THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney? (882)

Oct 20, 2012 9:49 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
JeanKimberley: and another thing....... everyone talks about less government more private - when the budgets to government is reduced you are talking about laying off, putting out of work - librarians, police, water and sewer technicians, engineers, biologists, doctors - all who work in a government capacity. Not politicians - real bonofide americans who are paid with our tax dollars - the republicans want to fire them - and call it reducing government budgets -


This is where a Dictator beats a President.

A President tells the state bureaucracy to reduce itself and what happens is that these vermin protect their own positions whilst sacking front-line personnel that are of actual use.

In the same way that the surgeon cuts away the cancer and leaves the healthy tissue intact, you need somebody with the same precision, skill and authority to perform this lifesaving procedure upon the state.
Oct 20, 2012 9:51 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
stringman: There are more people in poverty, one out of six people in poverty.

How about food stamps? When he took office, 32 million people were on food stamps. Today, 47 million people are on food stamps. How about the growth of the economy? It’s growing more slowly this year than last year – and more slowly last year than the year before. …


Food stamps is a state issued thing. Thank goodness more people are actually applying and receiving food - often times people like to use these "statistics" as a cause and effect.

Medicare fraud, mortgage fraud, identity are up - why because it exists now because of mass technology -

food stamp has increased because more people know about and apply for it and are eligible to receive it. in the olden days we all used to grow our own vegetables or if we lived in the rural areas we went to fresh markets - those days are gone.

I think if people stopped reading all the "statistics" and really looked around at their community and their neighborhoods.
Oct 20, 2012 10:13 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Food stamps is a state issued thing. Thank goodness more people are actually applying and receiving food - often times people like to use these "statistics" as a cause and effect.

why are more people appplying? because they have to, no jobs.

in the olden days we all used to grow our own vegetables


we still sould grow are own if we can. the food has lost it's nutrients.

I think if people stopped reading all the "statistics"

statistics don't lie.
Oct 20, 2012 10:25 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Saviour66
Saviour66Saviour66Betty Ford Clinic, Sodermanland Sweden33 Threads 235 Posts
I´m not an expert on US politics,and not putting to much focus on it either,but I truly admire some current and former politicians,-Ron Paul and the greatest man ever walked this earth,-Lord Patrick j.Buchanan...

So my question is,since you´re very updated with US politics,what are your views on these extraordinary men?

Just curious....
Oct 20, 2012 10:43 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
The coming Monday night debate is on foreign policies. One that potentially has great international repercussions....is the South China Sea area were China, Phillipine, Vet Nam, Japan and others tug for control on some small islands. Islands with a large oil field underneath.

To date...the US has not sent any major warship to the area. But that just changed....as the Washington Battle Carrier group from Japan just arrived.

Now this is the same Battle Carrier group that deployed from Japan to the Yellow sea to keep North Korea from shelling more of South Korea. So without the USS Washington in region to monitor North Korea....what does North Korea do? Threatens South Korea with military actions for leaflet balloons.



Clearly President Obama sent and timed the Washington's deployment to the South China sea area for the debate. I know millions in fuel is being wasted for a photo opt. But he wanted to take a arrow from the Romney quiver.

But now he just proved Romney's main assertion. That we need a large Navy because we don't have the fleet size to take on all these multiple situation and threats. Because if there was a second battle career fleet in Japan.....North Korea would not be threatening South Korea with aggression over some leaflets....many that carry a $1...for food to the North.

Just like Robin Hood. All Romney has to do is string two arrows on the bow, Monday night.....and he can place two arrows into Obama's foreign policy and his shift of the US military focus to Asia and the Pacific rim. One for his DoD defense cuts. One for mismanaging the North Korean/South Korea situation.
Oct 20, 2012 10:51 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Saviour66: I´m not an expert on US politics,and not putting to much focus on it either,but I truly admire some current and former politicians,-Ron Paul and the greatest man ever walked this earth,-Lord Patrick j.Buchanan...

So my question is,since you´re very updated with US politics,what are your views on these extraordinary men?

Just curious....


Don't worry about not being a expert on US politics. The threads OP is hardly one either.....so feel free to shout out your opinions of men and women in American politics.

As for Ron Paul....he knows his budget stuff.....but his views on the world are not accepted by most Americans.

A slight correction is needed....though Buchanan would enjoy being called a Lord.....we bumped the British out a long time ago. It is not one of our titles now...))....though I suspect DEMs in Congress will soon make a bill for making President Obama...a Prince Obama if this election goes badly for him.

