willard and I wonder if that would change what the codes revealed.”
“How is ‘he’ known? How do ‘they’ refer to him?” responded Shak. “How many people would complete the name: Willard … as opposed to Mitt … with the last name Romney. This is one of many important factors.”
WhatUwish4: Look again, Dude...
We need to look no further than General Motors’ own figures to learn that GM outsources almost two thirds of its jobs overseas. Less than one in five GM vehicles are manufactured in the United States.
To be exact: GM’s December 31, 2011 annual report shows General Motors of North America accounting for 98,000 of the 207,000 GM jobs worldwide. But 12,000 of these jobs are in Canada and 11,500 are in Mexico. Accordingly, GM has 74,500 jobs in the United States and 122,500 abroad, even after Obama’s touted surge in Detroit jobs. Almost two thirds of GM’s jobs are in other countries.
GM’s outsourcing is not a slip. GM clearly states that foreign investment and outsourcing of jobs are an integral parts of its growth strategy.http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/08/12/outsourcer-in-chief-obama-of-general-motors/
We need to look no further than General Motors’ own figures to learn that GM outsources almost two thirds of its jobs overseas. Less than one in five GM vehicles are manufactured in the United States.
To be exact: GM’s December 31, 2011 annual report shows General Motors of North America accounting for 98,000 of the 207,000 GM jobs worldwide. But 12,000 of these jobs are in Canada and 11,500 are in Mexico. Accordingly, GM has 74,500 jobs in the United States and 122,500 abroad, even after Obama’s touted surge in Detroit jobs. Almost two thirds of GM’s jobs are in other countries.
GM’s outsourcing is not a slip. GM clearly states that foreign investment and outsourcing of jobs are an integral parts of its growth strategy.http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/08/12/outsourcer-in-chief-obama-of-general-motors/
And ur guy and his group of liers and leeches would let GM go bankrupted, and stripping it and selling technology and machinery to buyers from China and else where and gathering billions of dollers in off shore accounts and laughing out loud for gud sake Wish4!
The Dang GOP and it,s anti american forces made a kind of BOY COTT against this one of the kind American company called Genereal Motors becuse it denies endorsement of another Stupid GOP on power and because GM knows that with out president Obamas decent and pro american and patriot act... GM would go bank rupted and off America all way and tens of tousands of american jobs would vanish for ever!
Do not cry for GM Wish4... GM is still existing because of pesident Obama and his honorable administration and corporate raiders of your Romney did not success demolishing another american icon for the sake of fast profits for a few FAT buttheads who call them selves "amricans" but better ALL removing their sorry butts back to OZ or AZ behind Fences!
stringman: A well-known Bible-code researcher has bad news for Barack Obama, as he claims hidden texts in the Holy Bible indicate Mitt Romney will be America’s next president.
and I know someone who can determine who will the next nobel prize by passing out after farting..... TTom50: Back in 2009, this little dittie missed most of the US Press
tomcatwarne: Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought GM was a private company and not an arm of the Obama government. And the outsourcing Is more corporate greed akin to repulicanism than anything to do with Obama.
Dont worry... Wish4 is a Republican and too many Republicnas actually do not even want to know what is going on in America or around the world and chose keep staying Blind and not allowing them selves toward seeking of truth! Butthead of GOP began to call GM being "Government Motors" and called for boycotting it because GM generally knows that Obama administration is Way better protecting american jobs and saving what ever american jobs which can be saved and GOP is defintately cool a blout letting it all go bank rupted and making a few FAT money men going even more rich.JeanKimberley: and I know someone who can determine who will the next nobel prize by passing out after farting.....
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