THE President Actually! Preisdent Obama or President Romney? (882)
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TTom50: That would explain why Penetta is so proud of his brick from Pakistan and the bin Laden raid. Ever hear Obama or Biden say that they got a brick? I have not.
So Penetta orders the bin Laden raid without the White House knowing about it. After they had several earlier attempts that the White House had sqlaushed. I remember Biden saying he warned Obama not to do it.
So they have to make Obama look like the decision maker. So they false up the official version of the raid with the 300 pages to the movie producers. Saying Obama 'knew from the beginning and had total command control of the training and operation'. Then when that get disputed by the Navy Seal Team Chief's version.....
No wonder the the Navy Chief was calling Biden a "drunkard" at the award diner. They knew the White House did not support the mission.
But they are determined to do the mission. And they have Penetta orders for one.
So they don't say a word until the mission is in Pakistani airspace to the White House or Obama and Biden....that the mission is on....
then the White House cannot sqlaushed or abort the mission....easily.
And Petreaus and the CIA are behind the scene providing the intell for the mission.
This definetly sounds like SEALs to me. Wait till the old timers from my Dad unit hear this in their coming Janaury reunion....they will go nuts..... That is the American military taking the initiative! Way to go guys!!!
So Penetta orders the bin Laden raid without the White House knowing about it. After they had several earlier attempts that the White House had sqlaushed. I remember Biden saying he warned Obama not to do it.
So they have to make Obama look like the decision maker. So they false up the official version of the raid with the 300 pages to the movie producers. Saying Obama 'knew from the beginning and had total command control of the training and operation'. Then when that get disputed by the Navy Seal Team Chief's version.....
No wonder the the Navy Chief was calling Biden a "drunkard" at the award diner. They knew the White House did not support the mission.
But they are determined to do the mission. And they have Penetta orders for one.
So they don't say a word until the mission is in Pakistani airspace to the White House or Obama and Biden....that the mission is on....
then the White House cannot sqlaushed or abort the mission....easily.
And Petreaus and the CIA are behind the scene providing the intell for the mission.
This definetly sounds like SEALs to me. Wait till the old timers from my Dad unit hear this in their coming Janaury reunion....they will go nuts..... That is the American military taking the initiative! Way to go guys!!!
I think it is a highly plausible story, and it's not the first time the subject has been presented - but this story has more facts and actual names attached.
Have no idea if this is Trump's news though. For all we know, he could have a picture of Obama eating another dog.
WhatUwish4: I think it is a highly plausible story, and it's not the first time the subject has been presented - but this story has more facts and actual names attached.
Have no idea if this is Trump's news though. For all we know, he could have a picture of Obama eating another dog.
more like Dog ate his Lunch and Cat drank his Milk!Have no idea if this is Trump's news though. For all we know, he could have a picture of Obama eating another dog.
WhatUwish4: There's no reason to assume this will be Trump's news - but it IS intersting that both pieces of news crossed my desk at the same time.
Moreover, considering bin Laden is Obama's only real constructive accomplishment during this presidency, it would explain Trump's certainty that his news is "BIG."
Moreover, considering bin Laden is Obama's only real constructive accomplishment during this presidency, it would explain Trump's certainty that his news is "BIG."
It would also explain why the White House did not know really what was going on in the bin Laden raid. Like Benghazi they have real time imagery that they are seeing.
Now if you have seen practices runs of the mission done dozen times....it is easy to analysis the video you see. But you see it one time....without a good explanation.....that is different deal.
Just a moment. I want to check something.
Here is the photos from the situation room. See a SEAL Officer there? NO See a Navy officer there? NO. Just a single USAF Colonel that is working the imagery feeds.
Now if you a service branch and was doing the biggest mission of the War on Terrorism....you would have a representative in the situation room with the President doing a blow by blow description on the mission. But there is not a SEAL or Navy man in the room.
It sure seems like GOP supporters got an edge in this poll of mine so far... but will it last? Come on folks! Vote and Kick the butt of these supporters of the sad and mad reaminings of the Bushney,s Evil Empire!
TTom50: With a 112,168 voting in a yahoo poll that asked the question....
Does the administration's handling of the Libyan attack effect your vote?