Buchanan is a solid conservative America politician. He knows the debate areas and the pitfalls. He just was sidelined as being 'to far right'.....to make it on the big stage of Washington.
Oct 20, 2012 11:19 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
So, if I understand what you are saying, is that if Romney wins, he will support Japan against China?

Well that will be fun, Have you any idea why there is such hatred of the Japanese by the Chinese??

Believe me, if there is a war between China and Japan, and America becomes involved, this will be the war that ends all wars.





When Japan accepts responsibility for what they did, maybe, just maybe the relationship between the two countries will somewhat improve, but while they (the Japanese)continue to rewrite history and deny it every happened, any tiny excuse is one China will latch onto. They will never lose face again!!!

So before all you right wingers rush into yet another conflict, I suggest you find out something about your so called Japanese Allies, and if they are really worth dying for!!
Oct 20, 2012 11:22 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
JeanKimberley: please stop! I wish people would just stop thinking that if the "right" man, their man is elected president that america will get back on track. Although I am a big fan of Obamas - I don't care for the republican agenda - I still think that economic recovery will take more than 4 years - and our foreign agenda is better served with the democrats in office -

when you say things for few americans will forgive such a cold heartless blunder - just speak for yourself - cause you can't speak for a few americans - you can only speak for one american - yourself.

although your opinions are valuable - sometimes..... it is just too too much for me


Wow Jean ! Hey! Please Stay and do NOT leave me alone with all these defenders of darkness and Stupidity of the dang Bushney,s and their never evolving ideology of Greed and Selfishness! cheers thumbs up yay hug
Oct 20, 2012 11:26 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Sorry Jean... But that works both ways. We've had to sit listening for YEARS to a blatently biased media shape public opinion by distorting the facts - AND an administration that has been pumping out lies and misinformation.

I did not say ALL Americans... I said few Americans. I do not make large sweeping statements presenting them as "facts" the way our friend Dude does.

I am not very interested in confronting anyone here or anywhere else. But I will not sit back and let this liberal spin machine continue to sweep BIG problems and BIG lies under the rug.


... and you keep beleiving all americnas are dang GOP supporters my dear blushing
Oct 20, 2012 11:27 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude: Wow Jean ! Hey! Please Stay and do NOT leave me alone with all these defenders of darkness and Stupidity of the dang Bushney,s and their never evolving ideology of Greed and Selfishness!


Oct 20, 2012 11:28 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
JeanKimberley: ya for sure - Dude is a muckraker....

I am find all this pre election stuff 2 much - let's just get to the polls and vote - the election is just one small portion of how our country works -

I found that the years with Bush took our country down a dark and destructive path and we are moving in the right direction with the democrats in power now - why mess with a good thing - let him finish the job he set out to complete.


This is Exactly All I Say as well... but all right I am telling it in a more Romantic and Nice way laugh
Oct 20, 2012 11:36 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: But don't you see? Much of what shaped your opinions was the biased media pumping out information that was deliberately cherry-picked to persuade Americans to think that way.

In the meantime, they deliberately cherry-picked the Obama coverage (or LACK of coverage) to get him elected.

If a conservative with no background and serious questionable ties to terrorists and other criminals ran for president, the biased media would have been all over the candidate and would have never let him see the light of a voting booth.


Which no background and what serious questionable ties to what terorrists Wish4? You might talk a bout Mcweigh and 'Bundy both "good" old fashioned kind of GOP heads Right? or was it Reagan and his creation of OBL by takin g him out of dirth and giving him a huge terror organisation which caused 9/11 later on Right? or the dang Manchurian candidate from Panama... aham? roll eyes
Oct 20, 2012 11:39 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
purr4mance: It’s called the what you wish for news service. Whatever pops into its head.


... and I am Hot Single Dude and I approve this message thumbs up
Oct 20, 2012 11:46 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Agreed - but as one who holds a degree in Journalism, I can tell you this is not how the subject is (WAS) taught. The emphasis was on objectivity and how to construct a story in ways to AVOID media bias.

That all went out the window when George Soros started buying up the medis.


