I became a lawyer... kinda had aspirations that I could make some kind of difference... and I suppose I do in a small way..... the system is very frustrating however.... justice tends to be dispensed in a fairly selective way... and most judges don't really give a crap after a few years on the bench...
I would have like to have been a teacher.... and I might yet do it as a career if it is not too late.... enriching childrens minds.. very worthwhile job... my hat off to anyone who does it for a living
No problem Riya.. that is a very fair question... ya see when I was initially told I could see no wrong in him... but what happened to them was SCARILY like what happened to me.. he has a particular pattern a modus operendi if you like...
I will have to mail you don't want to publicise...
I wasn't influenced by them at all that is why I took it with a grain of salt in the beginning... it only began to ring through with me when history started to repeat itself.. I don't know whether this guy is aware of what he is doing or intends it.. but he sure is reckless as to other peoples feelings...
If I thought someone... say for example someone on these forums was messing people about I would be sorely tempted to warn those people.. I was involved with someone on this site recently who turned out to be a textbook messer... I was warned by 3 different people to beware... of course while I was blind to him I didn't take much notice.. but I remembered what was said .. and when the time was right it did eventually make sense and spared me alot of potential hurt.... I might not have appreciated it initially but on reflection I am grateful to those girls... there are others who have been affected in the same way , but I have not spoken to all of them directly... apparently he has done similar to about 5 girls(that we are aware of)... 3 besides me I believe he had a 'relationship' of sorts with.. this makes me feel that it is the right thing to tell whoever his next 'victim' is...
Hiya... was quite by chance that I came accross it... but it made my hair stand on end... so many familiar traits...
Is good for people to know these things I guess... cause we can all be Susceptible to a charmer... and then when we are treated badly.. we are left almost blaming ourselves...
I know!!!! I am not going to give up hope though... just gotta go for completely different kinda guys... maybe even one who we wouldn't normally consider... maybe give a guy a chance
Anything involving live music would be nice.. be it a classical concert, rock or trad... just ADORE music!!!
Second choice would be a nice meal.... although I would prefer to know the person a while first.. can be pretty awkward if you don't know the person very well...
Thanks Riya.... while the two individuals concerned are somewhat 'antisocial' I am not aware of any alcoholism, or suicide etc... I hope for their sakes that it is nothing as serious as that... I do know though....t whatever it is they have... it's very negative and potentially very damaging to the other person.. particularly if that person doesn't 'get out' soon enough..... I did in both cases thankfully... but if I had let myself be manipulated to the degree that they would have liked.. I would have been a mere shadow of myself...
Absolutely.. they are so clever though... soooo cute.. and subtle... the last guy in particular.. ingenious when you think about it... its not that they will actually SAY 'oh I am so trustworthy and nice etc.. etc... ' they will just construct this image of themselves which conforms to that... it is this perfect construction of this 'false image' which is the clue I think... but because it is so convincing you don't actually realise it was all fake until they start relaxing the facade.. this usually happens when they have realised that they have you on board... then they start to withdraw.. quite suddenly and dramatically... thats when you realise.. then you are in a state of utter confusion and bewilderment as to how someone (who was apparently sooo nice and genuine) could do a complete 360 and not even apparently even feel any emotion... bewidering... my most recent experience had me on a virtual rollercoaster.. I was a wreck... completely confused..
I have dated two people in the past who displayed a number of those traits... not all.. just alot of them... both turned out to be rotters...
After reading this the penny just dropped.... it has to be said... I blame myself as much as anyone though because I allowed myself to be sucked in!!!
My experience of these kinds of people that any 'sadness' they feel is directed at themselves primarily... and they convince themselves that they have done nothing wrong...
Like one guy... recent past.. when his ex partner's mother was dying of cancer and wouldn't take his two daughters for a weekend to let her grieve (and spare his little girls) he refused using some pathetic excuse that she had let him down in the past... what a git.. couldn't compute that it wasn't about HER it was about his little girls...
When he courted me he couldn't do enough to convince me what a nice guy he was.. how trustworthy he was.. how 'special' and wonderful he was etc.. etc..initially I mistrusted him but he was determined to suck me in and eventually I fell for it... it wasn't long before he started to withdraw.. started the little 'quips' etc.... my mum said she didn't recognise me as a person after a while... story to long to go into here
Yes now that I think of it the nicest boyfriends that I've had let the relationship evolve organically and it wasn't all charm and excessive attention at the start... the WORST boyfriends I've had felt it was their mission to 'convince' me that they were genuine... actively courted my trust.. and were charming to the extent of having walked out of a romantic novel.. when you think about it, it should send out warning signals because 'genuine' feelings, respect and admiration take time... in a healthy relationship that is....
what is a shame though is that it is the genuine person who is open and trusting that will be the most likely 'victim'
sad though ... happiness will most certainly allude these deluded people...
A person with these personality traits would most definitely need help... its obviously some kind of defence mechanism and will only lead to misery for everyone including that person...
Important to know these things though... I for one, having unwittlingly fell for it myself in the past.. will be extra vigilent
You are familiar with Psychology.. what is your take on the above.. ? internet nonsense or a real phenomena?
Seriously though I think traits in isolation are ok.. its where there is more that 4 or 5 that alarm bell start ringing....
The common thread running through them I think is self obsession, lack of empathy/compassion, and a desperate need to have the Ego massaged.. with guys like that it is never about the other person (although they will try to convince themselves and you that it is.... to ease their guilt)... it is alway only about THEMSELVES and getting their own way..
In one sense I feel a lot of pity for this kind of person because they are obviously f**cked up.. I wonder do they actually realise how awful they actually are? probably not... if their behaviour is deliberate though... scary !!!
Think we just have to be doubly cautious and not get sucked in particularly by flattery and charm and the like
I've been sucked in myself... they really are masters at manipulation and deception... thank god though I saw through it... still took me a while from the point of realisation though to actually do anything about it cause I really didn't want to believe it...
SO WHAT ARE EVERYONES PLANS FOR THE WEEKEND..