55% said that it did
45% said that it didnot.
Does the administration's handling of the Libyan attack effect your vote?
55% said that it did
45% said that it didnot.
Uninstalling Obama......... ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦ 90% complete.
TTom50: It would also explain why the White House did not know really what was going on in the bin Laden raid. Like Benghazi they have real time imagery that they are seeing.
Now if you have seen practices runs of the mission done dozen times....it is easy to analysis the video you see. But you see it one time....without a good explanation.....that is different deal.
Just a moment. I want to check something.
Here is the photos from the situation room. See a SEAL Officer there? NO See a Navy officer there? NO. Just a single USAF Colonel that is working the imagery feeds.
Now if you a service branch and was doing the biggest mission of the War on Terrorism....you would have a representative in the situation room with the President doing a blow by blow description on the mission. But there is not a SEAL or Navy man in the room.
Now if you have seen practices runs of the mission done dozen times....it is easy to analysis the video you see. But you see it one time....without a good explanation.....that is different deal.
Just a moment. I want to check something.
Here is the photos from the situation room. See a SEAL Officer there? NO See a Navy officer there? NO. Just a single USAF Colonel that is working the imagery feeds.
Now if you a service branch and was doing the biggest mission of the War on Terrorism....you would have a representative in the situation room with the President doing a blow by blow description on the mission. But there is not a SEAL or Navy man in the room.
I need to be correct on this. The only service man in the photo....is USAF Special Operations I think. He has the CIB Combat Infantry Badge and Jump Wing. I see him as a Colonel. But he might be a Major. but those kinds of awards are given to USAF SoF. USAF SoF flew the helo on the bin Laden mission.
But He is certainly not a SEAL or Navy.
Also note the screens on the laptops on the table. They are all turned off. Like this was hastily called meeting. If the meeting been planned....they would all be on. Hillary does not even have note book open.
No wonder Obama was on the edge of the chair. He did not know that this mission was going on.....his entire Presidency was going on the screens in front of him.
Look at the smirk on Gates face. He knows what is going on here. LOL....as DoD Sectretary he and General Petreuas of CINCOMM have set this up with Penetta and the CIA.......
But this explains the post raid Administration leaks of the SEAL team. They had stepped outside the Chain of Command to do the raid.
TTom50: Remember I said Jordan was the one "moderate" Islamic country you had?
Here is what you want for a Islamic country that detects a coming terrorist attack to do.
Now the Libyan government gave Obama a three day warning of the pending attack. But did nothing to prevent it. That is why you can place Libya into the column of new Islamic extremist governments.
Here is what you want for a Islamic country that detects a coming terrorist attack to do.
Now the Libyan government gave Obama a three day warning of the pending attack. But did nothing to prevent it. That is why you can place Libya into the column of new Islamic extremist governments.
It is because Jordan got a government and Libya is still a young new country which got to stand up and rebuilding it self after a reveloution
Hot_Single_Dude: It is because Jordan got a government and Libya is still a young new country which got to stand up and rebuilding it self after a reveloution
Sorry it doesnot fly Dude. Most of the militia in Benghazi were under of the control of the government. In fact one sent a 60 man fast response force with 5 British security the night of the raid.
The libyan could have stopped it before it started..........just with additional security at the Consulate.
TTom50: http://www.marconews.com/news/2012/oct/21/workers-us-wire-billions-dollars-latin-america/?partner=yahoo_feeds
If you read this article closely....one of the clerks sending hispanic checks to South America and Mexico....says "I don't know how they live on $60 dollars a week"
Because after they send them money out of the country....all they have left is the $60 dollar.
So how do they do it?
Food stamps.
Even though they are working, they file for and get food stamps.
That gives them $21,000 per year in food or in money.
We are subsidizing the hispanic that are here ...both legal and illegal...with our food stamp program.
This is why Obama has placed nearly a 1T into food stamps. It subsidizes the work and pay of Hispanic in the country.
Now I am not against the hispanic living in the US. I am not against the needy getting food stamps. But here you have the cases of 1000s working hispanic using the food stamp program illegally and fraudlently. And a Obama government that has increased the funds for
food stamps 100% in the last four years. The FED have not tied this together?