Is THAT FH Murdoch and his dang FOX and Talil and shi* who got most media any way... Had a nightmare or some thing? confused
Oct 20, 2012 11:50 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
purr4mance: Ouch! "Salt Lake Tribune," Citing Romney's 47-Percent Rant, Endorses Obama

Then the Tribune slams him as an opportunistic and untrustworthy shape-shifter:
From his embrace of the party’s radical right wing, to subsequent portrayals of himself as a moderate champion of the middle class, Romney has raised the most frequently asked question of the campaign: "Who is this guy, really, and what in the world does he truly believe?"
The evidence suggests no clear answer, or at least one that would survive Romney’s next speech or sound bite. Politicians routinely tailor their words to suit an audience. Romney, though, is shameless, lavishing vastly diverse audiences with words, any words, they would trade their votes to hear.
It gets worse. The paper ridicules his refusal to provide specifics for his tax plan. And it ends with Romney's 47-percent rant:
If this portrait of a Romney willing to say anything to get elected seems harsh, we need only revisit his branding of 47 percent of Americans as freeloaders who pay no taxes, yet feel victimized and entitled to government assistance. His job, he told a group of wealthy donors, "is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
Where, we ask, is the pragmatic, inclusive Romney, the Massachusetts governor who left the state with a model health care plan in place, the Romney who led Utah to Olympic glory? That Romney skedaddled and is nowhere to be found.
They say you're never a hero in your own hometown. But here's a case in which Romney is pummeled by those who know him well and who yearn for the Romney they once saw. That Romney is long gone.


Republicans can not read you know dunno moping
Oct 20, 2012 11:53 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Najdi
NajdiNajdiSkopje, Macedonia3 Threads 4 Polls 22 Posts
Conrad73: OMG,another ACORN-Poll!


rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 20, 2012 11:54 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TTom50: Good to see you back Dude. I was starting to to think that you had ......seen the light. Realized that last four years of posting, blogging, criticizing, angering, harping, obfiscating, shaming, and demeaning for President Obama had been a waste. Decided to sit out the 2012.

Well now Obama campaign is down to being pitiful....that according to Mitt Romney. I had kind of thought that it got there years ago. Oh sorry, I miss read they....Mitt Romney says it has gotten ...petty



When you really think about it...political correctness....is being
petty. Yes? It that not what we have lived with the last 4 years.
We cannot do the Keystone....because ground water might be polluted.
They have cleanup ground water oil spills in the past. We cannot do offshore oil drilling because.....PB's oil spill. But we got that under control.

Being petty and politically correct....is just a way to live in fear......fear something is going to happen. Of course something is going to happen. You can either shape the events or you can be political correct and ignore things.

Ignore all the warnings on troubles coming to Benghazi for the lightly secured consulate. The very day of the attack, Amb. Steven email Washington for more security. It was ignored.

Political correctness at work. Take President Obama most recent discription of the event....."they were not optimal".....Jon Stewart talked him into using the cold assessment of the events. But he weal will followed and said.

The Mother of one of the dead SEALs just went public on his heartless comment.



More in the country are seeing this shady side of President Obama, Dude. It is not so dark really....just that he get talked into saying things like this when off script. The Russians have done it to him. Liberals in his White House have done it to him. Muslims have done to him. He just repeats the given position, without thinking it through.

Been reading Edwards Klines....Amateur....here is a quote from Obama Doctor that knew his for over 20 years in Chicago.....Dr. Schiemer said this.....Schiemer is liberal and supports 'socialized medicine'...."I look at his helath are program and I can't see how it can work, he has no cost control in his program. The CBO said it is going to be incredibly expensive....and the thing I am worried about is, if it is the failure that I think it would set health reform back a long time."

Then.....

"My main objection to Barack Obama is that is a great speaker and a lousy communicator. He isn't getting his message across to the people. He is not showing that he really cares. To this day he hasn't communicated with members of Congress."

Then....

"He's got academic University of Chicago-type people around him that
don't care."

and

"I can really related to people, but I never related to him. I never had a closeness with him that I had with other patients."

Finally

Obama has academic detachment, I treated many from the University of Chicago faculty and I've been able to crack thru their academic detachment. Not Obama. We never got to where we'd discuss intimate things. For instance I never heard anything about his family life. Other patient invited me to dinner and their homes, but Obama never did. Obama invited his barber to his inauguration-his barber. But I was not invited. Believe me, that hurt."

page 16-17


Good to see you too TT, and NO! I will NEVER sourrender to forces of darkness and Stupidity whose followers are gathered around them for some dang bread crumbs scold tongue
Oct 20, 2012 11:59 AM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: ORLANDO SENTINAL ENDORSES ROMNEY AFTER BACKING OBAMA IN 2008

Four years after throwing its support behind then-presidential candidate Barack Obama, the Orlando Sentinel is saying it's time to change course.

