Derek Chauvin...
...has been found guilty on all counts.Sentencing to follow at a later date.
Tonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales, UK
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You possibly won't understand the realities because like me, you're on the internet barking about the actualities.
Not so much fuss these days about the coloured policeman who shot a white Australian unarmed woman, Justine Diamond maybe. Lets hear your take on this atrocity...
Malcontent and malice.
At the end have any one saw his eyes ?
A frightened wild animal.
This office placed his hands in his pockets most comfortable and killed George Floyd .
Could you go back and watch that premeditated murder and let it sink in ?
These killings are a tragedy for everyone, including the perpetrators. The perpetrators ruin their own lives, and for what?
Derek Chauvin may not have killed George Floyd simply because he was black, but perhaps believing he could kill him with impunity because he was black may have been a factor, or because he would have been perceived as inherently more dangerous because he was black, for example.
We need to examine the minutiae of each incident to establish how they are linked and how they are not. Only with understanding and acknowledgemt may we create change.
The '...but what about...?' Trumpian technique of deflection does not lead to solutions, just antagonism.
We need to actively listen to each other first and foremost.
While the cop ended up ruining his future, that was his choice. At least he is still alive, unlike his victim. He took away ALL that Floyd had. Floyd & his family deserve justice. The rest of the police should be given notice, that this type of rouge behavior will not be tolerated.
It is appropriate that the sentencing be firm & fair, and serve to show that such rouge behavior will not be tolerated. Since Floyd's death, cops have killed on average 3 people per day in the USA. Some of that was justified. Too much of it was not. There needs to be change towards a less unrestrained killing machine. Cops need to be held more accountable for their actions and more psychologically evaluated before being hired.
Rumour has it that states which have the death penalty have a higher incidence of murder than the states which don't. It appears to act less as a deterrent than a message from the state that homicide can be justified, or normalised
And how was Chauvin deterred by the law when he publicly murdered George Floyd? Like noone has ever been sentenced for murder in the US before and this is a precedent?
With respect to Chauvin's life, what difference does it make whether he gets a 20 year, or 40 year sentence? Either way it may, or may not be a whole life tariff given his age. Even if he survives 20 years, 65 years old and turfed out on the street in the US?
We have 72 people with a whole life tariff in the whole of the UK and that's a contentious ethical issue for us. The average life sentence in the UK is 15-20 years. If someone like Chauvin got a minimum of 20-25 years we'd consider that a hefty sentence.
I think the US 'toughness' with respect to sentencing hides a multitude of sins. One of them is that you seem to live in a far less caring society and another is that you seem to distance yourselves from your own culpability in that.
It's also a choice made in the context of an environment.
Everyone plays a part in society and everyone has both choice and limitations. We all bear some responsibilty when it comes to racial bias and cruelty if we don't examine our unconcious actions.
A 40 year sentence just allows us to think we've solved the problem and to forget about it.
Somewhere between minimum and maximum means we have to work a little harder to make sure it doesn't keep happening.
I have been hearing a lot about...police coming straight out of university and going into the police force...but as we all know by now...that the education system is marxist run and has been for decades...so if we are gong to be talking about modern policing being a problem...then we must first look at the education system and how corrupted it is
courts only see money some as here in malta justice does not see ur rights hey see their pockets
minister in malta was release and they caught him in corruption why because he had money and the money he had was from the people taxes so judges lawyers and police work together cause if they made real justice they be out of work its just a circle with no edge
Every defendant is entitled to due process; trial by public opinion and the media is not the same as evaluating all the available evidence.
Capital Punishment Undeniably prevents Recidivism.
The Best case for capital punishment is Extreme cases such as prolific killers like Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacey -
Not as a punishment or deterrent, but to prevent them from Ever killing anyone Else.
The ideal test would be to relax the executions and to see if the rate goes up or down and then put them back again and see whether it goes up or down. But, AGAIN we aren't talking about executions in this case.
We are talking about how long the jail sentence should be. That is very different than execution or not, as I covered in a previous comment.
George Floyd might be dead today but it wouldn't be from a knee on his neck. People complained about Chauvin in the past doing the same thing to them as he did with Mr. Floyd.
I am truly sick to my stomach that Chauvin got away with his horrific actions all these years.
And guess who is to blame........the thin blue line....people who covered up for him.
This seems reasonable, - Adding another Life Sentence would provide NO deterrent, wouldn't prevent Recidivism and is kinda Silly, if one thinks 'bout it.
Not to the Criminal - to the families of the Victims.
The time from sentencing to execution may take Decades - The delays put families on an emotional roller coaster & may deny them closure for more'n 1/2 their lives.
Better to lock the criminal up & allow loved ones of the victims to move forward.
A bizarre extreme example -
A California murderer had spent So much time on Death Row that he'd become an aged, blind cardiac invalid.
His lawyer argued that California couldn't execute his client because the Death Chamber wasn't handicap accessible & forcing the criminal to require assistance into the chamber would be Degrading.
I b'lieve the request for a stay was denied & the Euthanasia ... er, Execution was carried out.
Presumably, assisting the criminal Into the chamber wouldn't be appreciably More Degrading than assisting him Out of the chamber.
Jac is an call em as she see type Gal... Want an honest option seek silk n satin....
Jac & I are fine..I'm not in the business of being fluffy myself.
I'm not in the business of being fluffy myself.
The original police report of the George Floyd incident;
Just getting some hot chick on chick action startin' ...
Annddd here comes Jim with some stupid Police Report thing.
He wonders Why he's not invited to parties ...
it ranks as the 17th most dangerous state.
And probably about #17 state for number of guns per capita.
There's a clue in there somewhere, but I just can't quite put my finger on it...