What is hunting for you? (866)
ladichatterlee: Now, why would you be laughing at me? You seem to take extreme offense to the fact that I don't share in your view that killing animals is okay, so I simply stated dont take it so personally, that I abhor ANYONE who would do such a thing.
What a strange statement from someone who admits to eating meat.
Right strip away all the rights and wrongs about hunting. The bottom line is we as humans will revert to the ways of what we call animals. Surival of the fittest. Hungry, see animal, kill, eat it. Because if you do not, you life will be inside of the gut of which ever animal devoured you. Dog eat Dog world we live in.
ladichatterlee: LOL.. You obviously don't know me very well, either.
Regardless, even though she may be happy most of the time, there is still no correlation between that happiness (the laughing emoticon) and what was said in the posts. It was clear it was meant as mockery. A lot of you seem to find it inappropriately funny that someone actually cares about the welfare of animals, and make fun of those who don't kill them, as though there's something wrong with having compassion for animals. Go figure.
Regardless, even though she may be happy most of the time, there is still no correlation between that happiness (the laughing emoticon) and what was said in the posts. It was clear it was meant as mockery. A lot of you seem to find it inappropriately funny that someone actually cares about the welfare of animals, and make fun of those who don't kill them, as though there's something wrong with having compassion for animals. Go figure.
Now you've got my curiosity up.So by using the laughing emoticon after my posts it's meant as mockery and how may I ask? Also explain to me show me how I was making fun of /or saying anything was funny about you or anyone else for that matter inregards to people who cares about animals in any of my posts in this thread.Show me those comments.Where are the words that I stated that caring about animals is a silly thing to do.
seekndestroy: well since you asked i get several satisfactory feelings... in no particular order:
1. satisfaction that my .300 Win Mag is paying off
2. satisfaction that i got the right ammo
3. satisfaction that i hit the target... the farther away it is the more satisfying... same for if its moving vs standing still
4. satisfaction that my $40 for hunting license and tag didnt go to waste
5. satisfaction that i get to use my gutting knife, rope, skinning knife, game cart, game bag, etc.
6. satisfaction that i get bragging rights
7. satisfaction that i get to take a pic next to my prize
8. satisfaction that enduring the weather is paying off
9. satisfaction that my hunting skills obviously worked
10. satisfaction that i picked the right spot to look for them
11. satisfaction that yall liberals are gonna be disgusted
12. satisfaction that i still have hunting priviledges
13. i could go on and on and on and on....as for killing people... no that is not right nor something i like doing......... but then again, liberals are not people... they are a disgrace to this planet and not members of the human race.... they are more like leaches that live off of whatever us non liberals work hard to produce !!!
1. satisfaction that my .300 Win Mag is paying off
2. satisfaction that i got the right ammo
3. satisfaction that i hit the target... the farther away it is the more satisfying... same for if its moving vs standing still
4. satisfaction that my $40 for hunting license and tag didnt go to waste
5. satisfaction that i get to use my gutting knife, rope, skinning knife, game cart, game bag, etc.
6. satisfaction that i get bragging rights
7. satisfaction that i get to take a pic next to my prize
8. satisfaction that enduring the weather is paying off
9. satisfaction that my hunting skills obviously worked
10. satisfaction that i picked the right spot to look for them
11. satisfaction that yall liberals are gonna be disgusted
12. satisfaction that i still have hunting priviledges
13. i could go on and on and on and on....as for killing people... no that is not right nor something i like doing......... but then again, liberals are not people... they are a disgrace to this planet and not members of the human race.... they are more like leaches that live off of whatever us non liberals work hard to produce !!!
Thanks for proving my point. You could have saved some energy by just stating that you enjoy killing things. And as far as your statement about liberals, screw you. I'm not a die-hard liberal, but they work every g.d. bit as hard as you do. Moreover, they're not bloodthirsty animals killers, either.