In an editorial announcing the paper's endorsement of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, the editorial board of the large Florida daily delivers some harsh criticisms of the president, while admitting that they're not entirely satisfied with Romney's positions.

"We have little confidence that Obama would be more successful managing the economy and the budget in the next four years," the editorial board writes, after outlining their displeasure with nagging deficits and a slow economic recovery. "For that reason, though we endorsed him in 2008, we are recommending Romney in this race."

The editorial goes on to accuse Obama of not pursuing sufficient bipartisan efforts to tackle the debt and deficit, while praising Romney for making entitlement reform a prominent campaign issue. The paper also makes clear that its opposition to Obama doesn't stem from conspiracy theories or fringe arguments about his supposed lack of patriotism, and that its support for Romney doesn't come without some reservations


...and the Honorable former republican Governer of Florida kind of served a full plate of Crap for the dang GOP of today and what it have become because of Greed during THE Honorable gathering of DNC 2012 :



And a silly old guy talked to an empty chair when your bloody guys wanted to make a point rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 20, 2012 12:00 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
rizlared: So, if I understand what you are saying, is that if Romney wins, he will support Japan against China?

Well that will be fun, Have you any idea why there is such hatred of the Japanese by the Chinese??

Believe me, if there is a war between China and Japan, and America becomes involved, this will be the war that ends all wars.





When Japan accepts responsibility for what they did, maybe, just maybe the relationship between the two countries will somewhat improve, but while they (the Japanese)continue to rewrite history and deny it every happened, any tiny excuse is one China will latch onto. They will never lose face again!!!

So before all you right wingers rush into yet another conflict, I suggest you find out something about your so called Japanese Allies, and if they are really worth dying for!!


We know only to well of the Japanese WWII abuses, Liz. Many Americans civilian and military were in their POW camps. We had trials after WWII that found many of the Japanese command guilty of the atrocities and they were sentenced to be hung or have prison time.

In fact.....China was one of the parties that took part in the atrocity trials.



60 years later, China want to continue this.....in the court of public opinion, when it was settled post WWII in court.

Japan has a right as a government to buy land and islands. It has bought the South Sea Island in good faith from the owner. China being a communist country, frowns on commercial enterprise of near every kind, unless it is to the benefit of the state.

If China felt so strongly of these island, following WWII. It had legal recourse at the time and since to do so. But after Japan land a ligit deal that would give it them mineral rights. Suddenly China wants them? And it is pressing Japanese recongtion events of WWII, that were litigated years ago?

Maybe the Chinese can begin to tell what happened to the 100s of American and European Christian missionaries that simply disappeared in the Mao years of the Great March....persecution that continues to today.



Oct 20, 2012 12:01 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TTom50: What many feel about CRowley bailing out Obama in the town hall are saying....



Crowley 82 questions to pick from. So knew what was going to be asked.
She admitted that she "research" this one. Pure liberal media bias was shown in the townhall.
You are already kind of sensing the Sweet taste of Victory to president Obama on November the 6th.... Ey? tongue
Oct 20, 2012 12:04 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: ...and the Honorable former republican Governer of Florida kind of served a full plate of Crap for the dang GOP of today and what it have become because of Greed during THE Honorable gathering of DNC 2012 :

Being a bundler is not exactly what I would call a honorable profession.....but it is one step above being a ambulance chaser.....

LOL..........





And a silly old guy talked to an empty chair when your bloody guys wanted to make a point
Oct 20, 2012 12:04 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TTom50: While Obama prepares for his final debate.....event around the world continue to spin out of control

NKorea threatens SKorea with military hostilities is leaflet from the south are sent north over the DMZ



A large car bomb was detonate in Beruit, the first in many years. It killed the Lebanon prosecutor that had connected the Syrians and Assad to the PM Raferkiti death years before. It happened near a school just as the student were being released.



Iran says Israel did it



At lease it was not a movie trailer.......

Here in the US....violent crime had it first increase in 20 years....it was up 18% and non violent crimes was up 11%



So why? Maybe because the poor economy has 47m drawing food stamps and one in 16 under the poverty line. And a President Obama that made division in the country between wealthy and poor....it is easier to pull that trigger when the person has been dehumanized....


And what should president Obama do then? Giving the Ring to THAT corporate raider Cult member Romney of OZ and calling it all off ? roll eyes
Oct 20, 2012 12:08 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
JeanKimberley: Food stamps is a state issued thing. Thank goodness more people are actually applying and receiving food - often times people like to use these "statistics" as a cause and effect.