The 600b to 700b bloat in the food stamp program....could go to our kids in school lunch programs....our foreign debt in food sales....our foreign aid to 3rd world countries......to making bio energy fuels....all very legal and noble causes.
Instead
It is in part going to 12m illegal and their families outside of the country. It is also going to the legal hipanics that are here playing the system.
If you read this article closely....one of the clerks sending hispanic checks to South America and Mexico....says "I don't know how they live on $60 dollars a week"
Because after they send them money out of the country....all they have left is the $60 dollar.
So how do they do it?
Food stamps.
Even though they are working, they file for and get food stamps.
That gives them $21,000 per year in food or in money.
We are subsidizing the hispanic that are here ...both legal and illegal...with our food stamp program.
This is why Obama has placed nearly a 1T into food stamps. It subsidizes the work and pay of Hispanic in the country.
Now I am not against the hispanic living in the US. I am not against the needy getting food stamps. But here you have the cases of 1000s working hispanic using the food stamp program illegally and fraudlently. And a Obama government that has increased the funds for
food stamps 100% in the last four years. The FED have not tied this together?
The 600b to 700b bloat in the food stamp program....could go to our kids in school lunch programs....our foreign debt in food sales....our foreign aid to 3rd world countries......to making bio energy fuels....all very legal and noble causes.
Instead
It is in part going to 12m illegal and their families outside of the country. It is also going to the legal hipanics that are here playing the system.
And where the Trillion is from TT? Where? When? How? Get a freaking Calculator for gud sake
And beside why shall it be your business if people want to help their families in their home countries? Being Nosey in peoples private lives is a Sin not issuing Food stamps for the needy mister wanna be the one and only beleiver
TTom50: Gee and he out raised Mitt Romney by 10m dollar last month. Ran a DNC that was only 1/2 the projected cost. And is selling cup mugs for $22.50.......one has wonder has to wonder were all the money goes.....
Defeating the inner enemy of America which is the the dang American taliban costs money mister TT
WhatUwish4: With his track record on debt and spending, I'm just surprised anyone would loan him anything.
And to think homeowners have to beg for a mortgage.
And to think homeowners have to beg for a mortgage.
And the main uestion is why THAT FAT filty rich tax cheater with secret accounts in crook states corporate raider of urs borrowing a 20 million then?
Hot_Single_Dude: And where the Trillion is from TT? Where? When? How? Get a freaking Calculator for gud sake
And beside why shall it be your business if people want to help their families in their home countries? Being Nosey in peoples private lives is a Sin not issuing Food stamps for the needy mister wanna be the one and only beleiver
And beside why shall it be your business if people want to help their families in their home countries? Being Nosey in peoples private lives is a Sin not issuing Food stamps for the needy mister wanna be the one and only beleiver
I sited Senator Session in the original post on food stamps, Dude. He has learned that the food stamp program in 2011 was 1+t.
Wish has done your thread a real favor Dude. She has brought it to our attention....that Obama did not order the bin Laden raid. Your thread will be a hit with the media and all of the net soon. With all the follow up and dot connecting we have doing on it. It will be in major networks and even FOX soon.
Really you should thank Wish.....
Really you should thank Wish.....
TTom50: Here is a American that Obama and the DEM have taken 716b of their medicare funding from.....voting for his last time.
Frank Tanabee a WWII vet....was a member of the Japanese American 442nd Regiment.... were he was in the Intell section.....a highly decorated unit that fought against Germany. Tanabee volunteered for the Army after WWII and stepped away from his college work.
President Obama and the DEM have taken 716b from the WWII veteran and their spouses that are now in the very golden years. Some say they are dieing at a rate of 1500 per day now.
Yet that matter little to this Administration. That has to have the ACA and needed their funds that was earmarked for Medicare. No one back during the 2010 townhall debate on the ACA...said....well we are only going to take $716b from you. DEM hid the fact pretty well.
Until that Supreme Court ruling made the ACA a tax. Then suddenly you have the transfer of the 716b to the ACA from Medicare, a one way trip. How can the the ACA (a tax) ever put 716b back into medicare (a multi-government program of state and the FED government)? Specially when the ACA cost is projected to be near a 1t a year itself.
