RE: Where R We come from?

That theory has been passed around for years. The apes part, not so much. Dig deeper.

Pharma and Vaccine Quackery

Peyote ritual with Pleiadians should never be underestimated! laugh


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Back to your daily vaccine quackery news.



Sneak peek from the link:

Q: What conclusions did you come to?

A: The decline of disease is due to improved living conditions.

Q: What conditions?

A: Cleaner water. Advanced sewage systems. Nutrition. Fresher food. A decrease in poverty. Germs may be everywhere, but when you are healthy, you don’t contract the diseases as easily.

Q: What did you feel when you completed your own investigation?

A: Despair. I realized I was working a sector based on a collection of lies.

Q: Are some vaccines more dangerous than others?

A: Yes. The DPT shot, for example. The MMR. But some lots of a vaccine are more dangerous than other lots of the same vaccine. As far as I’m concerned, all vaccines are dangerous.

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

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Unlearning!

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

I meant a need to get away from the home--like running away from it every weekend or all the time while the other partner is doing all the work. Of course there is the expectation to contribute to parenting, and a major problem in today's society, is that too many people have kids before they are ready. Just here in Sweden, the majority of the divorces happen when the kids are between 1-5 years old, so there is a major problem with the lack of understanding of mutual roles in a union.

Expect can mean many things. Like we expect our partners to do their best in a relationship, if we don't feel that way, then a serious talk is in order--then some unchanging or changing should happen if it brings harmony and a sense of respect and fairness. Ughh, this is kind of tricky, because I am generally speaking. There is of course the problem of when both partners think they are doing all the work, and then both partners accuse one another of not doing enough lol!

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

"Why does a woman spend ten years trying to change her husband and then complain, 'You're not the man I married!'" Barbra Streisand

rolling on the floor laughing uh oh

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

Awesome, isn't itapplause What's happening Graham!!!

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

I agree Sharon. My approach is, if we relate, then it's a relationship and there is really nothing to change or tweak. Why change what is, when it is happens to be working! I do believe that change is inevitable, and if both partners change in a way that brings new dimensions as well as expansion, then that is change I can believe in!



I do go to church once in a while to merely observe out of curiosity. I read books written by ministers and theologians to get a deeper sense of how they are interpreting their scriptures and so forth. I also went to church between the ages of 16-19, my ex was a Christian at the time. So I do have a very good understanding, and I am always curious about learning more about other faiths (usually end up shaking my head).

In any case, I know in my heart that I can never be with a religious person. It just doesn't work since it blocks off a dimension of my self-growth. If I can't talk spirituality in an open way with my partner, I just can't deal with that. If I am going to be met with fierce resistance while criticizing any religion, then I just can't deal with that.

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

Jeff, isn't this your 948594th thread about asking/expecting your partner to change?!?!?!laugh It's like you're demanding us to tell our partners to change or else!!!!! Change is the only constant?

Just giving you a hard time! cheers

Keywords that I remember in past conversations relating to change or else!

"You never"
"You always"
"You should"
"You better"
"Why can't you be normal"
"If you don't change"

How Well Should You Know Your Online Lover?

You're so wisewine It's HOT!

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

What do you think, Ccincy?

That would drive me nuts btw! Isn't that called nagging? laugh

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

thumbs up Everybody should have the liberty to be who they are, not what their partner "needs" them to be. Either change the way you perceive the person, or accept him or her as they are---as the relationship is. Generally speaking here.

If somebody is trying to change a person's opinion constantly on various topics and matters, that is not changing the person, but rather, controlling the person.

If it concerns self-growth, and if the help is welcomed eventually, and may it suit the relationship so that there is harmony, then this change should not be avoided.

How Well Should You Know Your Online Lover?

thumbs up Yep! It's like they use you, to fill a void, when it suits them.

How Well Should You Know Your Online Lover?

Offline, I think you can get a better idea with a better sense of that person that you have known for a long time. Of course, nothing is as unsure as a sure thing. I think it depends how much you really want to know the person--and some intuition helps. True though, you can't know the person since you are not the person, and that is when assumption can go bad! Knowing a person is ever expanding.