Medicare fraud, mortgage fraud, identity are up - why because it exists now because of mass technology -

food stamp has increased because more people know about and apply for it and are eligible to receive it. in the olden days we all used to grow our own vegetables or if we lived in the rural areas we went to fresh markets - those days are gone.

I think if people stopped reading all the "statistics" and really looked around at their community and their neighborhoods.


THE Lady knows Exactly what she is talking a bout! Please Repubheads? LEARN some thing! yay
Oct 20, 2012 12:29 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TTom50: The coming Monday night debate is on foreign policies. One that potentially has great international repercussions....is the South China Sea area were China, Phillipine, Vet Nam, Japan and others tug for control on some small islands. Islands with a large oil field underneath.

To date...the US has not sent any major warship to the area. But that just changed....as the Washington Battle Carrier group from Japan just arrived.

Now this is the same Battle Carrier group that deployed from Japan to the Yellow sea to keep North Korea from shelling more of South Korea. So without the USS Washington in region to monitor North Korea....what does North Korea do? Threatens South Korea with military actions for leaflet balloons.



Clearly President Obama sent and timed the Washington's deployment to the South China sea area for the debate. I know millions in fuel is being wasted for a photo opt. But he wanted to take a arrow from the Romney quiver.

But now he just proved Romney's main assertion. That we need a large Navy because we don't have the fleet size to take on all these multiple situation and threats. Because if there was a second battle career fleet in Japan.....North Korea would not be threatening South Korea with aggression over some leaflets....many that carry a $1...for food to the North.

Just like Robin Hood. All Romney has to do is string two arrows on the bow, Monday night.....and he can place two arrows into Obama's foreign policy and his shift of the US military focus to Asia and the Pacific rim. One for his DoD defense cuts. One for mismanaging the North Korean/South Korea situation.


The reality mister TT is... no matter how many of those Titanium battle ships your guys are talking a bout are built and stuff like that... nations going to war they want to go to war... and then the world is better off having a president in America called Barack O´bama who is protecting America and America,s most important benefits rather than only keep thinking a bout some military contractor big funders of the dang GOP who are in line Waiting impatiently for new wars for the sake of the dang one procent Filty Rich America which LOVES wars and partying on when Wars and Terrorism florish !

No policeman of the world is Real any way when all counts then best with a president in America who can Think instead of a dang corporate Raider Leech like Romney whose number one concern is how to get more rich on new wars and simply beleives deep inside to hell with all dead or dammaged for life since they are not Mormons and a part of the Cult any way doh
Oct 20, 2012 12:31 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Good to see you too TT, and NO! I will NEVER sourrender to forces of darkness and Stupidity whose followers are gathered around them for some dang bread crumbs


I could quote the entire Kline book on Obama and it would not phase you.....

Kline has 200 long term associate of President Obama in the book, Dude. They have known him for years....

Here is another one.

Obama challenged Bobby Rush and got his clock cleaned.

He owes big debt on the lost. So he is trying to get donations to make a another run. He is introduced to a Chicago king maker...Hermene Hartman by Jim Rynolds. Both are big players in Chicago.

Hartman especially....he publishes the N'DIGO magazine.

He says this

"He (Obama) came to me and said this "I need you to raise $50,000 for me." I said "You are out of your mind. I don't have $50,000, and if I did. I would not give it to you."

Obama says "But I gotta get it. I opened up a office, turned on phones, the lights are on, and I gotta to move forward. C'mon think of something."

So I called a friend named Al Johnson, who was the first Afro-American to own a GM dealership. Johnson gave him the $50,000."

Hartmann says this "Obama was launched by black business people."

Hartmann connected Obama to Jesse Jackson....that gave him weekly speaking times on PUSH every Saturday.

Hartmann says..."Obama is not known for his loyalty.

Stephen Rogers, a wealthy black man that is a Professor at Northwestern University....met Obama on the golf course...."He was a unexpected addition to our foursome. He talked to me about a desire to run for the US Senate. He needed money to clear up his debt. I donated $3000. Then he begin to call and ask for donations to other DEM....including Tom Daschle....five in all....I give $2000 to each one.

He spoke to my students.

But after winning the Senate seat.....my students tried to contact him. But he would not answer their calls. So I called him. "Listen Senator I would like you to come." he says "Listen Stave, I cannot come. I'm just inudated with requests. I have governors calling me.
I have Warren Buffet calling me. I said "What about the money I gave you?" He says "Come on, man, you should know better with politicians that make promises."