LaVerdad: Right strip away all the rights and wrongs about hunting. The bottom line is we as humans will revert to the ways of what we call animals. Surival of the fittest. Hungry, see animal, kill, eat it. Because if you do not, you life will be inside of the gut of which ever animal devoured you. Dog eat Dog world we live in.
So in the end does any of this really matter? No, it does not, because you would simply not have time to think about rights or wrongs. The Hunter can become the hunted, just like that (quicker than a bullet firing out of any gun), and visa versa.
bodleing: What a strange statement from someone who admits to eating meat.
I don't know why that is so strange. I don't have anything against eating meat, per se. I am against hunting, primarily for "sport." And I stated that there aren't many people who have to hunt in order to survive, so most people do it for "sport."
How many times do I have to explain that before it sinks in?
ladichatterlee: If you're in an economical crunch, then your hunting is justified. You even admit that you hunt because you want to, not because you need to. If your budget doesn't allow you to put meat on the table, then do what you feel you need to do.
I personally would have to be near starvation in order to kill an animal, myself, but that's me, and that's how much I care about animals. I care far less about lowering my standard of living than I do about the welfare of animals.
You, obviously, don't. Therein lies the difference between you and I.
Honestly, you cannot eat meat (little or a lot) and say what you have just posted, let alone, believe it. I personally would have to be near starvation in order to kill an animal, myself, but that's me, and that's how much I care about animals. I care far less about lowering my standard of living than I do about the welfare of animals.
You, obviously, don't. Therein lies the difference between you and I.
I also care about the welfare animals in general, as well. I do not condone abusive and cruelty or neglect to any animal what-so-ever in that respect, but like you, when or if it comes to survival or as you put it, starvation, guess what's for dinner.
ladichatterlee: Thanks for proving my point. You could have saved some energy by just stating that you enjoy killing things. And as far as your statement about liberals, screw you. I'm not a die-hard liberal, but they work every g.d. bit as hard as you do. Moreover, they're not bloodthirsty animals killers, either.
well the sure DO claim that they are productive members of society ...
..... and clearly get pissy when us REAL productive members point out how worthless they are !!!!!
bodleing: What a strange statement from someone who admits to eating meat.
It's amazes me to no end and like you I find it strange too that someone would admit to eating meat themselves and at the same time criticize someone who hunts for their meat.Where does that make them anymore less a killer then us hunters so to speak?
YouMeUs: Honestly, you cannot eat meat (little or a lot) and say what you have just posted, let alone, believe it.
I also care about the welfare animals in general, as well. I do not condone abusive and cruelty or neglect to any animal what-so-ever in that respect, but like you, when or if it comes to survival or as you put it, starvation, guess what's for dinner.
I also care about the welfare animals in general, as well. I do not condone abusive and cruelty or neglect to any animal what-so-ever in that respect, but like you, when or if it comes to survival or as you put it, starvation, guess what's for dinner.
Yes, I most certainly can. I believe very much in the death penalty, also, but I could never bring myself to throw the switch.
Survival is totally different from bragging about killing an animal. it's totally different than hanging trophy heads all over one's wall. If you need to kill meat for food, fine. If you have a freezer full of beef, pork, etc., from the grocery store, and you just happen to like to hunt, then I'm against that. I am not capable of killing an animal, myself. And i don't like what slaughterhouses do, and I may end up giving up meat altogether. But provoding meat on a large scale like that is different from arguing whether or not hunting is justified as a "sporting" event. I don't think it is. It's cruel, barbaric, and unnecessary. And people who brag about their kill, their trophies, and all the ammo and firepower they have are beyond reprehensible.
somechick: Now you've got my curiosity up.So by using the laughing emoticon after my posts it's meant as mockery and how may I ask? Also explain to me show me how I was making fun of /or saying anything was funny about you or anyone else for that matter inregards to people who cares about animals in any of my posts in this thread.Show me those comments.Where are the words that I stated that caring about animals is a silly thing to do.
