Should all British police officers bear arms? ( Archived) (35)

Jul 13, 2017 2:20 PM CSTShould all British police officers bear arms?
CreamyMint
CreamyMintCreamyMintSanVicente, Argentina2 Threads 1 Polls 59 Posts

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Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?
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Jul 13, 2017 2:36 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?


YES - Reluctantly- Given the latest activities an atrocities carried out by middle eastern influenced extremist and far right evil fanatics in our cities and towns. -- Recent on the street surveys with no political or media axes to grind have proved that the majority of the public asked that question say they would be re-assured by their presence, and even the armed police groups say hey have had many decent people of all nationalities and religions saying thank you to them and that they were pleased to talk to them. - Such is the trust building up again in that close and direct community policing. JMO
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Jul 13, 2017 3:25 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?


No !
There are plenty of special police officers , who are trained to combat any terror attack.
We don't want to be like the US , where police officers take the law into their own hands & shoot at random .
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Jul 13, 2017 3:29 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
MikeD12: YES - Reluctantly- Given the latest activities an atrocities carried out by middle eastern influenced extremist and far right evil fanatics in our cities and towns. -- Recent on the street surveys with no political or media axes to grind have proved that the majority of the public asked that question say they would be re-assured by their presence, and even the armed police groups say hey have had many decent people of all nationalities and religions saying thank you to them and that they were pleased to talk to them. - Such is the trust building up again in that close and direct community policing. JMO


What difference does it make if every police officer was armed? Random attacks will continue, regardless of arming !
It's the intelligence that needs to be step up,
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Jul 13, 2017 3:31 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?


Why not make it an even playing field among the good guys and bad guys. Give everyone in the UK rights to bear arms wherever and whenever they so choose wave
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Jul 13, 2017 3:51 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?


Yes. I live with Scarlet-coats...the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. I have no problem with seeing Officers representing the Crown to defend and protect me to bear arms. The RCMP are very reluctant to draw them, but, as empowered by Canadian law, the are armed, and if need be, can draw upon lethal force in the discharge of their duty. I would expect no less from UK police forces.
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Jul 13, 2017 3:54 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
galrads: Why not make it an even playing field among the good guys and bad guys. Give everyone in the UK rights to bear arms wherever and whenever they so choose


Holy crap....that would be too much like the USA or Russia! We are still civil within the Commonwealth! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 13, 2017 3:58 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
no. arming the police to shoot is wrong.....but using MIKE..D12.....as a target pratice is right.....professor rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 13, 2017 4:05 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
truheart1941: no. arming the police to shoot is wrong.....but using MIKE..D12.....as a target pratice is right.....


I Hope they don't aim for his chopper .. They'll never find a target that small dunno laugh
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Jul 13, 2017 4:07 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
truheart1941: no. arming the police to shoot is wrong.....but using MIKE..D12.....as a target pratice is right.....


So seriously, you wish your constables to be "meter-maids?" I am a retired Officer of the Crown. I never drew arms, but it was available had the need arisen. To arm an officer is not to arm them to shoot, but rather, to arm them to defend. The BIGGEST thing is you have to choose your officers carefully.
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Jul 13, 2017 4:12 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
One2note: I Hope they don't aim for his chopper .. They'll never find a target that small
..true...or even at his head a ricochet bullet.....can hurt someone else .....professor laugh
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Jul 13, 2017 4:17 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives: So seriously, you wish your constables to be "meter-maids?" I am a retired Officer of the Crown. I never drew arms, but it was available had the need arisen. To arm an officer is not to arm them to shoot, but rather, to arm them to defend. The BIGGEST thing is you have to choose your officers carefully.
..being an arms exspert......oo7......I go it alone......professor snooty snooty snooty
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Jul 13, 2017 4:26 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
truheart1941: no. arming the police to shoot is wrong.....but using MIKE..D12.....as a target pratice is right.....
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing thumbs up
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Jul 13, 2017 4:36 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
..I would,nt shoot you FIFi.....you have 2 large holes in you already.....wow rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing....... comfort comfort laugh
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Jul 13, 2017 4:37 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
truheart1941: ..being an arms exspert......oo7......I go it alone......


I am armed, and former Blackwatch and PPCLI....but no matter....this is in regards to the police force. So? If a weapon is used in the commission of a crime in the UK, a call must go out for special para-military forces? Here in the "colonies" it takes a LOT of screening and training to be allowed a weapon, but they are granted, and I will be honest with you, it provides me with a degree of comfort and security. Then again....my home province is kn own to own several million weapons,,,,and I live right next door to the USA - those anti-gun pacifists!
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Jul 13, 2017 4:39 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
truheart1941: ..I would,nt shoot you FIFi.....you have 2 large holes in you already..... .......
rumours I tell ya professor My gravestone will be carved with the words "returned unopened" angel blushing
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Jul 13, 2017 4:52 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
fifitrixibelle: rumours I tell ya My gravestone will be carved with the words "returned unopened"
......comfort comfort just make sure your gravestone..is to one side....it could sink....slowly and disappear altogether...just saying....hug hug professor rolling on the floor laughing ..then....who would know....blues laugh
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Jul 13, 2017 4:55 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives: I am armed, and former Blackwatch and PPCLI....but no matter....this is in regards to the police force. So? If a weapon is used in the commission of a crime in the UK, a call must go out for special para-military forces? Here in the "colonies" it takes a LOT of screening and training to be allowed a weapon, but they are granted, and I will be honest with you, it provides me with a degree of comfort and security. Then again....my home province is kn own to own several million weapons,,,,and I live right next door to the USA - those anti-gun pacifists!
..true......professor but would that stop them from lobbing a mortar over the Rockies....????confused professor dunno rolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 13, 2017 5:02 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
truheart1941: ..true...... but would that stop them from lobbing a mortar over the Rockies....????