No, seniors like Mr. Tanabee...that have fought for...made the country with their own hands....and kept its laws by their honorable lives. The Obama administration robs them of the medicare that they paid into all their lives.
I cannot think of a greater disgrace in the 245 years of the countries history, than the ACA.
This is the most recent revision of the CBO cost projection of the ACA
Frank Tanabee a WWII vet....was a member of the Japanese American 442nd Regiment.... were he was in the Intell section.....a highly decorated unit that fought against Germany. Tanabee volunteered for the Army after WWII and stepped away from his college work.
President Obama and the DEM have taken 716b from the WWII veteran and their spouses that are now in the very golden years. Some say they are dieing at a rate of 1500 per day now.
Yet that matter little to this Administration. That has to have the ACA and needed their funds that was earmarked for Medicare. No one back during the 2010 townhall debate on the ACA...said....well we are only going to take $716b from you. DEM hid the fact pretty well.
Until that Supreme Court ruling made the ACA a tax. Then suddenly you have the transfer of the 716b to the ACA from Medicare, a one way trip. How can the the ACA (a tax) ever put 716b back into medicare (a multi-government program of state and the FED government)? Specially when the ACA cost is projected to be near a 1t a year itself.
No, seniors like Mr. Tanabee...that have fought for...made the country with their own hands....and kept its laws by their honorable lives. The Obama administration robs them of the medicare that they paid into all their lives.
I cannot think of a greater disgrace in the 245 years of the countries history, than the ACA.
This is the most recent revision of the CBO cost projection of the ACA
TTom50: The USAF Space Plane X-37 has been grounded till mid November.
A report seeking a accident investigation has been requested by the senior USAF officer on the program. These can lead to a declaration that a act of sabotage has damaged the booster that will place the USAF reuseable space platform.
Flying super secret missions, the X-37 was developed during the GWB years. And is now flying under the Obama administration. The US has two X-37s. The Obama administration has told the Chinese and Russian governments that are very concerned about the missions of the X-37...that only two will be built.
With the recent compromise of a another Russian spy ring in the country.....one has to wonder if the Russians have managed to penetrate the top secret security of X-37. If so, this would be a major security failure of the Obama administration.
A report seeking a accident investigation has been requested by the senior USAF officer on the program. These can lead to a declaration that a act of sabotage has damaged the booster that will place the USAF reuseable space platform.
Flying super secret missions, the X-37 was developed during the GWB years. And is now flying under the Obama administration. The US has two X-37s. The Obama administration has told the Chinese and Russian governments that are very concerned about the missions of the X-37...that only two will be built.
With the recent compromise of a another Russian spy ring in the country.....one has to wonder if the Russians have managed to penetrate the top secret security of X-37. If so, this would be a major security failure of the Obama administration.
And where in your mumbo jumbo Yahoo which is your favourite kind of media... is there any thing a bout Russians have spied on the program?
Conrad73: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/21/cbs-news-affiliate-calls-2012-presidential-race-for-barack-obama-weeks-ahead-of-election/
The 2012 presidential election is still more than two weeks away, but on Friday a CBS News affiliate in Arizona called the race for President Barack Obama.
For 17 seconds, Phoenix, Arizona CBS News affiliate KPHO ran a lower third graphic that showed that Obama had won the Nov. 6 election over Gov. Mitt Romney with 99% of the precincts reporting. The lower third graphic appeared around 3:30 p.m. on Oct. 19, during an episode of “The People’s Court.”
The CBS News graphic showed Obama winning the election with 43 percent of the vote nationwide to Romney’s 40 percent -– or 40,237,966 votes to 38,116,216. It is unclear who garnered the other 17 percent in the fictional election results.
KPHO’s general manager did not return The Daily Caller’s request for comment by time of publication.
The 2012 presidential election is still more than two weeks away, but on Friday a CBS News affiliate in Arizona called the race for President Barack Obama.
For 17 seconds, Phoenix, Arizona CBS News affiliate KPHO ran a lower third graphic that showed that Obama had won the Nov. 6 election over Gov. Mitt Romney with 99% of the precincts reporting. The lower third graphic appeared around 3:30 p.m. on Oct. 19, during an episode of “The People’s Court.”