Hmmm...how about the post that stated you only answer to two people and about my being judgmental? You included, I believe, three laughing emoticons in that post. I don't think those were used an an indicator of your happiness, were they? Within the context of the discussion, it seemed to me the use of those emoticons were to indicate that you somehow found what I had to say funny or amusing.
It didn't seem to indicate happiness on your part and if it was intended that way, it didn't seem to coincide with your words.
I don't understand how people can get pleasure out of killing something.....humans must be one of the few species to exhibit this characteristic....as well as cats of course.....maybe that's why they get on so well together...
ladichatterlee: I don't know why that is so strange. I don't have anything against eating meat, per se. I am against hunting, primarily for "sport." And I stated that there aren't many people who have to hunt in order to survive, so most people do it for "sport."
How many times do I have to explain that before it sinks in?
How many times do I have to explain that before it sinks in?
You say you're against people who hunt for sport.Does that mean you're against the ones who kill those cattle within the slaughter houses too? These cattle are alive as well.Sometimes they're put into pens that are so crowded that they can't even move.Next time I happen to be driving where the slaughter house is near me I'll be sure to take some film on how they're slaughtered and sent it to you.
somechick: It's amazes me to no end and like you I find it strange too that someone would admit to eating meat themselves and at the same time criticize someone who hunts for their meat.Where does that make them anymore less a killer then us hunters so to speak?
Because you happen to eat meat from wildlife that you kill doesn't mean you're hunting in order to survive. I'm opposed to the unnecessary hunting down and killing of animals. Are you allergic to beef or pork? Is there some reason you HAVE to hunt?
And there Is a difference between you and I in that I couldn't personally kill another living creature, myself. I just don't have it in me to do such a thing. Unless, lke I said, I was really starving then I'd do what I had to do.
somechick: It's amazes me to no end and like you I find it strange too that someone would admit to eating meat themselves and at the same time criticize someone who hunts for their meat.Where does that make them anymore less a killer then us hunters so to speak?
I Agree, so many people dont even have their Values sorted out, but still have aN Opinion....
Meat is Meat, if you eat Meat even fish, turkey, Chicken, it must all be Killed and Prepaired to eat
For those who dont have any better answer it is in the Bible, Man was given Dominion over all the animals of the Sea and Air, to use them,
The answeres to life are there, just too many have NOT MADE TIME to seek For the answers, something that dont make sence they will swear on
These Books were written so we didnt have to guess for answers, They were written and Make good sence.......
Anyway, I hunt and eat meat, and dont care what Dumb Joe Thinks
somechick: You say you're against people who hunt for sport.Does that mean you're against the ones who kill those cattle within the slaughter houses too? These cattle are alive as well.Sometimes they're put into pens that are so crowded that they can't even move.Next time I happen to be driving where the slaughter house is near me I'll be sure to take some film on how they're slaughtered and sent it to you.
She is very Consistent!I mean,Consistently Inconsistent!
seekndestroy: well the sure DO claim that they are productive members of society ... ..... and clearly get pissy when us REAL productive members point out how worthless they are !![/b]!!!
Ahh good sir..!!
I see that YOU TOO know your liberal tree-huggers..
I'm not very smart..
but I just think those seeking "assistance"..
have NO right to demand, claim, or stipulate
what the benafactor MIGHT WISH TO GIVE..
I AM NOT "lucky"..
I choose my path..
went to school, studied, etc..
choose a path would lead to something other
then my "at the moment self gratification"..
I EARNED ALL I HAVE..
and I owe NO one anything..
EVERYone has what they deserve..
and deserve what they have..
and to all...
if thy shoe will thee fit..
WEAR it..
CAUSE the MAJORITY feel/think/ believe,
and PAY tax's like me....