Okay colonial Father....why do you not wish to see your protectorate armed? Mortar over the Rockies? The question is...you wish your basic police force to be with whistles or weapons...those assigned to protect the populace>
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Jul 13, 2017 5:24 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
LaPiu
LaPiuLaPiuCopenhagen, Capital Region Denmark40 Threads 11 Polls 494 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?


How will the police defend anything or anybody with no arms???confused

Then we might as well stop having police on the streets & get under 18 y/o's - a lot cheaper!!! - who can just call the military & run quick if they spot trouble, JMO grin
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Jul 13, 2017 5:34 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
LaPiu: How will the police defend anything or anybody with no arms???

Then we might as well stop having police on the streets & get under 18 y/o's - a lot cheaper!!! - who can just call the military & run quick if they spot trouble, JMO
hi La Plu......we need the police....to stop woman like you......from standing on street corners.....professor rolling on the floor laughing wave wave lips laugh
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Jul 14, 2017 3:46 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
One2note: No !
There are plenty of special police officers , who are trained to combat any terror attack.
We don't want to be like the US , where police officers take the law into their own hands & shoot at random .


Another persons life means more to us in England than it does in America, we're less egotistical and better at self-control(by no coincidence we're also slimmer despite having broadly similar shops and diet). We're much more mature - Donald Trump is the Brexit for 7 year olds - and it's right to consider the difference in human raw material. Compare the conduct of British versus American troops in the middle east for example. Our culture isn't as self-important and obnoxious as America, other people are just as important as we are(or at least somewhere in the same ballpark).
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Jul 14, 2017 4:01 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
CreamyMint: Given recent attacks on the United Kingdom. Should all coppers bear arms?

Never seen a cop with Bear arms
What do the Bears say about it?conversing
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Jul 14, 2017 4:05 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Another persons life means more to us in England than it does in America, we're less egotistical and better at self-control(by no coincidence we're also slimmer despite having broadly similar shops and diet). We're much more mature - Donald Trump is the Brexit for 7 year olds - and it's right to consider the difference in human raw material. Compare the conduct of British versus American troops in the middle east for example. Our culture isn't as self-important and obnoxious as America, other people are just as important as we are(or at least somewhere in the same ballpark).


The average mental age in America is around 17, in Britain we're talking more the mid-20s. If our police were armed it would not be as dangerous as doing the same thing in a nation of children.
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Jul 14, 2017 4:11 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
we all should be allowed own at least 1 hand grenade and a tommy gun....laugh
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Jul 14, 2017 4:11 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
NO ... the Firearms squads are highly trained and as one member said to me years ago

"Any fool can fire a gun and most plods are in fact fools ... the Big Discipline involved lies in NOT shooting, once it's squeezed there's absolutely no return "

I didn't argue with him then and I'm not going to argue with him now, for the simple reason that tasers have been so much abused and I'd not be willing to put LETHAL weapons in the hands of those who continue to prove that they don't have the self discipline to NOT use them.
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Jul 14, 2017 4:25 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Oh yes conversing

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Jul 14, 2017 4:30 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
Lookin4missright: Oh yes



Sugar Spice
soooo that bear arms...emmm I did wonder.....??????..nice.
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Jul 14, 2017 4:39 AM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
I wonder if the cuffs and collars match her arms?...
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Jul 14, 2017 7:49 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
DaMooseLives: So seriously, you wish your constables to be "meter-maids?" I am a retired Officer of the Crown. I never drew arms, but it was available had the need arisen. To arm an officer is not to arm them to shoot, but rather, to arm them to defend. The BIGGEST thing is you have to choose your officers carefully.



I guess you're from a different era Moose and you have my respect.

An era when to be SELECTED for an officer's role was an indication of the high level of ethic and conduct that was expected from a candidate in that era. A time when far more failed than were ever accepted ?

Now, the police (here UK / USA and many other places) have let themselves down by their own misconduct so many times over so many decades that they no longer are regarded by the higher echelons of of our youth as a 'respectable' career choice ... so they keep on lowering the physical and educational criteria just to fill uniform and 'keep the numbers up'

It's plainly many are 'in the force' for quite the wrong reason ... ie related to the use of 'force' rather than the delivery of community 'service

If you were to read 'Into the Forest' written by former NZ police officer and later National MP Ross Meurant I suspect you might see how things changed!

Best regards
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Jul 14, 2017 9:07 PM CST Should all British police officers bear arms?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
Well, the last drama they had, the police were there in so many minutes and had shot the bad guys dead.

The last drama we had, the standoff lasted 12 hours or something, and didn't end at all well.

Their cops don't have guns, ours all do.
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