Online, I agree 100 percent.

How Well Should You Know Your Online Lover?

wine thumbs up So true! Great contribution langleygirl! We have to be true to ourselves (the Self), always! I should say that I held on a bit too long with this woman because she was so beautiful haha! Well, more info came eventually, and let's just say I realized this woman was not emotionally independent and stable--plus she was way too Christian for me--and I was too spiritually different for her. We had some interesting arguments over something that can't be defined objectively, like about the God concept.

How Well Should You Know Your Online Lover?

Interesting article on internet romance -

I was in a online relationship recently with a friend from elementary school. So we already knew each other, but we had not seen each other for maybe 15 years. We were planning to see each other with my next visit back home in California. She was always so private about so many things, but the more I got to know her, the more I understood she was not for me. The idea is that if you don't ask or talk about the tough questions, you won't know anything about the person---you'll just be fed what he or she wants you to hear--like only happy and positive things or things that may only reflect your interests. I found it very discouraging when this woman did not feel some need to talk/expand when she was feeling at her best.

Excerpt from the article:

"In both offline and online romantic relationships, understanding your partner's mind is complex and involves much more than merely reading faces or messages; it involves paying attention to many subtle cues. This is especially true in online communication, where there are fewer sources of information. Reading your partner's mind in online communication consists of reading both the lines and between the lines. The kinds of words chosen, the speed of the response, the length and frequency of messages are all cues to your partner's perception of the type and quality of the relationship. Thus, a fast response indicates great interest, whereas a slow response may suggest lack of enthusiasm."

"Online romantic relationships should complement, but not substitute for, offline relationships."

"The interesting question is what happens when lovers combine their online and offline relationships. In fact, the less information people have online makes the chances of a successful first face-to-face meeting very low (according to one survey, merely 10%), because the two people may not "click"."

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

Sounds sensible. I can relate in a spiritual sense. If one person is exploring, and his or her partner is not supportive of not spiritually changing with his or her partner, then well, it won't be a good thinglaugh

The spiritual connection is very important. I had a problem recently with a woman about this. She was set since her religion had "all the answers", yet, she was always moody. When ever I tried to talk about my explorations or metaphysical ideas, she didn't listen or said it was Satan's work (she thought the devil can find you while you meditate). She was set and unwilling to understand or roll with me. There was no relating, no relationship! Bye-bye!

RE: Can Distance Kill Love

Yes and no! There is no one-size-fits-all answer here.

RE: The Difference Between A Democrat And A Republican

"Ideology is only going to get in your way! Ideology limits, it is not your friend" cool

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

If it's self-growth/self-help, and if it serves both couples--then yes! Why not expand, change in a way that brings harmony---instead of disharmony. Again, the second you are not relating, there is no relationship. There is nothing to change, its time to move on.

Now if these proposed changes come with conditions, bye-bye.

RE: Is it reasonable to ask or expect a partner to change?

I think, I am! laugh

If you want a cat, then don't get a bird!

As long as a couple re-lates, then it's a relationshipsmitten What needs changing?

RE: No contact

Oh no, not another bad experience, missingLondon. Hang in there, you'll find what is right soon enough.

You are not a fool for trusting. We can only do our best.

RE: Gossip bout the person above you

Venusenvy keeps sending me pics of her feet...wink

RE: abduction, you could be the next one!

Sorry man, was just giving you a hard time.

Discuss...

"The memo that 'proves aliens landed at Roswell'... released online by the FBI" -

Perception, something to think about...

"The questions raised: in a common place environment at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context?"

The idea here, is that the article I published, speaks volumes about our society and culture.

Yes, it would be interesting to see how this experiment would have worked out on a lazy Sunday afternoon, but I am inclined to believe that there would not be any significant changes due to perception of the "norm". In other words, the false dream on our planet.

I've seen the same things happen in San Francisco, on the weekend. Somebody is playing some brilliant music, and rarely anybody stops to appreciate it. But hey, if there a car crash or fist fight going on the street, everybody makes time to see that!