---SoldierByte---
ladichatterlee: Your story of life on the American frontier, and how you forged the streams and fought bears with your bear hands and stitched beaver-skin clothing with hair from an otter notwithstanding, you're still an animal killer.
No ma'am. I never made any of the claims you alluded to. Unlike you, I have simply stated facts. But you are right; I am still an animal killer. Just as you are still an un-educated hypocrite.
And yes, I know you've got thirteen degrees and are personally smarter than Einstein, Brubaker and Isaac Newton put together, but the fact remains that you don't know diddly squat about the natural world and the critters don't care how many letters you've got behind your name. I think maybe you should visit a slaughterhouse. Since you're too hypocritical to procure meat yourself, perhaps we'd be better off if you didn't disrespect animals that someone else has killed on your behalf by eating them.
You want to see deer in the wild? I'll make you a deal: For a nominal fee, I will take you and a few others of your choice on a weekend outing. I will leave my guns at home and we will not eat meat the entire time we are out. I will allow jeans and sneakers, but no hiking boots as they are too harmful to the environment. You'll also have to leave your perfume, deoderant and nail polish behind as these are not natural and have no place on an outing like this.
We will leave the evironmentally un-friendly sleeping bags at home and instead use wool blankets on beds of leaves and grass. I will teach you how to make fire without matches and show you a few edible wild plants. After that you'll be on your own unless you get into to trouble. I seriously doubt, despite your own claims, that you'll get close enough to feed the deer by hand (although there is a chance that, given your ineptitude and attitude, you will wind up feeding the bears).
FWIW, I am quite qualified to do this; I have both taken and taught desert, plains and mountain survival courses and have also worked as a guide for those who otherwise couldn't find their asses with both hands in the natural world (such as yourself). I am a naturalist who has indeed been in the position of having to hunt in order to survive and I have references if you'd care to contact them prior to booking my services.
You want to anthropomorphise all the poor defenseless little animals? Fine! Let me take you on a weekend outing and show you first hand just how they treat each other. Trust me, I'm far more humane in my methods than they are. But no, you and your kind are hypocrites who don't know or care the first thing about the natural world except for observing it casually from the safety of the modern world.
You wanna' know the truth? It is possible for man to live in the animal world without noticeably changing it. Wild animals cannot live with mankind without noticeably changing their own habits and behaviors.
Those who think otherwise are far more cruel in the long run than us stupid ol' hunters.
somechick: You say you're against people who hunt for sport.Does that mean you're against the ones who kill those cattle within the slaughter houses too? These cattle are alive as well.Sometimes they're put into pens that are so crowded that they can't even move.Next time I happen to be driving where the slaughter house is near me I'll be sure to take some film on how they're slaughtered and sent it to you.
I resent your implication that I'm ignorant. I know full well how they're slaughtered. I've stated before that I don't eat as much meat as I used to, and that I may stop altogether.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
ladichatterlee: I don't know why that is so strange. I don't have anything against eating meat, per se. I am against hunting, primarily for "sport." And I stated that there aren't many people who have to hunt in order to survive, so most people do it for "sport."
How many times do I have to explain that before it sinks in?
Better join NETTIE and become Vegan!How many times do I have to explain that before it sinks in?
You're spouting NONSENSE!
ladichatterlee: I resent your implication that I'm ignorant. I know full well how they're slaughtered. I've stated before that I don't eat as much meat as I used to, and that I may stop altogether.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
But you sure do love meat?Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
ladichatterlee: Hmmm...how about the post that stated you only answer to two people and about my being judgmental? You included, I believe, three laughing emoticons in that post. I don't think those were used an an indicator of your happiness, were they? Within the context of the discussion, it seemed to me the use of those emoticons were to indicate that you somehow found what I had to say funny or amusing.
It didn't seem to indicate happiness on your part and if it was intended that way, it didn't seem to coincide with your words.
It didn't seem to indicate happiness on your part and if it was intended that way, it didn't seem to coincide with your words.