The CBS News graphic showed Obama winning the election with 43 percent of the vote nationwide to Romney’s 40 percent -– or 40,237,966 votes to 38,116,216. It is unclear who garnered the other 17 percent in the fictional election results.
KPHO’s general manager did not return The Daily Caller’s request for comment by time of publication.
None of your dang business Grumpy
Hot_Single_Dude: And where in your mumbo jumbo Yahoo which is your favourite kind of media... is there any thing a bout Russians have spied on the program?
If you would have read the article...you would note that the officer of the X-37 ordered a accident investigation report on the Atlas V booster.....so some tampering might have been done to the missile.
We just has a Russian spy ring compromised.....so seem logical that they might be connected......
Would not hurt to find out, right?
TTom50: Sorry to read your are in pain, Montemonte....
Ok So President Obama fathered Kim K....who fathered the other Kardashians? Maybe that is the Donald breaking news!
Ok So President Obama fathered Kim K....who fathered the other Kardashians? Maybe that is the Donald breaking news!
I guess it might be a bout Trumps hemorrhoids which have began to grow inside his head as well, and helping him seeing thngs others can,t see
Hot_Single_Dude: I guess it might be a bout Trumps hemorrhoids which have began to grow inside his head as well, and helping him seeing thngs others can,t see
I think Wish is on to something Dude. The Don might be breaking the news that Obama did not order the bin Laden raid.....
TTom50: I think Wish is on to something Dude. The Don might be breaking the news that Obama did not order the bin Laden raid.....
I don't know if The Donald has this in mind - but who knows??? Maybe Romney will break it tonight instead!
Kidding - but wouldn't that be a hoot? In front of 60 million viewers? See Obama's jaw drop and flap. WhatUwish4: Maybe they did it to distract voters from the news that three of our leading anti-American world leaders have now endorsed Obama.
"President Obama appears to getting reelection support from three world leaders notorious for their anti-American views.
Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, after winning a fourth term earlier this month, reportedly said he would vote for Obama and that the president would likely vote for him.
The socialist-leaning ruler also reportedly called Obama a “good guy.”
His support follows that of the Castro family, which has ruled Cuba under a communist dictatorship for more than 50 years.
In June, Mariela Castro, the daughter of Cuban President Raul Castro, said in a CNN interview, translated into English: “As a citizen of the world, I would like (Obama) to win.”
And Russian President Vladimir Putin -- who is back in Moscow's driver's seat after a stint as prime minister -- has said the reelection of Obama could improve political relations between the two countries.Read more:
"President Obama appears to getting reelection support from three world leaders notorious for their anti-American views.
Venezuela President Hugo Chavez, after winning a fourth term earlier this month, reportedly said he would vote for Obama and that the president would likely vote for him.
The socialist-leaning ruler also reportedly called Obama a “good guy.”
His support follows that of the Castro family, which has ruled Cuba under a communist dictatorship for more than 50 years.
In June, Mariela Castro, the daughter of Cuban President Raul Castro, said in a CNN interview, translated into English: “As a citizen of the world, I would like (Obama) to win.”
And Russian President Vladimir Putin -- who is back in Moscow's driver's seat after a stint as prime minister -- has said the reelection of Obama could improve political relations between the two countries.Read more:
Be sure most of world,s leaders want Obama to win since they hate new wars and Stupid conflicts with the US and BS and Hatered and return of the Stupid cold war and shi* like that and because they have certainly not forget how horrible a whole world suffered because of eight years of George W Bush! Do not find it odd if world leaders want more peace and prosperity... Don not mind that one stincly ultra right winger Bribed so called leader of Israel who beleives Hagee being the real president of US and undermining interests of Israel,s best firend and supporter... most of other leaders of nations do not want new conflicts and that is why they wish Obama to win I am sure. Only in Saudi and Iran and other middle eastern dictatorships and some countries which made billions on tortur empire of the stincky Bushney,s they want a Romney since Terrorism is always a big business for the dang one procent FAT rich of the entire planet Earth!