Pharma and Vaccine Quackery

Now it is not such an unknown is it? It is just downplayed, and said to be worth the effort since polio was eradicated---or um was renamed.

"The ‘Unknown’ About Polio Vaccine: SV40 and Cancer" -

Perception, something to think about...

Yep, great point. I can understand if somebody is really in a rush and needs to be somewhere at an exact time while racing against the clock. There is simply no time.

On the other hand, I found it discouraging how all the parents forced their kids to move on, despite the kids showing incredible interest. Everybody has a gift to give to the world, but if these gifts don't fit into our little and limited boxes of beliefs as far as how one shouldrecognize beauty and art, then I think it stunts our culture. These kids are being taught, according to their parents, where not to look for something profound and beautiful.

Where ever I go, I always appreciate the nature or the scents or whatever there is too appreciate, with no limits and judging beliefs. Beauty is beauty, and stopping to appreciate it is living.
daisy Of course, if we have the timelaugh

Think about all the people who do not get a fair shake due to "appearing" different.

Perception, something to think about...

Taken from a friend who posted this on FB (Snopes confirms this btw):

Washington, DC Metro Station on a cold January morning in 2007. The man with a violin played six Bach pieces for about 45 minutes. During that time approximately 2 thousand people went through the station, most of them on their way to work. After 3 minutes a middle aged man noticed there was a musician playing. He slowed his pace and stopped for a few seconds and then hurried to meet his schedule.

4 minutes later:

The violinist received his first dollar: a woman threw the money in the hat and, without stopping, continued to walk.

6 minutes:

A young man leaned against the wall to listen to him, then looked at his watch and started to walk again.

10 minutes:

A 3-year old boy stopped but his mother tugged him along hurriedly. The kid stopped to look at the violinist again, but the mother pushed hard and the child continued to walk, turning his head all the time. This action was repeated by several other children. Every parent, without exception, forced their children to move on quickly.

45 minutes:

The musician played continuously. Only 6 people stopped and listened for a short while. About 20 gave money but continued to walk at their normal pace. The man collected a total of $32.

1 hour:

He finished playing and silence took over. No one noticed. No one applauded, nor was there any recognition.

No one knew this, but the violinist was Joshua Bell, one of the greatest musicians in the world. He played one of the most intricate pieces ever written, with a violin worth $3.5 million dollars. Two days before Joshua Bell sold out a theater in Boston where the seats averaged $100.

This is a true story. Joshua Bell playing incognito in the metro station was organized by the Washington Post as part of a social experiment about perception, taste and people's priorities. The questions raised: in a common place environment at an inappropriate hour, do we perceive beauty? Do we stop to appreciate it? Do we recognize talent in an unexpected context?

One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made.... How many other things are we missing?

What does this say or mean to you? Comments?

Pharma and Vaccine Quackery

I actually do want chaos! What comes after chaos?hmmm There is a natural process to everything, and the momentum is going the right way! Geometrical energy! We don't need everybody, just enough unified people in the thousands---it's far more powerful than the energy of billions of divided people.

And as we are witnessing right now, EVERYTHING is reflecting! Polarities clashing! Woo hoo!

In any case, I like this quote, "science promotes and thrives on open mindedness because the advancement of our understanding about the reality in which we exist depends on our willingness to consider new ideas. Scientific discovery requires new ways of thinking!"

In the health care field, I don't see this happening. The people must unite to change the legislation that is built into the laws--as far as the medical field is concerned.

And yes, the mirror only reflects :-) Who said chaos and dealing with all the negative things at once was bad? That's like saying there is nothing to learn from the "dark night of the soul".

Pharma and Vaccine Quackery

Nice disinfo attempt! You don't see the smear campaign involved?

Ad hominem attacks does not invalidate quackery pharma. Did you miss the morality pill pharma is trying to push? Just as scary as Scientology.




I see what you mean, but you have to be aware of the injustices out there. So in that process, awareness is spread about the problems. The next step is offering a solution, so that there is a model in place. I've mentioned some solutions here, but the idea of this thread, is to expose and get the information out there so people may decide for his or her self.

The cause is internal, never external. Everything reflects, you know that.

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