You still haven't shown me where I actually posted in words that I found or was making fun of you or anyone else for that matter that caring about animals was a bad thing to do.Or found it funny.
I made that statement of there only being two people that I have to answer to in this world and it wasn't/not you.And yes you were passing judgement on others.I never knew laughing was a crime.
ladichatterlee: I resent your implication that I'm ignorant. I know full well how they're slaughtered. I've stated before that I don't eat as much meat as I used to, and that I may stop altogether.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
And then again you may not.
hat fence might become uncomfortable after a while.
Good Bye, all, I have better things to do that argue, with Stupid.....
this is an argue thread, and Good day!
Its almost Deer Season! I have to Shoot MY Gun, not argue
this is an argue thread, and Good day!
Its almost Deer Season! I have to Shoot MY Gun, not argue ladichatterlee: If they're not hunting for SURVIVAL, then they're hunting for sport!
Now you really are talking crap.
Whats wrong with hunting your own food?
Conrad73: But you sure do love meat?
No, in fact, i don't love it. Never have, really. I hardly ever eat it anymore. Whether or not I eat meat has nothing to do with the discussion. This is about hunting; this is not about the killing of domestic animals for food.
Once again, I'm not CAPABLE of killing an animal. I don't have that kind of barbarism in me. and for the record, I've tried various wildlife meat, and I don't like it. Beef and pork, if you want to compare the taste of meats, is much better, IMO.
Where do you get the idea that I "love" meat? I never said I did. Weird. Just weird.
HotrodLarrys: Good Bye, all, I have better things to do that argue, with Stupid.....
this is an argue thread, and Good day! Its almost Deer Season! I have to Shoot MY Gun, not argue
this is an argue thread, and Good day! Its almost Deer Season! I have to Shoot MY Gun, not argue
Agreed, this whole thread is now getting very petty, again, I can see it all going pearshaped, people getting vexed, offended etc etc. Watch out guys, you could be on another roller coaster of abusing each other verbally.
ladichatterlee: I resent your implication that I'm ignorant. I know full well how they're slaughtered. I've stated before that I don't eat as much meat as I used to, and that I may stop altogether.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
Still, domestic animals ARE raised for food.
That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that I PERSONALLY, could never kill an animal, domestic or otherwise, and that I don't see how anyone else could aim a gun at such a beautiful, majestic creature and watch as a bullet rips through its body, blood spurting out all over the place, and watch it lay there, gasping for its last breath, and, at the same time, be "proud" of what they just did. It is just unfathomable to me.
Oh lord help us.Where did I imply/say your were ignorant? I think you're you're just trying to bullying peolple into your way of thinking.
This coming from someone who has admitted to eating meat themselves.Now I'm laughing at you.
I don't hunt for sport.I don't hunt for sport. I don't hunt for sport.
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Seems to me you just enjoy killing things (and possibly, if you could get away with it, people, too).
well since you asked i get several satisfactory feelings... in no particular order:
1. satisfaction that my .300 Win Mag is paying off
2. satisfaction that i got the right ammo
3. satisfaction that i hit the target... the farther away it is the more satisfying... same for if its moving vs standing still
4. satisfaction that my $40 for hunting license and tag didnt go to waste
5. satisfaction that i get to use my gutting knife, rope, skinning knife, game cart, game bag, etc.
6. satisfaction that i get bragging rights
7. satisfaction that i get to take a pic next to my prize
8. satisfaction that enduring the weather is paying off
9. satisfaction that my hunting skills obviously worked
10. satisfaction that i picked the right spot to look for them
11. satisfaction that yall liberals are gonna be disgusted
12. satisfaction that i still have hunting priviledges
13. i could go on and on and on and on....
as for killing people... no that is not right nor something i like doing.....
.... but then again, liberals are not people... they are a disgrace to this planet and not members of the human race.... they are more like leaches that live off of whatever us non liberals work hard to produce !!!