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RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

RE: what are you doing now

Ohhhhh wowowowowowowow!!!!!!!! I hope you can afford it Steve!!!! I have my eye on a Tenor Sax that I hope will be there when I am on my feet. So I do know the feeling.

RE: Any of you CS ladies know

As a Deaf Pearson, there is a service attached to my Cellular provider that translates my Text msg in to a Voice Mail for a recipient, at extra charge of Course.

So SEE you CAN hear a Text msg!!!!!!!!!

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

You are Right. Thanks for catching that. That is what I get for coming online after a long exam.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

I will look into NG Archives to read this. ThanksRohaan!

You raise good questions. Ones I too have wondered about as did my Parents b4 me. I some times think that back in the Hitchcock times, when he read the war of the Worlds over the air and the mass panic that resulted, caused important information like this to be suppressed.

It is very good to keep an open mind IMHO. My Mother said that she wondered what is on the Dark Side of the Moon and Why things were suppressed.

Also, remember the loss of communication for a few minutes? From what I understand, the Earth, Moon, Mars and If I am not mistaken, Saturn and Jupiter were lined up and on similar planitary tilt, 60 degree angle????, can't Remember. GalacticBodhi would probably know, Hope he sees this, ot Stressfree.

There have been interesting theories about that too.

Some have found it interesting that the signals coming from Mars stopped as if Someone shut them off.

I take all with a grain of salt but I DO think it is presumptous of us to feel we are the only Intelligent life in the Universe.


Night All, got some research copying/Study materials to do for Home Work. then going home Library closing soon and have Furbabies to walk when I get home.

RE: Are Dolphins Non-Human Persons?

Night All, got some research copying/Study materials to do for Home Work. then going home Library closing soon and have Furbabies to walk when I get home.

RE: Are Dolphins Non-Human Persons?

You are right, Venere. It is so good to see you too. I am fine and am back in school this Semester, some unexpected funding. Will see what next semester brings. Am considering changing my Major also.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

More interesting information

G. A. Krasinskya, E. V. Pitjevab, M. V. Vasilyevb and E. I. Yagudinab

Institute of Applied Astronomy, Russian Academy of Sciences, Kutuzov Quay 10, St. Petersburg, 191187, Russiaf1

b Institute of Applied Astronomy, Russian Academy of Sciences, Kutuzov Quay 10, St. Petersburg, 191187, Russia

Received 13 November 2001; revised 11 January 2002. Available online 2 July 2002.

Abstract
The total mass of the asteroid belt is estimated from an analysis of the motions of the major planets by processing high precision measurements of ranging to the landers Viking-1, Viking-2, and Pathfinder (1976–1997). Modeling of the perturbing accelerations of the major planets accounts for individual contributions of 300 minor planets; the total contribution of all remaining small asteroids is modeled as an acceleration caused by a solid ring in the ecliptic plane. Mass Mring of the ring and its radius R are considered as solve-for parameters. Masses of the 300 perturbing asteroids have been derived from their published radii based mainly on measured fluxes of radiation, making use of the corresponding densities. This set of asteroids is grouped into three classes in accordance with physical properties and then corrections to the mean density for each class are estimated in the process of treating the observations. In this way an improved system of masses of the perturbing asteroids has been derived.

The estimate Mring˜(5±1)×10-10M is obtained (M is the solar mass) whose value is about one mass of Ceres. For the mean radius of the ring we have R˜2.80 AU with 3% uncertainty. Then the total mass Mbelt of the main asteroid belt (including the 300 asteroids mentioned above) may be derived: Mbelt˜(18±2)×10-10M. The value Mbelt includes masses of the asteroids which are already discovered, and the total mass of a large number of small asteroids—most of which cannot be observed from the Earth. The second component Mring is the hidden mass in the asteroid belt as evaluated from its dynamical impact onto the motion of the major planets.

Two parameters of a theoretical distribution of the number of asteroids over their masses are evaluated by fitting to the improved set of masses of the 300 asteroids (assuming that there is no observational selection effect in this set). This distribution is extrapolated to the whole interval of asteroid masses and as a result the independent estimate Mbelt˜18×10-10M is obtained which is in excellent agreement with the dynamical finding given above.

These results make it possible to predict the total number of minor planets in any unit interval of absolute magnitude H. Such predictions are compared with the observed distribution; the comparison shows that at present only about 10% of the asteroids with absolute magnitude H<14 have been discovered (according to the derived distribution, about 130,000 such asteroids are expected to exist).