"I was furious"

page 31-33

I was gentle here. Most on the later ocnversation was laced with four letter words.
Oct 20, 2012 12:37 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
rizlared: So, if I understand what you are saying, is that if Romney wins, he will support Japan against China?

Well that will be fun, Have you any idea why there is such hatred of the Japanese by the Chinese??

Believe me, if there is a war between China and Japan, and America becomes involved, this will be the war that ends all wars.





When Japan accepts responsibility for what they did, maybe, just maybe the relationship between the two countries will somewhat improve, but while they (the Japanese)continue to rewrite history and deny it every happened, any tiny excuse is one China will latch onto. They will never lose face again!!!

So before all you right wingers rush into yet another conflict, I suggest you find out something about your so called Japanese Allies, and if they are really worth dying for!!


This is because you Deinfately and with no doubts what so ever, know Exactly what you are talking a bout... and THEY do not have any ideas what so ever, or knowing the truth but are just spreding discount propoganda fabulously great for the angry mob and for the naiv and dumbasses and the final outcome of their propoganda will be Great for the FAT 1 procent if their propoganda works any way! thumbs up
Oct 20, 2012 12:42 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0Wiz1elwHU




Try your best and figur out why this video is the best answer for you Conrad roll eyes
Oct 20, 2012 12:55 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
TTom50: I could quote the entire Kline book on Obama and it would not phase you.....

Kline has 200 long term associate of President Obama in the book, Dude. They have known him for years....

Here is another one.

Obama challenged Bobby Rush and got his clock cleaned.

He owes big debt on the lost. So he is trying to get donations to make a another run. He is introduced to a Chicago king maker...Hermene Hartman by Jim Rynolds. Both are big players in Chicago.

Hartman especially....he publishes the N'DIGO magazine.

He says this

"He (Obama) came to me and said this "I need you to raise $50,000 for me." I said "You are out of your mind. I don't have $50,000, and if I did. I would not give it to you."

Obama says "But I gotta get it. I opened up a office, turned on phones, the lights are on, and I gotta to move forward. C'mon think of something."

So I called a friend named Al Johnson, who was the first Afro-American to own a GM dealership. Johnson gave him the $50,000."

Hartmann says this "Obama was launched by black business people."

Hartmann connected Obama to Jesse Jackson....that gave him weekly speaking times on PUSH every Saturday.

Hartmann says..."Obama is not known for his loyalty.

Stephen Rogers, a wealthy black man that is a Professor at Northwestern University....met Obama on the golf course...."He was a unexpected addition to our foursome. He talked to me about a desire to run for the US Senate. He needed money to clear up his debt. I donated $3000. Then he begin to call and ask for donations to other DEM....including Tom Daschle....five in all....I give $2000 to each one.

He spoke to my students.

But after winning the Senate seat.....my students tried to contact him. But he would not answer their calls. So I called him. "Listen Senator I would like you to come." he says "Listen Stave, I cannot come. I'm just inudated with requests. I have governors calling me.
I have Warren Buffet calling me. I said "What about the money I gave you?" He says "Come on, man, you should know better with politicians that make promises."

"I was furious"

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I was gentle here. Most on the later ocnversation was laced with four letter words.


Then asboloutely great for the dang GOP having a beleiver of THAT anti humanity tax cheater organisation cult thingy is representing them:



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Oct 20, 2012 12:57 PM CST THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney?
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Hot_Single_Dude: The reality mister TT is... no matter how many of those Titanium battle ships your guys are talking a bout are built and stuff like that... nations going to war they want to go to war... and then the world is better off having a president in America called Barack O´bama who is protecting America and America,s most important benefits rather than only keep thinking a bout some military contractor big funders of the dang GOP who are in line Waiting impatiently for new wars for the sake of the dang one procent Filty Rich America which LOVES wars and partying on when Wars and Terrorism florish !

No policeman of the world is Real any way when all counts then best with a president in America who can Think instead of a dang corporate Raider Leech like Romney whose number one concern is how to get more rich on new wars and simply beleives deep inside to hell with all dead or dammaged for life since they are not Mormons and a part of the Cult any way


We just came to out second agreement in 4 years of bloggin.

I do agree nations want to war. So I want our people in the fastest, most battle ready ship on the Ocean....the titamium hulled ship is just that. I want a singe US Navy ship out there that will make the entire Spanish Armada turn tail and run.....grin
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