WhatUwish4: Poor Dude. It must really hurt to know Obama is more unpopular then Bush now.
You should look at _Bush popularity numbers from almost a year before he was leaving the Heck of the ouse Wish4 ... the dang butthead did not even have the support of a 25 procent of americans 
No Dude. It was the exact same time in his presidency as it is right now in Obama's...
WhatUwish4: If the dang mainstream media would just do it's job they could dig all this up themselves. It's infuriating that they aren't publishing known facts deliberately to influence public opinion.
People are going to be SHOCKED to learn what's planned for 2013 if Obama gets re-elected. Between the new taxes, the people getting kicked off Medicare, and the new EPA regs - we will be well and truly screwed. I fault the media for keeping them in the dark until it's too late.
People are going to be SHOCKED to learn what's planned for 2013 if Obama gets re-elected. Between the new taxes, the people getting kicked off Medicare, and the new EPA regs - we will be well and truly screwed. I fault the media for keeping them in the dark until it's too late.
Prpopoganda BS
If President Obama did not order the bin Laden raid.....it is worse than this UNC cheap shot by incoming 42 when the play was dead.
Because after the success raid....taken on the initiative of the SEAL and US Forces fighting in a war on terrorism...the Obama administration made them all targets by leaking them into the public.....for going outside the Chain of Command.
Because after the success raid....taken on the initiative of the SEAL and US Forces fighting in a war on terrorism...the Obama administration made them all targets by leaking them into the public.....for going outside the Chain of Command.
TTom50: The State of California has several tax proposals on the ballot this year. If both are passed....and the state gets its sales tax increase. When combined with the Obama taxes increase.....the average Californian will pay 52 cents of every dollar earned in taxes.
He will be working more for the state, than he is for his life or family.
But Governor Brown....taking a page from President Obama book....wants those taxes and to tax the California wealthy.
It is because of allot of things. But mainly because the state has over spent. It does have government going into bankpucty. Then you have CA high speed rail
High speed rail has to have a ground breaking by Dec 31 of this year. Or the FED will pull their funds from the project.
Guess what that does to the CA unemployment rate....next year.
And Governor Brown has run into environmental issues on the High Speed rail
So some are saying it is already dead.
But CA had just passed the funding for the high speed rail just two weeks earlier. Tying up billions in the state treasury.
CA only has 9 week to break ground on high speed rail....or the FED stop the funding share. 9 weeks to resolve the environment issues of people like the Seirra Club, Audobon Society and a host of other CA environmental group.
See it really does not matter if the wealthy get taxed more. And you have these large billion dollar projects to fund. The taxes of the middle class are going to raise. The only way to keep it from happening....is to go with smaller government.
He will be working more for the state, than he is for his life or family.
But Governor Brown....taking a page from President Obama book....wants those taxes and to tax the California wealthy.
It is because of allot of things. But mainly because the state has over spent. It does have government going into bankpucty. Then you have CA high speed rail
High speed rail has to have a ground breaking by Dec 31 of this year. Or the FED will pull their funds from the project.
Guess what that does to the CA unemployment rate....next year.
And Governor Brown has run into environmental issues on the High Speed rail
So some are saying it is already dead.
But CA had just passed the funding for the high speed rail just two weeks earlier. Tying up billions in the state treasury.
CA only has 9 week to break ground on high speed rail....or the FED stop the funding share. 9 weeks to resolve the environment issues of people like the Seirra Club, Audobon Society and a host of other CA environmental group.
See it really does not matter if the wealthy get taxed more. And you have these large billion dollar projects to fund. The taxes of the middle class are going to raise. The only way to keep it from happening....is to go with smaller government.
And I heard Jesus reveled himself last night to Romney and called high sped rail an Evil, thing and annoncement of coming anti Christ!
Hot_Single_Dude: And I heard Jesus reveled himself last night to Romney and called high sped rail an Evil, thing and annoncement of coming anti Christ!
High Speed rail is not evil.....just expensive.
Hey Doodles... Kiss my hat!
Hot_Single_Dude: Defeating the inner enemy of America which is the the dang American taliban costs money mister TT
You're right with the american taliban being Obamanation and it is costign a lot to get rid of him.
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