RE: Are Dolphins Non-Human Persons?

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

I hope you are right. It would be very nice to know.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

RE: Are Dolphins Non-Human Persons?

My Da used to say Animals are not the stupid ones, we are. Animals can understand us very well. However most of us are too stupid to understand them when they are telling us of the danger we are in until we smell the smoke and realize they were trying to tell us the house was on fire.

I tend to believe they are far more intelligent than we give them credit for. Many handicapped do not get accurate Intelligence Tests unless, their handicap is addressed as well as the Intelligence.I feel under this explaination it is the same with animals.

Let me explain, I am deaf. I lipread very well, yet there are things, formations and Sounds that look a like and can be missread.

If you give me a Intelligence Test with VERBAL cues/instructions as to a hearing person, my scores will be much lower, and very incorrect.

If you give me an Intelligence Test with VISUAL/Written cues/instructions, then my scores are very high and much more accurate.

RE: DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU

Sorry, the Cuties at the gates are not seeing you, either, only a light that says pass or not to pass.

The only ones seeing the scans are in a closed room away from the area of the scanner and they cannot see the person whose image they see. They see the scans and press the buttion telling the Cuties to either pass the person or pull them asside for a further search.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

You are welcome Steve. Don't know how much has or has not been proven since that class. However, all his lectures were always interesting.

RE: DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU

Yes, both types show a blurred naked human form sans hair but showing human features, looks very Ghostly. Wiki has examples of Full body Scanner pics.

This is why many Airports have the Viewers in another enclosed room far from the scanners themselves.

The operators of the scanners are not able to see the scans. The Scan reviewers are not able to see the persons scanned.

Also some offer the option of refusing a scann in favor of a oldfashioned body search with hand held scanner.

RE: Some Good News to Share

I recieved an email from my son who's in the Army this afternoon saying he's been really busy and that he's ok and staying out of trouble.He told me he would write to as often as he was able to.

I'm still trying to calm down and keep from crying I'm so happy.Now I'll also be able to rest alittle easier knowing he's ok.

I don't think I could've recieved a better gift then this one.[/quote] I am happy for you Anna.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

This was talked about by one of my Astrophysics Instructors. He told us that there is a theory in which the debris in the asteroid belt was actually a plannet the blew up.

This may have possibly caused any life that existed on Mars and the Moon to have been anhilated.
The Moon is included because it is theorized that it was not a Satellite to our planet BUT a Planet in it's own right that got knocked out of orbit in the explosion of the planet where now is the asteroid belt.

He also stated if any of this is true and it may be, (as some have been extrapolating the debris by Computer Models, to see if they could fit together forming a planet, it seems to look like it could have been), Then the Trillion Dollar question would be Did Homo Sapiens Sapiens originate here or there and escape to the Earth, possibly wiping out the original Indegious Peoples of this Planet?

It would possibly explain much of the 'lost technology' we no longer have...It does make sense, yet if it is true, and our Ancestors did come from there, but caused the demise of the home world. . .Then sadly we are doing no better here. . . .

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

RE: Palin- Limbaugh ....Perfect Match !

I wish these things came with Caption. They SHOULD accoerding to the Laws of 1996, but they don't.

Even the Movie Theaters refuse to turn it on B/C the Hearing people complain.

Perhaps if we all became more sensitive on the local levels then the Gov't would follow?

Yeah right. . .nice dream though

RE: Palin- Limbaugh ....Perfect Match !

I DO remember Bush II stumbling through Speech papers, ( which he never wrote). A teleprompter would have been far more effective fr him, MAYBE.

Seems to me I remember him using one of those too.

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

Con't

Other scientists have learned that planets around other stars often follow odd-shaped orbits, indicating their paths might have been disrupted by the gravity of a passing star. Adams and a colleague got to wondering whether some future passing star or star system might, in similar fashion, kick Earth into the cosmic hinterlands.

So he and Gregory Laughlin, of NASA's Ames Research Laboratory, simulated many possible encounters with passing stars over the next 3.5 billion years -- assuming Earth would support life at least that long. The odds of the planet being ejected from the solar system, they determined, are one-in-100,000.



"Life on Earth would actually continue longer if Earth is sent out of the solar system than if it stays."




"These aren't real good odds," Adams points out, "but they're greater than the odds of winning the lottery, so they're worth considering."

A report on the work will be published in an upcoming issue of the journal Icarus.

Adams figures if Earth is sent off into some cold cosmic corner, the oceans would freeze solid after about a million years. But some forms of life, supported by hydrothermal vents or other internal energy sources, might continue for up to 30 billion years, he estimates.

"Life on Earth would actually continue longer if Earth is sent out of the solar system than if it stays," he said.

Or, we might just dry up and die

Before Earth's oceans ever have a chance to freeze or fry, they might have already dried up and evaporated into space, said James Kasting, a Penn State professor of meteorology and geosciences. Kasting estimates his version of the end is a mere 1 billion years away.

"The sun is getting brighter with time and that affects the Earth's climate," Kasting said. "Eventually temperatures will become high enough so that the oceans evaporate."

And, Kasting said, a cataclysmic finale may come even sooner. As Earth becomes a global desert, carbon dioxide levels are expected to drop. At a certain level, which he and his colleagues say might be achieved in half a billion years, there would not be enough carbon dioxide to support photosynthesis, and most plants would die.

Remaining plants would not be sufficient to support a biosphere, Kasting contends. So while the entire planet might incinerated in a few billion years, or cast off into a deep freeze, it's possible that life on Earth is already in the sunset years.

"If we calculated correctly, Earth has been habitable for 4.5 billion years and only has a half-billion years left," Kasting said.


This is from Space.com

RE: why does the SUN not burn out??

Y'all might want to read this:


Freeze, Fry or Dry: How Long Has the Earth Got?
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior ScienceWriter
posted: 09:45 am ET
25 February 2000



When a bunch of leading scientists got together last week to discuss the latest in big thinking, there was no shortage of doomsday predictions. In particular, Earth's fate was painted in three shades of grim.

Sometime in the next few billion years, according to new studies presented at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the third rock from the sun will either freeze or fry. Unless things simply dry up much sooner.

The expanding furnace

While Earth's fate is not entirely sealed, predictions of the death of the sun are widely accepted.



The life-giving, aging star we orbit is using up its fuel supply and will collapse within 7 billion years. Before that, though, there will be an agonizing period of repeated swelling, as the sun grows into a red giant. How giant?

"Earth will end up in the sun, vaporizing and blending its material with that of the sun," said Iowa State University's Lee Anne Willson. "That part of the sun then blows away into space, so one might say Earth is cremated and the ashes are scattered into interstellar space."

Willson and her colleague George Bowen studied other red giants, medium-sized stars like our sun that are near death, and used their findings to calculate the fate of Earth.




Artist's conception of the view of a hypothetical planet around a distant red giant star.



As the sun burns its core of hydrogen, gravity will force a collapse. When compacted, the sun will heat up and burn the small amount of hydrogen that remains in a shell wrapped around the star's core. This will force the sun to expand into a red giant. Eventually, the core will heat up enough to burn stored helium and the sun will fluctuate in size before collapsing into a white dwarf.

"Earth will get scorched as part of the process the sun will go through as it transforms from being a red giant into a white dwarf," Willson said.

Out from the frying pan and into the frost

There are two possible paths to salvation, though both involve a frigid end.

"If the sun loses mass before it gets too big, then Earth moves into a larger orbit and escapes," Willson told SPACE.com. "The sun would need to lose 20 percent of its mass earlier in its evolution, and this is not what we expect to happen."

Fred Adams, a University of Michigan physicist, has for a few years been modeling the fate of the entire universe. He said his work agrees with Willson's.

"If Earth stays in its present orbit, its fate is to be fried," Adams said in a telephone interview. "That is the most likely fate."

Meanwhile, Adams has modeled a second possible method of escape.

A less bad scenario

Con't

RE: Do you believe in true love?

RE: What do you like to win ?

RE: Do you date out of your race?

Even Shorts Or A Kilt!!!!

Seriously, You are 100% right. There is nothing wrong with it.

RE: Do you date out of your race?

RE: Do you date out of your race?

Why bother then?

I would Date AND Marry a guy from another ethnic Group, we are all of the same race. In fact, I have found Guys from other Cultures to often be more open and accepting of those of us with handicaps and infertility issues in comparison to the Caucasians.

I am glad I am of very mixed background . . .Also, B4 you go pointing the finger at my mixed background for my handicaps, no they are NOT genetic, except for the Dyslexia but I was not born Deaf.

RE: What type of environment would You prefer to live in?

exactly.

RE: What type of environment would You prefer to live in?

Way, Way out, like I grew up. I hate City Life, ugh, shudder

RE: How many family members do you have

In His part of the World, all live under the same roof.